Skip to comments.Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
Hugh has always been a mushy, feel good moderate, that seriously dislikes conservatives, he has always mocked and ridiculed conservatives on his show.
If I answer; will you ask another question or answer one of mine?
Those aren’t flowers. They’re trophies. . . . ;-)
Well; if you can get any oif these aforementioned folks to POST; then I can pretty well tell you that I'll abuse them; too.
Don’t count on it being a real answer.
Is the sky blue?
Well, you know if you guys didn’t hate so much, this would be a better place for everyone and you should vote for romney because otherwise the sky might fall.
I think of the babies who were safely in their mother's womb and just about to breath their first breath when they were allowed to be murdered because Barak Hussein Obama voted for late-term abortion. Because of those and the ones aborted, but born alive and then killed because of Obama's vote not save them, I will vote for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and every Republican on the ticket. For those innocents, I think you should too.
As long as they don't fall into their deceptive practicves that their chose religion teaches; then they won't have any problems with me over their conservatism.
But; if they try spouting MORMON teachings around here; they WILL get the FACTS shown to them and whomever wishes to read them.
You will have a problem with Mormons by calling posting verses from their precious scriptures and quotes from their blessed leaders and paragraphs from their voluminous writings SCAT.
I never heard him do that, but I haven’t been able to get him since I bought property in Texas. He’s still pretty hardcore when he’s on Hannity, but, like I said, everyone will let you down.
Well; it IS a bit like Whack-a-Mole.
That doesn't match with his working to get Mitt Romney into the White House, Hewitt was working on that since at least 2006.
In 2005, Governor Romney was still guaranteeing that he was "absolutely committed to his promise" to maintain the pro-abortion laws.
Sure you KNOW the MORMONs had these; but FAILED to follow the rules.
Too bad for them.
Oh well; I guess we'll have to live with the scorn of DU and True Blue.
You sound bitter at life, you keep repeating that “everyone” will let you down, we are only talking about a rino talk radio guy from PBS, not whatever is on your mind.
Does it involve pins and little dolls?
(Just to get them ready for the job; of course.)
Now; if we can just get them to commit...
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;
I have come that they may have life, and have it abundantly.
Well, the music hasn’t stopped yet so you don’t know where Mitt is going to flop next. He’s 100% unreliable on any issue. The man has no bedrock principles. And it’s not just on abortion, homosexuals and gun-grabbing. Did you watch the video all the way through and see where he was bragging about RomneyCare and how he got the federal government (we the taxpayers) to fund half of it? And how he was bragging about TARP and stimulus spending? Can you point to the clause in the constitution that empowers the federal government to be involved in any of the above? If Hewitt is pushing this squish, er, leftist liberal progressive, then the reports of him being a squish are absolutely true.
Oh, yeah, and how gullible is Romney? Watch the segment of the video where he swallows the leftist global warming bait, hook, line and sinker.
Ah, but you don't think of the babies who were safely in their Massachusetts' moms' wombs until RomneyCare $ paid for their dismemberment, eh? Why how conveniently hypocritical of you...I guess that's the 'reverse Yankee' treatment as to what occurred pre-civil war days...when blacks were worth something' north of the Mason-Dixon line...but not south...so Yanks' "babies" are up for your convenient sacrificial bin, eh?
ALL: This is what I mean by posters who refuse to hold Mitt the "Pro-abort" accountable...and simply look the other way...
Or you don't think of the embryos who've been "safely in their mother's womb and just about to" grow to the next stage over these past almost five years since Mitt advocated their "donation-ability" to "research" in a Katie Couric interview the first week of December 2007...when "pro-life" Mitt said on national TV that it was all a-"OK"...
For those innocents, I think you should too
(I guess by implication, if you're a pre-born in the Bay State, you're automatically not an "innocent" -- but a "guilty"...And...if you've done something horrendous as an embryo -- like fail to grow up fast enough, that too earns you the title of a "guilty" in the eyes of Mitt & his supporters...who think certain aged-embryos are worth neglecting...as long as it makes their/her fave candidate look better)
That's disgusting pandering to a pro-abort...from a so-called selective "pro-lifer..."
Only for MORMONs who, it seems, CANNOT stand up for their faith without calling folks bad names and accusing them falsely.
Ex-mos are a minority here, anyway.
KNOWLEDGEABLE and WILLING Christians expose and renounce the heresy of mormonISM all the time.
Why try to guilt trip ex-mos?
Oh Debby, your concern is noted.
For the fact it is SO one sided!!
That the concerned conservatives are "OBAMA-Bots" or "secret MUSLIMs" is insulting, disgusting and infuriating.
I don’t sew!
Well Deb maybe you should...
its very 1950s and stay-at-home-Momish..
You 'christians' ain't got the whole truth!
Hell, you'll probably vote for him twice.
0bama thanks you for your efforts to sow discord among conservatives on this conservative website.
Babbling is all you do.
It is a tactic of the left to call opposing opinions hate. You should ask yourself why the Mormons do it.
I first noticed this MO of Romney supporters in 2007. It was a marked proclivity, almost a marker, it was so consistent.
In Realville, voting for liberals guarantees bad outcomes. Romney is a liberal registered as a Republican. Voting for him is nuts. I don't care what Palin or Rush or Levin or anyone else says. You reap what you sow. I'm voting for a plurality to weaken whichever liberal wins.
For the fact it is SO one sided!!
***Well, a more apt description lately for such concern trolling is “For the fact it is SOW one sided!!”
Deb may not sew, but she does sow.
“Some of that has to be expected and endured, and ignored, if it becomes over done, over used, personal, and is creating logjams and hijackings, and too much bloodshed on threads, then a little slap down and a reminder of what freerepublic is, seems called for occasionally.”
You are right of course. I used to be of the mindset that GOP = Conservative and voted accordingly...and would have thought not voting for the GOP nominee was being a traitor. Of course, with my increasing age and experience I realize that is a naive view...but not something you can tell someone younger...or for that matter desparate to get rid of the current Dem POTUS.
“The last 3 months of an election year when freerepublic is against the GOP nominee, is going to be interesting and challenging.”
You know, from the posts I have read (especially in response to Jim’s post like this one) I am convinced that 75% of FR regulars are ABOs, and with the advent of Ryan that number has gone up. Those of us that oppose Romney, out of principle, may have to tone it down just to keep it from destroying the forum. I hate to back down like that, but at the same time I can’t see that I’m getting anyone to think, just pushing them into being more stubborn in their resolve to replace Obama with Romney, no matter how unsuitable Romney is for that purpose. Anyway, I’m probably going to post less often, and on threads where it won’t cause open warfare here on FR. I don’t like rabble rousers and if that all I can accomplish, it isn’t worth the effort. Besides, I know that ultimately America’s problems cannot be solved by political methods....they can only be made worse.
I am convinced that 75% of FR regulars are ABOs,
***true inundation by CINOs, as I’ve been saying for a few years.
I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.
To: babygene I dont think hes all that interested.
To: MHGinTN It doesnt matter what a FReeper thinks. Its just a list that they tell us what they think. That way we can tell who were dealing with.
To: Jim Robinson Hah hah, thats great. I signed up 2 months after you and Im a newbie. Back then no one even said, Welcome to FR. But yeah, I do think that there are tons of RINOs. To be more accurate, the term would be CINOs.
Ive been pushing for an idealogical litmus matrix here on FR, not to get rid of RINOs but to expose them.
THE GOP DOESNT WANT US- SO WHATS NEXT?
***It simply takes too long. Look at this thread alone. I see evidence of RINOism in some of the FReepers on this thread. It takes 700 posts to drill down. We need the matrix posted and available so that we dont have to drill down on every FReeping thread. Theyre wasting our time. Deliberately.
Agreed to a large degree. Perhaps a way to rate members by other members???
762 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:43:23 PM by roamer_1
130 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:39:20 PM by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
49 posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 7:29:27 PM by Kevmo ( Its all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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LOL... great read.
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your arrogance is not really appealing enough to entice me to go back and re post in-order to have anymore discussion with you......
you are a shining light for Christianity...../sarcasam
Had a thing for Opels. Made her feel all sexy.
Please read some of what I was responding to before butting in.
If babbling is what I do, boy, then babbling is what you do. Because your ‘romney’ comment is pretty much the same as my ‘obama’ comment.
romney is pretty much the same as obama.
“I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.”
I don’t agree with the “old guard” that can pretty much say what they want and get away with it. However, this is Jim’s website, not mine. Plus, I don’t contribute that much to maintain it. So, once again, I don’t see that I can complain. I also agree that the site is overrun with CINOs.
I agree with you that many of the original FReepers were probably more GOP loyalists than true conservatives (meaning to hold to all three legs of conservatism - SOCONism, NATDEFism, and Fiscalism). Many were of a very libertarian bent or just fiscally conservative. However, you can’t really blame Jim for being loyal to those he has traveled a long time with.
Hang in there. Keep records of those that rabidly promote an ABO agenda. You will note, should they get Romney elected, they will be the ones to scream the loudest when he screws up. So, watch and wait. It will be interesting.
“I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.”
I just checked you about page. You have been here since 1998! I’m surprized Jim would call you a Newbie. I’ve only been here since 2003 (I lurked for a time before). So, I’m a “Newbie” in the eyes of the Old Guard.
Thanks to all of you for your kind words and support!
Those are not facts. Those are your beliefs, which you are entitled to. They are facts to you. Regardless, and I brought this up on another thread, what difference does it make if Messiah comes and you think he his JC’s second coming and Jews think it is the first time? Same end result.
I am glad Obama thanks me for one vote in millions that will remove him from office. I hope he takes a good long relaxing vacation and we never hear from him again FOR THE SAKE OF ALL AMERICANS AND THE WORLD.
You can worry about your own soul; mine is fully taken care of.
That's just what they want you to do; waste time on a fool's errand.
They don't CARE if they are proven wrong about their false accusations, as most folks are so lazy they won't go back to see if the accusations have any merit.
Let 'em rave; I'll still post the message of TRUTH.
Info is good!
I'd like to SEE this 'first question' for myself, to make sure it was not of the "Are you still beating your wife?" category that occurs in these threads.
Those are not facts.
***Yes, they are FACTS. It is a FACT that Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean & returned from the new world in 1492, regardless of how you FEEL about that fact. It is also a FACT that Jesus claimed to be God Himself before the sanhedrin and was put to death for that claim. Regardless of how you FEEL about that fact.
what difference does it make if Messiah comes and you think he his JCs second coming and Jews think it is the first time? Same end result.
***Fascinating. What if you die beforehand, without accepting Jesus as Messiah and also as God & Savior? Your own scriptures in Genesis 49:12 tell you that Messiah has already come. Your sould is not “ fully taken care of.”
Yup, no scorn on him at all; other than being deceived by a pair of Satanic demons or a lying conman.
You will note, should they get Romney elected, they will be the ones to scream the loudest when he screws up. So, watch and wait. It will be interesting.
***We saw a small scale of that when there were a bunch of freepers who disrespected Tom McClintock vs Schwarzenegger in the recall election. I believe I only saw one freeper actually apologize for it and say he’d never vote for a RINO again. The rest are probably still here, pushing for RINOs.
Amazing how many Mormonism defenders there are and how few if any of them know anything about Mormonism.
You've been here a LONG time.If you asked this question WAY back; perhaps your rememberer is a bit fuzzy.
I wonder how far back the
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