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Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Brown Deer

So Valerie Newman born 1915 played the office junior in 1963 aged 48? And was dead when she appeared in the Charge of the Light Brigade in 1968?


521 posted on 08/09/2012 2:58:21 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: ABrit; Greenperson

Rachael Newman January 30, 2004

Rachael Newman, 25, of Syracuse, died Friday at home. A life-resident of the Syracuse area. She is survived by two sons; Alexander Newman and Daniel Hanley; her mother, Valerie Newman; her father, Daniel Irving and two brothers, Josh and Brandon Irving.

The Post-Standard (Syracuse, NY)
February 3, 2004

Rachael M. Newman
Birth Date: 26 December 1978
Social Security Number: 102-66-4533
Death Date: 30 January 2004


522 posted on 08/09/2012 3:23:21 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ABrit

You are very confused.


523 posted on 08/09/2012 3:25:50 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Greenperson

this should be corrected on IMDB sometime in the next couple of weeks.


524 posted on 08/09/2012 3:40:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Any right thinking person would be.


525 posted on 08/09/2012 3:47:29 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: Brown Deer

Oh Dear, what mistake did they make?


526 posted on 08/09/2012 3:48:59 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: Brown Deer

“Valerie Elizabeth Newman married Charles Gerald Wood on February 24, 1954 in Gloucestershire and they had two children. She appeared in all three of those listed films.”

Oh, I see, another Valerie altogether? I just need a picture of her in the Suspense TV program, and her date of birth?


527 posted on 08/09/2012 4:08:06 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: Brown Deer

OK. Strike Valerie Newman Syracuse. Can you answer the question, “Why did an errand girl named Jo Ann Newman get to write Malcolm X’s obituary in the New Amsterdam News?”. Much obliged.


528 posted on 08/09/2012 4:19:13 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: Brown Deer

529 posted on 08/09/2012 4:19:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Brown Deer

I think “Trying to confuse” and “Trying to find data” are more likely.


530 posted on 08/09/2012 4:27:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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OK. Strike Valerie Newman Syracuse. Can you answer the question, “Why did an errand girl named Jo Ann Newman get to write Malcolm X’s obituary in the New Amsterdam News?”. Much obliged.

I vote for "Why does someone who hasn't posted one comment since 2004 jump into this thread and the archives thread, post utter nonsense, and mine for info?" Bought someone's unused name or sleeper?

531 posted on 08/09/2012 4:30:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ABrit
I just need a picture of her in the Suspense TV program, and her date of birth?

Here's their address, telephone number and e-mail address. Maybe they can accomodate you?
532 posted on 08/09/2012 4:34:08 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Greenperson; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; ABrit
I want to point out a couple of things to Greenperson.

Martha tells us in her primary post that the October 28 date is celebration of his "conception". Now we all know that fundamental Moslem's don't celebrate their birth; but some sects and many African Moslem's celebrate their conception.

How do they know? Says Fred. Beat's me--they got an appointment date with the stork. However an October conception date would fit a birth date in the summer from Mid July to Mid August.

It also fits with a late October celebration conducted in the early days by zero which was "sort of like a birthday but not his birthday"; which morphed into a sort of Haloween event, celebrating some personal event for zero. "[J]ust as there are posts out there about the many scrubbed references to Queen’s Medical as the birth place."

Birth Place for who? References where? Scrubbed from where and when?

533 posted on 08/09/2012 4:43:58 PM PDT by David
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To: little jeremiah

Nah...no one is trying to confuse nobody, you just haven’t been following the story, Jo Ann Newman changed her name to Valerie after she wrote the tribute, she’s really a boy, he/she became zero’s guardian after he was born in Hawaii and they lived in an apartment just around the corner from a famous civil-rights activist in New York, you know that because his address was listed in a directory (I assume, Martha says so, I never saw it) when he was a toddler, it must have said ; little Bari M Shabazz lives here...and when he grew up he joined the Navy or summat and ended up at Quatico and then he moved to Hawaii, probably still in the service, and he had a car accident, in which no one was injured because there was no report of any injury, and when he died in 1994, they buried Barrington Smith along with Bari.
Something like that..and what a stupid waste of time it all is. Welcome to the world of Martha Trowbridge, who started this garbage and now you have to register to read it.


534 posted on 08/09/2012 4:44:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ah, now that you put it all together it makes perfect sense.

Or would, if I took some LSD.


535 posted on 08/09/2012 4:55:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: David

Martha got her date from the SS application of Barrington Smith who clearly showed the name change.

The remainder came from her over-fertile imagination. She had to make the date on the application fit, just as she had to write an entire piece about how the facial features and the hair of Stanley Ann Dunham had been tampered with, BECAUSE SHE KNEW THE BOY DIDN’T LOOK LIKE SAD.

And now the reply cometh; but Martha never said the BOY was Stanley Ann Dunham. That’s right, she didn’t.

But what she did do, was present the woman WHO WAS STANLEY ANN DUNHAM standing beside zero near the bridge with Harvard in the background AS BEING JO ANN NEWMAN.

And that’s HOW THAT piece of misinformation got started. Stanley Ann Dunham was really Jo Ann Newman. I can hear the violin music from here, that’s how loud you are being played.

Stanley Ann Dunham never existed, that’s what this is all about, her parents never gave her a boy’s name, Madelyn and Stanley Armour were never married, and SAD is a CREATION. There’s never been a genuine photograph of her, they are all shopped, throughout her entire life!
BELIEVE IT OR NOT. THAT’S WHAT THE WHINGING POM IS TELLING YOU.


536 posted on 08/09/2012 5:01:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: David

“Martha tells us in her primary post that the October 28 date is celebration of his “conception”.”

Presumably she didn’t know Jamaican Bari Shabazz was born on that date?


537 posted on 08/09/2012 5:04:54 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: David

I can’t really speak to details of Martha’s posts, the original or subsequent ones, because we can’t refresh our memories, as she’s locked her musings from public view. I’m not paying to see her creative writing. I did read them when they were first posted, but I don’t remember details.

That’s an interesting observation about zero’s “Halloween” celebrations. What would be Martha’s point, if she believes Bari Shabazz is the person in question and he was born in 1959? (Sorry, I don’t remember the month and day.)

Queen’s Medical was the hospital that was originally announced as Barry’s birth place. Not Kapiolani. The stories on the Web that originally stated Queen’s were scrubbed off the Web, or they were modified to “correct” the original “error”. Scrubbing done as soon as people began to look for the hospital of his birth and pointed out the competing stories. Here’re a few links: http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/07/07/wnd-hi-hospital-will-not-confirm-obamas-birth-assertion/ http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/07/10/obama-birth-part-2-kapiolani-letter-disappears-questions-remain/


538 posted on 08/09/2012 5:07:06 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

Calm down Fred. Why did the office junior Jo Ann Newman write an Obituary for Malcolm X?


539 posted on 08/09/2012 5:09:51 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: Brown Deer

Jerome! That’s funny. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.


540 posted on 08/09/2012 5:11:19 PM PDT by Greenperson
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