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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Tenacious 1; Resettozero; Elsie

Elsie’s post is obviously irony and sarcasm.

Maybe he should have used a /s tag

The Jews returned to their own land, and the Muslims have been trying to destroy them and kick them out ever since.

“What have those poor, suffering Muslims ever done to them?”

Like he believes that...see paragraph above the quote.


3,351 posted on 08/14/2012 12:44:01 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: greyfoxx39

I think the reason that no one has ever called me a name, or ever said anything unpleasant to me here, is because I won “Freeper of the Year” in my first season at FR, and ever since then, I have only felt the glow of warmth and love towards me, in every post.

It’s too bad about you common folk, that have people disagree with your points of view, and have to sometimes endure unpleasant remarks, and suggestions.


3,352 posted on 08/14/2012 12:44:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Resettozero
Look! A pretty fawn! I'll just ride over here and catch up with you guys later.

Heck, I got tired of playing with the poor, dumb thing days ago. Wait up. [::rides alongside::]

3,353 posted on 08/14/2012 12:45:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: cripplecreek

Romney is a good man, Ryan is a good man.

These are our candidates for President and Vice President and the enemy is:

Obama/Biden, now these are the abortionist and Homosexualist.

Got it, You just have to know who your enemy is and not shoot the good guys.


3,354 posted on 08/14/2012 12:45:08 PM PDT by Chief901 (Obama Septic Tank Campaign Ads, full of sh!t and smell like crap)
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To: Chief901

I’m just laughing at you toadies who just do as you’re told.

Got it.

LOL


3,355 posted on 08/14/2012 12:49:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Elsie

I love to sit in the balcony and watch a fake Christian, who’s a man with a woman’s name, call people he doesn’t know “damnable heretics”. Delicious.


3,356 posted on 08/14/2012 12:50:27 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: eleb

Intolerate and bigated. The Good Lord knows just how he will judge you.
***The Good Lord called false teachers in his day, Vipers and Sons of the Devil. Would you characterize that as intolerant and bigoted?

Moving forward in anticipation of your non-answer, it is interesting to note the expectations put on a follower of Christ that are not put onto Christ Himself. That is a bit of a pharisaical attitude.


3,357 posted on 08/14/2012 12:50:39 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: eleb

Their sin is pride. Perhaps there is some scripture that reads that self-centered, judgmental pride is Christ-like behavior. But there is so much that forbids it. Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals encourages pride-filled attacks and endless ridicule, but it is dedicated to Satan. Hello?

Although I have challenged the bigoted many times, they have never proven their foundations to be true. They just turn the argument around and continue to attack others.

Pride marches on, as does Satan.


3,358 posted on 08/14/2012 12:51:27 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Are Pride-filled, judgmental christians qualified to be Christians?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Freeper of the year? Isn’t it funny, that we shouldn’t disagree with JeffH, but it is almost a badge of courage for some to come on this thread and badmouth JR to his FACE?


3,359 posted on 08/14/2012 12:51:34 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: ansel12
It’s too bad about you common folk, that have people disagree with your points of view, and have to sometimes endure unpleasant remarks, and suggestions.

Yep....there's nothing like living off a reputation from fourteen years ago.

I can think of several FReepers who have earned the FOTY recently....but I won't name them, 'cause that would doom their chances. ;0)

3,360 posted on 08/14/2012 12:52:06 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Deb

watch a fake Christian,
***That’s a relatively serious accusation on the spiritual plane. Provide evidence.


3,361 posted on 08/14/2012 12:53:07 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Resettozero; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I think you may have posted this to the incorrect person. Doesn't ring quite right.

Ya think? Alrighty, I'll let you be the judge if I have mischaracterized LiberalKentSleeplessInSeattle .....

In direct response, over the last three days, I've been blubbered at; sniveled at; mewled at; whinnied at; called "evil"; called "liberal"; called "traitor"; called "Obama-lover"... [I'm calling the Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuuulance] speaking of 'juice box' ... geesh!

3,362 posted on 08/14/2012 12:53:44 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks for biting.


3,363 posted on 08/14/2012 12:55:36 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: Loud Mime

I have challenged the bigoted

***The Good Lord called false teachers in his day, Vipers and Sons of the Devil. Would you characterize that as intolerant and bigoted? Was JESUS being Christ-like when He did it?

Moving forward in anticipation of your non-answer, it is interesting to note the expectations put on a follower of Christ that are not put onto Christ Himself. That is a bit of a pharisaical attitude.


3,364 posted on 08/14/2012 12:56:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

When you deny Torah as the word of G-d by slamming Jews for what they believe, then you start to put cracks in your own Christian faith, so be careful.

THE RAMBAM’S THIRTEEN PRINCIPLES
OF JEWISH FAITH

1. I believe with perfect faith that G-d is the Creator and Ruler of all things. He alone has made, does make, and will make all things.

2. I believe with perfect faith that G-d is One. There is no unity that is in any way like His. He alone is our G-d He was, He is, and He will be.

3. I believe with perfect faith that G-d does not have a body. physical concepts do not apply to Him. There is nothing whatsoever that resembles Him at all.

4. I believe with perfect faith that G-d is first and last.

5. I believe with perfect faith that it is only proper to pray to G-d. One may not pray to anyone or anything else.

6. I believe with perfect faith that all the words of the prophets are true.

7. I believe with perfect faith that the prophecy of Moses is absolutely true. He was the chief of all prophets, both before and after Him.

8. I believe with perfect faith that the entire Torah that we now have is that which was given to Moses.

9. I believe with perfect faith that this Torah will not be changed, and that there will never be another given by G-d.

10. I believe with perfect faith that G-d knows all of man’s deeds and thoughts. It is thus written (Psalm 33:15), “He has molded every heart together, He understands what each one does.”

11. I believe with perfect faith that G-d rewards those who keep His commandments, and punishes those who transgress Him.

12. I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah. How long it takes, I will await His coming every day.

13. I believe with perfect faith that the dead will be brought back to life when G-d wills it to happen.


3,365 posted on 08/14/2012 12:57:23 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: eleb
You are a sick in the head inconsiderate individual. Intolerate and bigated.

You know; you may be right!

But; to atone for some of the sins I've committed against you ABO folks; have a little miracle.

3,366 posted on 08/14/2012 12:57:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chief901
"Romney is a good man, Ryan is a good man.

These are our candidates for President and Vice President and the enemy is:

Obama/Biden, now these are the abortionist and Homosexualist.

Got it, You just have to know who your enemy is and not shoot the good guys".

Looks like someone else agrees with you.

Gov. Sarah Palin appeared with Shannon Bream Aug. 12, 2012 link to video

3,367 posted on 08/14/2012 12:58:08 PM PDT by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: Kevmo

If there’s scarcely a country left to have a GOP in, it seems fantastic to me to worry about the condition of the GOP there.


3,368 posted on 08/14/2012 12:58:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: cripplecreek

I’m just laughing at you toadies who just do as you’re told.

I don’t know who the “Toadies” are, but I vote and do as I believe, without any interference or influence from you, or anybody else.

If Obama/Biden win another four years, you won’t be laughing, Got it...........


3,369 posted on 08/14/2012 12:58:29 PM PDT by Chief901 (Obama Septic Tank Campaign Ads, full of sh!t and smell like crap)
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To: Deb

Your first response is not evidence in the slightest. How many more nonresponsive posts until your accusation becomes a matter of bearing false witness to a brother in Christ?


3,370 posted on 08/14/2012 12:58:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
*yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn*

This "LiberalKent" spittling of yours.

Evidence. Point to it.

(Given your now-twice-demonstrated inability to read without severely spraining a lip in the process, I don't hold out any great hopes that you'll genuinely be able to do so, God wot... but: surprise me, juice box. Surprise me.)

3,371 posted on 08/14/2012 12:59:18 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
My sympathies, if you somehow felt singled out.
3,372 posted on 08/14/2012 1:01:49 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: sf4dubya
Your accusation that there is more than one person sharing this account is ludicrous

Never accused you of that. Asked if you and your husband (you mentioned your husband on that same post) were tag-teaming on this thread. That could be with two, three, four or more screen-names. Just asked.

You obviously had no idea what I was saying to Jim, but jumped to some random conclusion like anyone who butts into a conversation between two people and then proceeds to spew nonsense.

My responses made at least as much sense as do yours. And it's not my fault that you posted your private email to Jim Robinson here on this thread on this Free Republic forum.

Accusations...let's see: I remember accusing you of making things up and for playing the "I'm Jewish" card to the max here on FR. The part where I said I'm not wishing to know more about you from your profile page or your posting history, well, that wasn't an accusation; just a plain-to-see fact.

Your reference to my spewing nonsense presents us with a situation since your spittle is on everyone's LCD screen too. Wanna do a DNA test?"
3,373 posted on 08/14/2012 1:01:49 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: HiTech RedNeck; lady_luck

If there’s scarcely a country left to have a GOP in, it seems fantastic to me to worry about the condition of the GOP there.
***If another 4 years of Obama is what it takes to return the party to conservatism, so be it. Or if Obama can destroy this nation in 8 years, it was already rotten beyond saving. In any case, people who surrender do not need to be defeated. Voting for a pro-abort, pro-gay who brought socialized medicine to his state — that’s not a compromise, that’s a surrender to liberalism.

hat tip to Lady Luck


3,374 posted on 08/14/2012 1:03:06 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: ansel12
. . . amazed at how someone who believes one thing, can read such a damning revelation of facts, which reverses that belief, and then simply ignore it, and then switch to ‘so what, let’s move on to another argument then’.

It is because of the alternative. . .

3,375 posted on 08/14/2012 1:05:20 PM PDT by cricket (http://voteron2012.com/)
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To: Servant of the Cross
This "LiberalKent" spittling of yours.

Evidence. Point to it.

YOU: [.......]

"Nothing whatsoever," then. Oh. The shock. My heart.

Don't you have any friends your own age to play with, for pity's sake?

Pffffffftt.

3,376 posted on 08/14/2012 1:05:20 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Beat Obama!!


3,377 posted on 08/14/2012 1:07:51 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: sf4dubya

When you deny Torah as the word of G-d by slamming Jews for what they believe, then you start to put cracks in your own Christian faith, so be careful.
***You can change what you believe, based upon verifiable facts presented to you. You’re just ignoring those facts so that you can cling to your belief.

Also, I’ve noticed you change the subject, deflect a lot. This is yet another tactic of avoidance. Eventually, conversations with people who act like you become these weird, nonsensical sets of questions that never get addressed and tons of obfuscation. That is your loss, because if you do not accept Jesus as Lord & Savior, as God Himself, your soul may be forfeit. It is not like you can claim you were never told about Him.


3,378 posted on 08/14/2012 1:08:16 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’m sorry, but Mr. Resettozero was called away on an unscheduled snipe hunt and has asked me to inform you he cannot research anymore profiles or FReepers’ history of postings until after the November elections. If there is an emergency. please call 911.


3,379 posted on 08/14/2012 1:08:36 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Kevmo

How do you convert your if into a whether?

How about if Obama really does fizzle it, just like half of cold fusion contraptions fizzle?


3,380 posted on 08/14/2012 1:09:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Heck, I got tired of playing with the poor, dumb thing days ago.

Are you channeling Godzilla?

3,381 posted on 08/14/2012 1:10:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chief901

So is Charlie Brown.


3,382 posted on 08/14/2012 1:10:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Are you channeling Godzilla?

Oh, let's do leave Joy Behar out of this. ;)

3,383 posted on 08/14/2012 1:11:36 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Deb
I love to sit in the balcony ...


3,384 posted on 08/14/2012 1:12:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime
Although I have challenged the bigoted many times, they have never proven their foundations to be true.

Yeah...

That is a problem all right.



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

3,385 posted on 08/14/2012 1:14:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Deb
Thanks for biting.

Did you say that to Guzman?

3,386 posted on 08/14/2012 1:15:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo

First, you have to prove the teachings to be false. Having a spiritual lynch mob backing up the charges is invalid.

How do you do that? Do the teachings follow God’s Law or do they take the path of an ACLU attorney in claiming that God’s law is living and breathing? We have Ten Commandments, yet some cults have followers believing that forgiveness is easily obtained just by kissing up to the boss, thereby reducing the commandments into suggestions.

That, to me, is false teaching. Its forgiveness for tithing; spiritual prostitution on behalf of the cult leaders.

Pharisaical? NOPE. I do not claim that my behavior will be without judgment and that I have a ticket to the greatest spiritual rewards. I take the Commandments seriously; not like a liberal. I have to actually earn my spiritual rewards.


3,387 posted on 08/14/2012 1:15:54 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Are Pride-filled, judgmental christians qualified to be Christians?)
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To: sf4dubya
When you deny Torah as the word of G-d by slamming Jews for what they believe...

HMMmm...

I thought they got 'slammed' for what they DIDN'T believe??


John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

(niv)

3,388 posted on 08/14/2012 1:17:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How do you convert your if into a whether?
***Try to make some sense

How about if Obama really does fizzle it, just like half of cold fusion contraptions fizzle?
***If only half of the cold fusion contraptions fizzled, I’d be happy as a clam. Of course, this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Back to:
How about if Obama really does fizzle it...
Then the GOP has no need of principled conservatives and they have proven it by winning the election without us. The GOP loves UNprincipled conservatives. Do you happen to know what website you’re posting on right now? Is it for principled conservatives or UNprincipled conservatives? Is it a GOP website or a conservative website?


3,389 posted on 08/14/2012 1:18:05 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Elsie

Charlie Brown is a good guy, and he can’t beat Obama/Biden, heck he is not running..........


3,390 posted on 08/14/2012 1:18:05 PM PDT by Chief901 (Obama Septic Tank Campaign Ads, full of sh!t and smell like crap)
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To: MEG33

like a mule.


3,391 posted on 08/14/2012 1:18:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Kevmo

How about worrying about refinements once you survive.


3,392 posted on 08/14/2012 1:20:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Loud Mime

Your post makes no sense. It does not answer the very simple questions:

The Good Lord called false teachers in his day, Vipers and Sons of the Devil. Would you characterize that as intolerant and bigoted? Was JESUS being Christ-like when He did it?


3,393 posted on 08/14/2012 1:20:53 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
Do you happen to know what website you’re posting on right now? Is it for principled conservatives or UNprincipled conservatives? Is it a GOP website or a conservative website?

Given some of the noisier, less sensible responses, to date...

... I'm beginning to wonder if the first Slick Willie didn't know what he was talking about, after all. ;)

3,394 posted on 08/14/2012 1:23:04 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: greyfoxx39; Jeff Head
Just what "year" was that? Was there a competition? Who voted? I've been here since '01 and I didn't get a vote. Was he elected by the mormon "cabal"?

- It was roughly 2002-2003 in that range.
- Everyone on FR got to vote - don't remember how many did. The used to have polls back then too which you probably remember. Those were fun - be nice if they brought them back.
- If I remember correctly Jeff received the award for showing up in the Klamath Falls area and helping with the water issue going on at the time. Quite a group of Freepers showed up - if could remember the names I'd ping them to give their recollections. I'm happy if I can just get all my kids names right.
- I'm sure there are lots of threads about it from back then, but I'm not good enough at search to find them in a reasonable amount of time.
- Pinging this to you Jeff because I mentioned you. Btw, some of your other posts are inspiring me to start do some model building.

3,395 posted on 08/14/2012 1:23:04 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: Elsie
They still get their share in the world to come, just like anyone who is righteous and adheres to Noahide law.

And who is actually ON this short list?

THE 7 LAWS

1 Acknowledge that there is only one G-d who is Infinite and Supreme above all things. Do not replace that Supreme Being with finite idols, be it yourself, or other beings. This command includes such acts as prayer, study and meditation.

2 Respect the Creator. As frustrated and angry as you may be, do not vent it by cursing your Maker.

3 Respect human life. Every human being is an entire world. To save a life is to save that entire world. To destroy a life is to destroy an entire world. To help others live is a corollary of this principle.

4 Respect the institution of marriage. Marriage is a most Divine act. The marriage of a man and a woman is a reflection of the oneness of G-d and His creation. Disloyalty in marriage is an assault on that oneness.

5 Respect the rights and property of others. Be honest in all your business dealings. By relying on G-d rather than on our own conniving, we express our trust in Him as the Provider of Life.

6 Respect G-d's creatures. At first, Man was forbidden to consume meat. After the Great Flood, he was permitted - but with a warning: Do not cause unnecessary suffering to any creature.

7 Maintain justice. Justice is G-d's business, but we are given the charge to lay down necessary laws and enforce them whenever we can. When we right the wrongs of society, we are acting as partners in the act of sustaining the creation.

3,396 posted on 08/14/2012 1:23:46 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: Loud Mime

First, you have to prove the teachings to be false. Having a spiritual lynch mob backing up the charges is invalid.
***I see you are like so many other freepers, wandering onto this thread without realizing that there have been freepers exposing this false teaching for several years now. If you characterize that as a “spiritual lynch mob” here on this thread, why don’t you do it on the dozens of other mormonism threads? Oh, I know, because now there’s a mormon running for the GOP slot, so now you, as a good republican, are forced to defend mormonism.


3,397 posted on 08/14/2012 1:23:46 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Loud Mime

How do you do that? Do the teachings follow God’s Law or do they take the path of an ACLU attorney in claiming that God’s law is living and breathing? We have Ten Commandments, yet some cults have followers believing that forgiveness is easily obtained just by kissing up to the boss, thereby reducing the commandments into suggestions.
***And your point is? You’re way off into the weeds here.

That, to me, is false teaching.
***So if you confront false teaching, are you being Christ-like?

Its forgiveness for tithing; spiritual prostitution on behalf of the cult leaders.
***Again, you’re in the weeds here. Try to make some sense.

Pharisaical? NOPE.
***And yet, like a pharisee, you don’t answer the question and move onto some other issue which isn’t even part of the debate here.

I do not claim that my behavior will be without judgment and that I have a ticket to the greatest spiritual rewards. I take the Commandments seriously; not like a liberal. I have to actually earn my spiritual rewards.
***Off into the weeds.


3,398 posted on 08/14/2012 1:27:13 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How about worrying about refinements once you survive.

***Now you’re back to the overblown fears, the cowardice. We see this every time there’s a CINO running for pres. I’m not voting for a destable librul just because you are afraid.


3,399 posted on 08/14/2012 1:30:02 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

KICK THE MARXIST OUT!


3,400 posted on 08/14/2012 1:32:43 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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