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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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1 posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with you. I like Ryan despite his imperfections.

With Romney you have to wade through his flaws to find his imperfections.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 4:45:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jim Robinson
As an agnostic, I don't give a crap.

Yet, as I stated earlier, this is an awful pick. Ryan could never be more effective than where he is now. Romney takes a true conservative out of a position of power and sends him to foreign funerals for the next four years. Once again the conservatives get screwed!

3 posted on 08/11/2012 4:47:06 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Jim Robinson

The only other choice is taking our country down the path to Greece. If the Obama/Biden ticket wins I see $20 Trillion or more in the national debt. We may not have a country as we know it.


4 posted on 08/11/2012 4:48:11 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Jim Robinson
I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

Amen, brother.

5 posted on 08/11/2012 4:48:39 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Jim Robinson

One step at a time.We all know what Romney stands for.We also know who Obama is.We’ll vote for Romney , can’t see doing nothing.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 4:49:31 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: Jim Robinson

Have you checked out ‘12 POTUS candidate Tom Hoefling of America’s Party? IMHO, he’s much better than Virgil Goode, on most issues. Tom’s knowledge of the U.S. Constitution and all other important U.S. documents is second to none, and Tom is a terrific speaker, too.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 4:50:21 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m voting ABO/Ryan 2012.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 4:50:21 PM PDT by Carlucci
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen brother!


9 posted on 08/11/2012 4:50:31 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: Jim Robinson

A vote withheld from Romney only helps one person...


10 posted on 08/11/2012 4:50:31 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Jim Robinson
“This website considers the Mormon religion as false doctrine. Period.” Jim Robinson

Make sure everybody gets this point.

11 posted on 08/11/2012 4:51:05 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jim Robinson

Total agreement with you. I REALLY dislike Romney.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 4:51:30 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

I understand your views, I wish that they had prevailed in the primaries. But, this country as we know it will cease to exist if Obama is reelected. You are helping the other team, although I know that is not your intent.

Conservatism can prevail, but only if we get rid of the Progressive/Communist cancer that infects the White House. Romney’s not a cancer, just a very bad case of the Tupelo Two Step, Montezuma’s revenge, the Race to the Throne. Keep your powder dry and stock up on TP.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 4:51:49 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: gorush
Ryan could never be more effective than where he is now.

Hardly.

Ryan's budget went nowhere. The President sets the spending in this country. Obama and Bush are the most recent proof of that. In a Romney-Ryan Administration, Romney will set the budget goal, Ryan will generate the President's budget and submit it to the House for Rubber Stamping. Trust me. That's the way it will be. Ryan is our best hope for that budget being something we can live with.

14 posted on 08/11/2012 4:52:57 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: Jim Robinson

No argument here and I agree 100%. The VP Office really means nothing except for a few days after the pick is announced.

I’m just hoping that this is setting up Ryan, or another Conservative, for 2016.


15 posted on 08/11/2012 4:53:10 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Jim Robinson

Rep. Ryan looks like the older brother of Brad Paisley, the country music performer.


16 posted on 08/11/2012 4:53:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You're screwed, losers. Steyn 2012!")
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To: Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR.

Well heck.

I hope it wasn't any of the good moderators!
I thank them all for their efforts regardless.

And no, Ryan does not redeem Romney but he sure don't hurt.

17 posted on 08/11/2012 4:54:34 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I used to be for Goode but you’re right. Hoefling matches up with most of us conservatives. Goode is isolationist like Ron Paul and its a shame.


18 posted on 08/11/2012 4:54:51 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: Jim Robinson
"Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact."

Thank you. I guess the Apostle Paul must have been a "bigot", too, when he preached against false religions on Mars Hill. It's been unreal, seeing conservatives use such accusations.

19 posted on 08/11/2012 4:56:27 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Tax-chick
Rep. Ryan looks like the older brother of Brad Paisley, the country music performer.

Now that's the type of in-depth political analysis that can be counted on here at Free Republic. Thanks for your contribution.

By the way, who does Ryan's wife look like?

20 posted on 08/11/2012 4:57:13 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: InterceptPoint

Of course Ryan’s budget went nowhere. But you need to keep someone there that is at least a proponent of rationality.


21 posted on 08/11/2012 4:58:01 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: SunTzuWu
A vote withheld from Romney only helps one person...

...the person you vote for.

22 posted on 08/11/2012 4:58:07 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot.

Three cheers and tip of the hat for being a steadfast man of principle.

In Obama's America, being called a bigot, a racist and homophobe is a badge of honor. One of the numerous good things about Free Republic is its defense for traditional Christian values and its stand against political correctness. Likewise, this is one of the few places on the planet where being branded a McCarthyite is a compliment. Is is any wonder that FR remains, after all these years, the only authentic presence on the web for true Conservatives?

Go Jim Go!

,,,and thanks.

23 posted on 08/11/2012 4:58:07 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: gorush

“Romney takes a true conservative out of a position of power and sends him to foreign funerals for the next four years.”

It’s not like Ryan went reluctantly...and Romney could have done much worse. If O is upset about him, IMO that’s a good thing.


24 posted on 08/11/2012 4:59:08 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Jim Robinson
I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

God bless you for standing firm in support of hard, genuine conservative principles, Jim. You are an honest and undisputed patriot.

To all the huffily indignant and red-faced Mittbot concern trolls and online shills, regularly hopping up and down and screeching like hyper-amphetamined howler monkeys over the unimaginable prospect of committed movement conservatives actually daring NOT to pledge undying fealty to and worship of their anointed CINO du jour:


25 posted on 08/11/2012 4:59:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Jim Robinson

We are where we are in this great American experiment in God given individual liberty. It’s been under assault for over 70 years, but never to the extent Obama has taken us. As an American, and as a grandfather, I will do everything possible to defeat this dictatorship and elect Romney/Ryan.

God bless FR, and God bless America.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 4:59:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m against mormonism and dont particularly care for Romney. I am so Enthusiastic about Ryan.

But no matter what i think of Mitt, I despise Zero and will vote for any Republican nominee before I help Zero get another 4 years by sitting it out or voting for a third party nobody.

At the end, if this keeps up, everyone on here is going to call everyone else a RINO if we dont agree 100%.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 4:59:37 PM PDT by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: Jim Robinson

I will vote for the Anti-Socialist on November 6th, because a vote for anything else is a vote for Socialism!


28 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:14 PM PDT by Chief901 (Obama Septic Tank Campaign Ads, full of sh!t and smell like crap)
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To: Jim Robinson

Willard was pressured enough to tip right. With Roberts cementing a Socialist Supreme Court, the deck is stacked. It ‘s a crap sammich but it is game over if Soetoro gets more SC picks. To defeat Liberals, the court system is the 2 x 4 attention getter to their faces. Not good odds in Willard but it is the hand that is dealt.


29 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:24 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Jim Robinson

I have 3 young kids and they need Obama out. I wish you would help us. Given the choices we have I cannot see sitting out or voting for a spoiler. Obama must go


30 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:28 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: Jim Robinson

I have 3 young kids and they need Obama out. I wish you would help us. Given the choices we have I cannot see sitting out or voting for a spoiler. Obama must go


31 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:38 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: Jim Robinson

..God bless you JimRob—you are a patriot and a man of truth...


32 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:50 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Jim Robinson; cripplecreek
The GOP-E wants us Conservatives to Moderate and Compromise?

Okay

I will compromise and Vote for your Candidate if you Flip that Ticket.

You can still have your Democrat-Lite and we can have President that will roll back expanding Federal Power.

Until you get that through your thick heads though that Romney running the show STILL deflates all the Conservatives around him, you are up a creek without a paddle.

33 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:54 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: Jim Robinson

If more conservatives felt like Jim Robinson, we wouldn’t have these frauds and usurpers begging for our adoration and votes.


34 posted on 08/11/2012 5:01:08 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Jim Robinson
I was just going to comment on one or two things you said but after reading all of your post Jim I'll just say I concur 1001% with everything you said. The Mormon religion is little more than an organized cult IMO and Romney is very much more closer to the (satanist) Obama in his stated and practiced positions than he is to me and conservatives.

He definitely will not receive my vote. I like Ryan a little but his selection is just way too little and way too late to have any impact on my feelings towards the equally evil one, Mittens Rumney.

35 posted on 08/11/2012 5:02:35 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Have you checked out ‘12 POTUS candidate Tom Hoefling of America’s Party? IMHO, he’s much better than Virgil Goode, on most issues.

That is a fantastic idea. Rather than waste my vote on NutGoode, whom no one will even remember in five months, I'll waste my vote on some other loser. That way, when Obama gets reelected, I can say I did my part.

36 posted on 08/11/2012 5:02:50 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SunTzuWu

“A vote withheld from Romney only helps one person...”


Yeah, it helps Romney with a tan. You might know him as Barack Obama.


37 posted on 08/11/2012 5:02:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve been called repeatedly an Obama lover and a troll for stating my opposition to Romney. It seems I’m in good company.

Thanks for your principled stand, Jim.


38 posted on 08/11/2012 5:04:41 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Keep forgettin’ about that.It’s not only the Senate we need,it’s the SC picks.Anyone who does’nt vote does not have Americas’ back.


39 posted on 08/11/2012 5:05:17 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: Chief901

“I will vote for the Anti-Socialist on November 6th, because a vote for anything else is a vote for Socialism!”


There isn’t an anti-socialist (POTUS candidate) to choose from on November 6th, so I take it you’ll be staying home.


40 posted on 08/11/2012 5:05:17 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: KC_Lion
I will compromise and Vote for your Candidate if you Flip that Ticket.

Yeah I could do that.
41 posted on 08/11/2012 5:05:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. ME too
42 posted on 08/11/2012 5:05:53 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: Jim Robinson

JR, I agree with and appreciate every single word of this post. I hope that you, like me, and many of us, can reach the point where you say I am not voting for Romney, I am voting against Obama. If Obama is re-elected, we are in danger of losing this Country.


43 posted on 08/11/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Jim Robinson

-1/2 vote for Romney -1/2 vote for Obama


44 posted on 08/11/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Please don’t let this election tear us apart everyone, we are all on the same team even if we disagree here and there.


45 posted on 08/11/2012 5:06:39 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: cripplecreek

Nothing would ever satisfy the ABR crowd.


46 posted on 08/11/2012 5:06:45 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: KC_Lion
The GOP-E wants us Conservatives to Moderate and Compromise?

Okay

I will compromise and Vote for your Candidate if you Flip that Ticket.

Moved and seconded. ;)

47 posted on 08/11/2012 5:07:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Moonmad27

“At the end, if this keeps up, everyone on here is going to call everyone else a RINO if we dont agree 100%.”

Too late.


48 posted on 08/11/2012 5:08:54 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Jim Robinson
You bet, Jim, we're all much better off with an abortionist/homosexualist, statist, Stalinist whose love of our Constitution is so great that he uses it for a doormat.

Yep, Jim, GREAT CALL! /rolleyes
49 posted on 08/11/2012 5:08:58 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: gorush

True, but it was also Ryan’s choice to take the position when offered.


50 posted on 08/11/2012 5:09:06 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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