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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Lady Lucky

If another 4 years of Obama is what it takes to return the party to conservatism, so be it. Or if Obama can destroy this nation in 8 years, it was already rotten beyond saving. In any case, people who surrender do not need to be defeated. Voting for a pro-abort, pro-gay who brought socialized medicine to his state — that’s not a compromise, that’s a surrender to liberalism.
***Excellent points. This whole overblown fear that Obama’s gonna destroy this nation is just a tactic to get conservatives to surrender. It is cowardice.


3,241 posted on 08/14/2012 9:02:56 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Graybeard58
For a real hoot, look up her posting history and you’ll see what I mean.

Did you miss the gist of my post? It wasn't about Murrymom.
3,242 posted on 08/14/2012 9:05:03 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: GlockThe Vote

They don’t care! ... These people... all be damned to their delusional notion .... They are nuts ... by this mob.
***You’re fulla bowlsheet. The OWNER of this site sees it the same way. But that doesn’t stop you from coming onto this site and doing the kissup/kickdown bootlicker routine, does it? You’re the one who’s nuts. It would be like going over to a forum started by 0bama’s pastor Wright and trying to separate them from their odd beliefs. Of course, the OWNER of that website openly proclaims such odd beliefs. So why would one do such a thing, try to separate them from their odd beliefs? It’s obviously to troll.


3,243 posted on 08/14/2012 9:11:49 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
To quote my personal hero when faced with a “heckler”...

And when the heckler becomes the heckled? Well, you reveal how that is handled. Are you really 79 or just trying to get pity by claiming you are? Your posts really are all over the road and usually in the creek or deep in a cornfield. But at least one thing has remained consistent: Everyone here you disagree with is a fool because you say so.
3,244 posted on 08/14/2012 9:12:59 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; sf4dubya; CWSNTEXAS; Jim Robinson
In noting the animosity of the self-proclaimed Jews on this thread against Christianity in their defense of mormonism, I have to bring to their attention the following:

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http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/ldsagree.html

"The wrongful baptism of Jewish dead, which disparages the memory of a deceased person is a brazen act which will obscure the historical record for future generations. It has been bitterly opposed by many Jews for a number of years. Others say they will never stop being Jews, simply because there is a paper saying they had been baptized, that the act of posthumous baptism is unimportant and should be ignored. We think this to be a narrow, parochial, and shallow view. We will continue opposing this wrongful act which assimilates our dead to the point where it will not be possible to know who was Jewish in their lifetimes.

A protest drive initiated by Jewish genealogists escalated it to a nationally publicized issue that was followed by public outcry. American Jewish leaders considered it an insult and a major setback for interfaith relations. They initiated discussions with the Mormon Church that culminated in a voluntary 1995 agreement by the Church to remove the inappropriate names. Activists continue to monitor Mormon baptismal lists, seeking removal of inappropriate entries.

Has the church done anything to uphold its decade-old agreement with the Jewish community? The bad news is that the Mormons did (and still do) hijack Jewish genocide victims and other Jewish dead. Moreover, when a Jew is baptized, the door is open for all of his deceased ancestors to be baptized as well. Regrettably, their baptismal records place before the public a revisionist view that these deceased Jews were Mormons, a position they would have rejected in life.

A commentator on this topic said that anti-Semites who desecrate Jewish cemeteries want to destroy even the memory of Jews by breaking their tombstones and other symbols whereby we honor and remember them. He concluded that baptism of the Jewish dead is just a more sophisticated form of breaking tombstones.

A blogger wrote: "I don't buy the argument that it's done for selfless reasons. It's not selflessness, it's arrogance. And especially in light of the Mormon Church's agreement in 1995 to stop baptizing Holocaust victims, it's even more reprehensible for them to continue the practice. If a church can't be trusted to keep its word in a matter such as this, then where is its moral standing?"

We want to say this to all well-meaning Christians: We don't want to be saved, redeemed, forgiven, reincarnated, resurrected, or enraptured. We just want to be left alone. After 2000 years -- is it so much to ask?

In 1995 the LDS Church and representatives of the Jewish community signed the agreement described at the beginning of this article. Jews have objected to the continuing Mormon practice of wrongful baptism of the Jewish dead, especially in the case of Holocaust victims, claiming that the practice mirrored the forced baptism of Jews in the middle ages.

A decade later this wrongful practice, which demonstrates a disrespect for Jews and Jewish feelings, has not ended. Because of public objections, the Church did remove names of thousands of Jewish holocaust victims from the IGI. However, they continue the baptismal ritual that hijacks Jewish forebears. Names of thousands of baptized Jews have not yet been expunged from within the growing Church records while new victims continue to be added. Removed names often reappear at a later date. Their practice of turning dead Jews into Mormons is a brazen act that may obscure the historical record for future generations. One hundred years from now, will anyone know who you were?"

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I suppose this will be overlooked in the name of Mitt.

3,245 posted on 08/14/2012 9:13:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Elsie

Actually, you make me sick to my stomach.


3,246 posted on 08/14/2012 9:15:37 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: GlockThe Vote

So tell me, other than voting for R&R, what is your plan with better than a .00000000000000001% chance of working to get rid of Obama?
***So tell me, what is your plan to get a conservative into the white house as soon as possible? Unseating a sitting republican in 2016?


3,247 posted on 08/14/2012 9:16:08 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

Again - who was the perfect conservative again in the race?


3,248 posted on 08/14/2012 9:17:43 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: CAluvdubya; Elsie
Time for you to change your tagline.....

laughing bear

3,249 posted on 08/14/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
If the men who fought WWII had given up this easily, my grandmother would have never been liberated from Auschwitz and I wouldn’t even be a zygote.

That is a strange thing for an 80 year old man to say.

You have posted about your grandmother being in Auschwitz and losing her entire family, a couple of times over the years here at FR, but this thread, (post 293 on Saturday) is the first time that you ever mentioned that your father was also in Auschwitz and that he was a child.

In fact, in the post about your father, "My father was only a kid when he was sent to Auschwitz.", you never mention your grandmother, you have left us confused, do you mind clearing it up?

3,250 posted on 08/14/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: greyfoxx39
I suppose this will be overlooked in the name of Mitt.

Please. Mittens could violently disembowel Paul Ryan live, on stage, during the height of the Republican convention -- bathing himself in the resulting blood and viscera -- and his zuvembie apologists would all solemnly intone, as one:

"WELLLLLLLLL... AT... LEAST... HE'S... NOT... OBAMAAAAAAAAAA..."

;)

3,251 posted on 08/14/2012 9:20:17 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: greyfoxx39; Jeff Head
Jeff is no saint, just a nice guy, which you are not.

Move on? No problem. Pretty much never come here anyway. You guys have proven Bill O'Reilly correct when he called this a hate site. I'm embarrassed to be affiliated with this ugliness.

I sure hope the last 6 or 7 of you can afford to pay the expensive bills around here after you've driven all the decent posters away. At least until Obama shuts it down, if you all have your way and he's reelected!

3,252 posted on 08/14/2012 9:23:29 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
...and his zuvembie apologists would all solemnly intone...

Had forgotten about Thriller on TV. Scary show, that.
3,253 posted on 08/14/2012 9:25:34 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Had forgotten about Thriller on TV. Scary show, that.

As you and I have demonstrably proven, just now: some of us hereabouts really, truly ARE old. ;)

3,254 posted on 08/14/2012 9:27:34 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: CAluvdubya; Jim Robinson
Move on? No problem. Pretty much never come here anyway. You guys have proven Bill O'Reilly correct when he called this a hate site. I'm embarrassed to be affiliated with this ugliness.

I sure hope the last 6 or 7 of you can afford to pay the expensive bills around here after you've driven all the decent posters away. At least until Obama shuts it down, if you all have your way and he's reelected!

Have you informed Jim Robinson about your opinion of FR? Here, I'll do it for you.

3,255 posted on 08/14/2012 9:30:14 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: CAluvdubya
I'm embarrassed to be affiliated with this ugliness.

There's an app for that, you know.

3,256 posted on 08/14/2012 9:34:24 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: greyfoxx39

Good point......last one out pay the bill and shut off the light


3,257 posted on 08/14/2012 9:36:00 AM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: greyfoxx39

I think it’s the sweet sunshine of her smile I’m going to miss most, ultimately. ;)


3,258 posted on 08/14/2012 9:38:01 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

c.u.t.e.


3,259 posted on 08/14/2012 9:39:16 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Resettozero

But it’s a launch point for me to note that not all FReepers know by heart, or can remember, the personal histories and past posts of all the other FReepers. The frequent admonition of others posters to me has boiled down to “Go search my posts”
***That brings up my idealogy litmus matrix proposal.

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I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: babygene I don’t think he’s all that interested.
To: MHGinTN It doesn’t matter what a FReeper thinks. It’s just a list that they tell us what they think. That way we can tell who we’re dealing with.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: Jim Robinson Hah hah, that’s great. I signed up 2 months after you and I’m a newbie. Back then no one even said, “Welcome to FR”. But yeah, I do think that there are tons of RINOs. To be more accurate, the term would be CINOs.
I’ve been pushing for an idealogical litmus matrix here on FR, not to get rid of RINOs but to expose them.
THE GOP DOESN’T WANT US- SO WHAT’S NEXT?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=762#762
***It simply takes too long. Look at this thread alone. I see evidence of RINOism in some of the FReepers on this thread. It takes 700 posts to drill down. We need the matrix posted and available so that we don’t have to drill down on every FReeping thread. They’re wasting our time. Deliberately.

Agreed to a large degree. Perhaps a way to rate members by other members???
762 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:43:23 PM by roamer_1
130 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:39:20 PM by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
49 posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 7:29:27 PM by Kevmo ( It’s all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies] 48 posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:25:08 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)

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3,260 posted on 08/14/2012 9:39:39 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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