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The Tribune's View: Zimmerman, Standing his ground
The Columbia Daily Tribune ^ | April 16, 2012 | Henry J. Waters III, Editor and Publisher Emeritus

Posted on 04/16/2012 12:33:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: thethirddegree
Zimmerman sues the pants off Sharpton and the other race baiters and collects enough money

Good luck with that.

Fat Albert has a nasty history of not paying judgments against him.

41 posted on 04/16/2012 2:18:36 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: madison10

By not getting to the point of needing a jury.
The case can be dismissed by showing that there is no evidence of “mens rea” (to wit: guilty mind), and to the contrary there is evidence of justified self defense (injuries consistent with being a victim of assault); if there is nothing which could be construed as evidence of the charges, there is no point in convening a jury to evaluate that non-existent evidence.

Remember: it’s “innocent until proven guilty”. If there’s nothing which anyone could construe as proof of guilt, he’s deemed innocent.

A competent lawyer should be able to pull this off (assuming Z _is_ in fact innocent) notwithstanding the “stand your ground” law.


42 posted on 04/16/2012 2:35:26 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: In Maryland

“Have the toxicology reports come out yet?”

It would be interesting to see this info, but if the “pro-Zimmerman” narrative is correct, no drug-induced aggression was needed. Adrenaline and landing a heavy sucker punch to the nose provide enough edge to win most fights. The text message Martin had received, “I didn’t know you swung on no bus driver,” indicates prior experience with slugging authority figures he didn’t like. Is there any info on that incident out there? Was the driver hit in the face? (Apologies that this is off topic, but the linked editorial is too mendacious for comment).


43 posted on 04/16/2012 3:01:13 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Henry, your account of th Zimmerman shooting sounds like you got the script from NBC. No witnesses. I heard there was one or possibly two. One said they saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman pounding away. The audio being portrayed as Trayvon screaming is weak at best. You sound just like the Leftists who jumped to a LYNCHMOB conclusion in hopes to score political points painting Zimmerman as a white racist out to kill the poor inocent black child.


44 posted on 04/16/2012 3:04:52 PM PDT by spawn44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m honestly confused here. Why, if the the video and photo evidence clearly doesn’t match with the police reports (no blood from either of them or grass stains on zimmerman’s clithing, no wounds or even swelling on Zimmerman’s head or face, etc.) why are we so readily leaping to his defense? Is it just because the libs, Sharpton, Jackson, et all took the other side, or is there actual logical honesty here? Why are we following their lead in being so certain of what happened before a trial?


45 posted on 04/16/2012 3:26:09 PM PDT by Chops
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To: Chops

First of all, who is this “we” you speak of? You got here exactly 10 days ago. Secondly, you need to keep up: The “video and photo evidence” was enhanced and does show wounds and other things consistent with Mr. Zimmerman’s account of what happened.


46 posted on 04/16/2012 3:32:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another smelly turd of an article from the Lynch Mob Media.


47 posted on 04/16/2012 4:12:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem I have is that even the enhanced video is ambiguious at best, showing what could be something on his head, and only really supports presupposed conclusions on both sides. And, then there’s the nose, and like said earlier, no blood evidence. It’s amazingly cloudy, which is keeping me from jumping on the “I support you George” wagon.


48 posted on 04/16/2012 4:13:16 PM PDT by Chops
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To: Chops

You also have to claim that the Sanford police officer at the scene and the Sanford Fire Dept. fireman who treated Zimmerman at the scene lied about him bleeding from the nose and the back of the head.


49 posted on 04/16/2012 4:22:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In addition, the released, and subsequently pulled, police report noted Z’s injuries on his face and the back of his head, along with grass stains on the back of his clothes consistent with him being on his back on the grass.

That original police report is available elsewhere on the Internet.

50 posted on 04/16/2012 4:39:12 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Meet the New Boss

If I was Zimmerman’s attorney I think I would demand that a life size cut-out of Martin be placed in a chair at the prosecution table or standing in the court room in view of the jury. My argument to the judge for this would be because of the vast amount of publicity that showed pictures of Martin as a 12 year old kid. I would argue that this meme prejudices my client’s ability to get a fair trial and that to offset this meme and the impression that all jurors most likely have is to allow them to see Martin in the court room daily, just as they will see Zimmerman daily.


51 posted on 04/16/2012 4:47:59 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Martin is dead, and no eye witnesses saw the encounter.

Huge lie, there was at least one eye witness and probably more.

52 posted on 04/16/2012 4:56:40 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Chops

Trayvon Martin’s killer showed signs of injury: neighbors
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2872944/posts


53 posted on 04/16/2012 4:59:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: CT Hillbilly
When he approached Zim with his hand in his waist band that would have gotten him shot in a black neighborhood. Zim mentions he had his hand in his waist reaching for something on the call. I almost shot a knucklehead that way. The only thing that saved him was I could not locate my magazine for my rifle.
54 posted on 04/16/2012 5:12:51 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Pollster1

“Proof” does not figgure in this case. The is a case of legal politically inspired lynching.The strong message that is to be sent to Whites is that if attacked by a Black and or a group of Blacks, should you successfully defend yourself, the law will come after you.


55 posted on 04/16/2012 5:44:00 PM PDT by sport
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To: Digger
You can't be surprised when a nation becomes corrupted from the Prez down to the janitor.

I'm not the slightest bit surprised. I agree with Ann Barnhardt...every member of Congress and every member of the current administration is a piece of sh*t.

56 posted on 04/16/2012 5:46:24 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: usnavy_cop_retired

>>If I was Zimmerman’s attorney I think I would demand that a life size cut-out of Martin be placed in a chair at the prosecution table<<

It was a stroke of luck (or genius) that Z’s attorney is about the same height as Trayvon, making Z look very short standing at the defense table.


57 posted on 04/16/2012 7:08:29 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Did you notice it’s in backroom?

Nope, did not notice!

58 posted on 04/16/2012 8:13:58 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: who knows what evil?

“Everyone in this country should feel shame looking at this picture...every one of you.”

I’m not following your comment. Why should “...every one of you” feel shame?


59 posted on 04/16/2012 9:00:53 PM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject at hand.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Evidence of what really happened is scant. Martin is dead, and no eye witnesses saw the encounter. A 911 recording casts doubt on Zimmerman's account, but the Florida law will make it hard to get a conviction.

Because they're the GOOBERMINT, and inconvenient laws shouldn't keep them from persecuting/prosecuting you, unless you can PROVE you're innocent. If something even casts doubt on your account, that should be enough for a conviction.

I thought leftists were all about the civil rights?

60 posted on 04/17/2012 5:28:45 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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