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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the link! I’m not quite at the Grandpa state yet, but the younger ones of my 7 kids would really enjoy working on models with me. My 2nd youngest has many medical issues, his left side doesn’t work too well - will always live with us because of mental development issues, so anything that gets him to use his left hand and also get a sense of accomplishment is great.


3,521 posted on 08/14/2012 4:52:06 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: ansel12

The chances are zero,
***I didn’t post anything about chances. You need to read up on how God works with very little resources. Read Gideon — he had 10,000 men to take on an army of 300,000 and God told him he still had too many, knock it down to 300 so that everyone knew God did it.

The pre civil war origins of the republican party does not reflect anything useful for today
***Hogwash. The fiscon Whigs threw the socons under the bus, and the republicans started their own meek little party under such circumstances. How many Whigs are there today?


3,522 posted on 08/14/2012 4:58:56 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson

“Have you informed Jim Robinson about your opinion of FR? Here, I’ll do it for you.”


No he won’t. Doesn’t have to guts. Tried suicide by cop a couple of times. Can’t seem to get zotted. So I’ll try again.

It is freakin ridiculous how about 20 people on FR kiss Jim’s butt, about how he is the owner, and his opinion trumps everyone elses.

What a crock!

Jim started FR and is allowing it to morph into a hate site. Too bad.

Who was that loser from Little Green Footballs that let his site be destroyed? Well, look in the mirror. That could be the future of FR.

The treatment of people like Jeff Head by Jimmy’s inner sanctum on this thread is disgusting. Disgusting.


3,523 posted on 08/14/2012 5:02:15 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: HiTech RedNeck; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson; Norm Lenhart; Finny; ArrogantBustard; RitaOK; ...
Only the perfect??? Nixon (twice) was hardly perfect. Ford, ditto. Bush the Elder (twice), ditto. Dole, ditto. Bush the Younger (twice), ditto, although he was better than anyone other than Reagan. McCain, another spineless idiot, megadittoes. I really haven't been overly choosy in the past. Romney rips it and I will never again vote for a murderous moral barbarian as a GOP POTUS nominee as I did when voting for Ford. If the GOP wants my vote in the future, it will have to earn it the old-fashioned way by nominating candidates who are not simply yearning to satisfy their greed at the expense of the babies and marriage and American sovereignty and Western Civilization. I have absolutely had it with the worthless, spineless GOP elitists who are every bit as much enemies of the American [eop;e and our way of life as any Demonrat.

None of the foregoing subjected the Roman Catholic Church (and by necessary implication each and every other pro-life church) to specific persecution as have BOTH Mittler and Obozo through their respective "health insurance" schemes. Romney's is worse on the persecution question. Mittler required the Roman Catholic Church to provide abortion coverage and sex change surgical coverage and other abominations in policies covering 90-year old nursing home confined, Alzheimer's suffering nuns and priests and Obozo did not. Small difference: minimal advantage to Obozo not that I would be caught alive or dead voting for either of them.

Mittler supports "gay" everything just like Obozo. Both are competing for fudgepackers' best supporter. Nothing to choose there.

Mittler supports turning innocent children over to lavender queens as though they were qualified to be adoptive substitute "parents." So does Obozo.

BOTH Obozo and Mittler are gun grabbers. Both are cpmmotted to farming ordinary folks on taxes to subsidize their megawealthy pals and supporters. Both favor what amounts to a certain path to socialized medicine. Both yearn for cap 'n' trade. Etc., Etc., Etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

BTW, I was talking about latae sententiae excommunication and not damnation. With all due respect, you are no more qualified to instruct me as to what "other serious Catholics say" than I am to instruct you as to what serious Reformed theologians may say or as to what they may think the Bible says. I avoid discussions in which I am called upon to aggravate my fellow FReepers over their respective religious commitments and beliefs. I thank them to return the favor. What suffices for me is that FReepers be people committed consistently to the principles which characterize FR's mission as to matters political. That is not a matter of handicapping political races between utterly acceptable baby-murderers, faggot coddlers, gun grabbers, tax hikers, Demonrats of the open or disguised variety such as this year's two major party nominees, chronically hysterical environmental whackos, etc. It is not a matter of obsessing on which of two utterly unacceptable SOBs nominated by the major parties may be an infinitesimal smidgeon better on this issue or that when BOTH have absolutely unacceptable positions on each and every issue that really matters (i.e not $$$ issues).

You can keep on responding as though there were any possibility whatsoever that I would wind up agreeing with your support of Mittler. There is and will be no such possibility. Mittler = Obozo = Beelzebub = Obozo = Mittler = Baal = Mittler = Obozo = Moloch = Obozo = Mittler. That is and will continue to be my position. I will vote for Tom Hoefling. I do not owe my vote to either Obozo or Mittler and neither will get it. I do not owe my POTUS vote to the GOP as currently constituted and the GOP will not get it. I owe absolutely nothing to the Romney pom pom girls who think I owe them my vote for their candidate. I don't and won't. I also don't claim to speak for God especially not in support of Mittler.

My vote is not a "secular nod." I don't check my Faith at the door of the voting place. However imperfectly, it follows me and is part of me wherever I go.

3,524 posted on 08/14/2012 5:03:30 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: greyfoxx39

I missed it, too.

I saw Pissant giving Palin followers a rough ride a couple of times, but I didn’t see the denouement.

Unfortunate. He was the staunchest supporter of Duncan Hunter. I felt he was on target when he gave the Fredheads tizzies by saying Fred didn’t have the “fire in the belly”.

But sometimes we go off the deep end, what can I say?


3,525 posted on 08/14/2012 5:05:11 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya; Kevmo; All

This site officially supports Israel and the Jewish people and Judeo-Christian values. Thank you very much.


3,526 posted on 08/14/2012 5:08:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Jim started FR and is allowing it to morph into a hate site.
***If you consider it a hate site then you won’t be posting here any more, right?


3,527 posted on 08/14/2012 5:10:19 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Jim Robinson

And so do I. I can’t help it if someone deliberately misreads what I post.


3,528 posted on 08/14/2012 5:11:49 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

There are about 52 third parties, and a lot of them are conservative.

I think the electorate of today makes a huge difference compared with the electorate of 1856, when it comes to making sudden, bold, radical changes.

I also think that it makes a difference that there were only young parties, even the oldest party, the democrat party, was only about 30 years old at the time the republicans took the Presidency.


3,529 posted on 08/14/2012 5:16:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Well, there’s lots of accusations of hate, I’ll give you that, but it’s mostly RINOs or CINOs expressing their hatred for us “purists.”

“Hate” is a word (actually a political tool) invented and used by the evil side to encourage their followers to persecute the undesirables.


3,530 posted on 08/14/2012 5:18:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ansel12

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2007/10/31/the_third_party_temptation_discredits_its_candidates_and_their_ideas?page=full

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3,531 posted on 08/14/2012 5:18:47 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan; Jim Robinson
The treatment of people like Jeff Head by Jimmy’s inner sanctum on this thread is disgusting. Disgusting.

It is freakin ridiculous how about 20 people on FR kiss Jim’s butt, about how he is the owner, and his opinion trumps everyone elses.

The adulation of Jeff and "butt kissing" from his "inner sanctum" is your business, but don't expect it from every FReeper.

Eerily reminiscent of the 1830s.

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.


3,532 posted on 08/14/2012 5:21:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

I don’t hate Romney. I don’t hate gays. I just can’t go along with their shared godless liberal/progressive statist agendas.


3,533 posted on 08/14/2012 5:21:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GreyMountainReagan
Tried suicide by cop a couple of times. Can’t seem to get zotted.

Another option -- favored by those without significant impulse control issues, at any rate -- is simply not logging onto Free Republic any longer.

Rather than insisting that Daddy take care of things for them, I mean.

3,534 posted on 08/14/2012 5:22:41 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

And I don’t hate Mormons. Just don’t believe the founder of their sect is a true prophet of God or that their book is the true word of God. And I can’t change that. It’s just the way it is. Must’ve been because of my upbringing in a Christian family.


3,535 posted on 08/14/2012 5:24:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: greyfoxx39; GreyMountainReagan; Jim Robinson
people on FR kiss Jim’s butt, about how he is the owner, and his opinion trumps everyone elses.

"Like he's actually the founder or the owner, or something!"

Tot.

3,536 posted on 08/14/2012 5:26:14 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: GreyMountainReagan; Jeff Head

Jeff’s a great guy and has no problem speaking for himself. I don’t think he needs me to be a nanny for him. If he is seriously attacked to the point he needs to submit an abuse report, I’m sure that either me or one of the mods will be happy to take a look at it.


3,537 posted on 08/14/2012 5:28:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

And if you wish to leave FR, be my guest. You don’t have to get the zot or opus or anything. You’re a grown adult. You can just leave and not look back. Give me a couple minutes and I’ll reset your FR cookie. After that you won’t be able to post again, unless you log in. If you do login again, then you really weren’t serious about leaving or you’re a glutton for punishment.


3,538 posted on 08/14/2012 5:32:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Kevmo

I want to conquer a vast, institutional party. I think Palin and a lot of tea party voters and some of our politicians do too.

As far as Romney goes, I won’t be voting for him, but I do expect that there will be a conservative plan to maximize our protest vote in some way that sends a unified message, I don’t mind waiting for the tea party, and/or JR’s ideas.

Medved probably likes things the way they are, with Romney, but his article is still informational.

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelmedved/2007/10/31/the_third_party_temptation_discredits_its_candidates_and_their_ideas/page/full/


3,539 posted on 08/14/2012 5:36:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson; GreyMountainReagan
Give me a couple minutes and I’ll reset your FR cookie. After that you won’t be able to post again, unless you log in. If you do login again, then you really weren’t serious about leaving or you’re a glutton for punishment.

A new type of zot demands new signage.

;)

3,540 posted on 08/14/2012 5:43:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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