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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: presently no screen name

Romney is NOT Jewish!

***She obviously is attempting to hijack the thread, as well as get it pulled.


4,801 posted on 08/17/2012 5:03:51 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

No I would have preferred that you had not challenged me to a confrontation on what I believed about Israel, the Biblical people of the LORD God who dwells in their midst ...

I dont know what makes you tick...

But it isnt about any anti-Semitism fron the Christian FReepers in this thread...

I doubt if you will find any...

Meanwhile the LORD God doesnt tell us to obey asnd honor our parents UNLESS they are “secular, extremely political liberal Jews”

He does not qualify the degree to which our parents must EARN our respect, honor and obedience...

He just commands we do it...

I would have thought obeying the LORD God would be second nature to a Jew..

Especially one who has set herself up a Lucy Judgemental Booth where Gentiles are TSAed about their religious thoughts..

Why am I wrong ???


4,802 posted on 08/17/2012 5:03:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Kevmo

Yep, all her attempts are obvious - from whining to getting it moved to calling freepers names to changing the subject.


4,803 posted on 08/17/2012 5:09:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Elsie

Enter ye in at the NARROW gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.

“And the NARROW gate is set in ROME??”

~ ~ ~

Hi Sister,

If you mean by “ROME”, Roman Catholicism, bingo, you got
it. It is the true faith. Jesus IS NOT returning in this
“soon” middle coming to say, “fine, stay with whatever of the 30 thousand plus Protestant denominations, non-denominations and home churches you attend.”

Four centuries of some Christians sad, Scripture is your only authority but you get decide what it means. Inconsistent in belief is the fruit because you make yourself your own pope.

Protestants can never be specific, they keep repeating
one line. “Jesus is coming soon.” There’s more, go
further, we can know, Scripture and prophecy reveals
God’s plans for the near future.


4,804 posted on 08/17/2012 5:10:40 PM PDT by stpio
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To: presently no screen name

Caw caw caw.

I was TOLD repeatedly by several posters that it was not POLITICS but MORMONISM of the candidate that was the issue, with tons of scripture and doctrine held up as evidence.

YOU MAKE IT ABOUT THE RELIGION, AND SOONER OR LATER, SOMEONE WILL POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT RELIGION IS RUNNING!

ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION IS WRONG!

AND WHEN ASKED HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THAT PERSON? THE TENETS OF MY FAITH.

WHAT. YOU DON’T FOLLOW JC. TEST THE FAITH OF THE JEW! CONVERT THAT POSTER!

In case anyone was wondering what the thread was about...


4,805 posted on 08/17/2012 5:13:33 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: stpio

Jesus IS NOT returning in this “soon” middle coming to say, “fine, stay with whatever of the 30 thousand plus Protestant denominations, non-denominations and home churches you attend.”
***Yet another thread hijacking attempt.


4,806 posted on 08/17/2012 5:15:00 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
He just commands we do it...

AMEN! As He knows what is best for us even when we don't, when we learn to OBEY HIM we will never be misled.

I would have thought obeying the LORD God would be second nature to a Jew..

It certainly was for Abraham!

4,807 posted on 08/17/2012 5:16:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Tennessee Nana

The “test the Jew on Judaism” honey trap closed awhile ago.

I explained my tagline. Actually, I kinda like how I did it. Going to save that one, so thanks for asking me that question!


4,808 posted on 08/17/2012 5:17:29 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: presently no screen name

This isn’t about you!! It’s a thread on Romney and the reasons some of us will NOT vote for him. Capisce?
***No, she does not capisce.


4,809 posted on 08/17/2012 5:20:45 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: JewishRighter

Lol!


4,810 posted on 08/17/2012 5:21:55 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: sf4dubya
Yes MORMONISM was being vetted and MITT is a MORMON!!

Until you can two and two together just zip the lip!

Thankful there are some helpful freepers who tell us about Mormonism because I knew nothing about it. And, at the time of my ignorance about Mormonism - I NEVER had plans or did I vote for Mitt - I KNEW HIS RECORD.

ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION IS WRONG!

Show me where that is happening???? WHAT CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE???? KEEP IT HONEST. NO MORE OF YOUR BS!

4,811 posted on 08/17/2012 5:23:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: sf4dubya
Yes MORMONISM was being vetted and MITT is a MORMON!!

Until you can two and two together just zip the lip!

Thankful there are some helpful freepers who tell us about Mormonism because I knew nothing about it. And, at the time of my ignorance about Mormonism - I NEVER had plans or did I vote for Mitt - I KNEW HIS RECORD.

ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION IS WRONG!

Show me where that is happening???? WHAT CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE???? KEEP IT HONEST. NO MORE OF YOUR BS!

4,812 posted on 08/17/2012 5:24:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: sf4dubya
The “test the Jew on Judaism” honey trap closed awhile ago.

YO!! YOU don't DECIDE when ANYTHING is closed - even though you brought Judaism into a thread about Romney.

WE DO!

Abraham was a man of faith - not a godless wonder of his own imagination!

4,813 posted on 08/17/2012 5:28:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

wow you really like caps....

DEAN HELLER US SENATE R-NEVADA

90 LIFETIME RATING FROM AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION

MORMON!

BE HONEST!! TELL PEOPLE YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS ABOUT RELIGION AND NOT CONSERVATISM!


4,814 posted on 08/17/2012 5:32:00 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: sf4dubya

“All I asked were all religious doctrine stuff be kept to the Religion forum.”

~ ~ ~

Hi,

I thought this way too, I remember on road trips I
flipped the car radio to stop at a Christian station, realizing, in a second I would change the music. Couldn’t stand it.

I changed...

The immoral acts of BHO and Romney are going to keep coming up, you can’t separate them from our vote in November.

How we act morally and spiritually is going determine the
future. The 40/50 years of mocking God is up, His hand
is about to fall.

Turn to Christ, to the Father and only look to Them. Two
ungodly men will not help this country.

Here’s a short but not sweet message from Heaven. Heaven
knows. Look at the first prophecy, summer is almost over
and we are experiencing the worst drought in decades.

Now, the second prophecy, it’s so dire, put some necessities
aside, have faith. God will multiply even if you can only
buy a few items. You showed faith.

He has waited for our return, this judgment may no longer
be put off?? ...so that means it truly is close.

~ ~ ~

message to Jennifer

5/22/12
7:43 PM

My child, I say to My children that mankind relies too much upon himself and it is there that you become the victim of your own sinfulness. Heed to the Commandments My children for they are your entrance into the kingdom.

I weep today My children but it is those who are failing to heed to My warnings that will weep tomorrow. The winds of spring will turn into the rising dust of summer as the world will begin to look more like a desert.

Before mankind is able to change the calendar of this time you will have witnessed the financial collapse. It is only those who heed to My warnings that will be prepared. The North will attack the South as the two Koreas become at war with each other.

Jerusalem will shake, America will fall and Russia will unite with China to become Dictators of the new world. I plead in warnings of love and mercy for I am Jesus and the hand of justice is soon to prevail.

http://wordsfromjesus.com/


4,815 posted on 08/17/2012 5:40:03 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

The other guy tried with my soul is in jeopardy. Please work on him and show him how wonderful your religion can be.

Your approach is much nicer.

Thank you, but I know Hashem is One and all knowing.

G-d be with you.


4,816 posted on 08/17/2012 5:47:12 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: Graybeard58; RitaOK; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Finny; Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance; ...
Greybeard58:

I would resolve the problem in a way that has not been used before.

The one useful debate in the 2012 cycle was the one at the Palmetto Freedom Forum in Columbia, SC, on or about 9/4/11 and hosted by Senator Jim DeMint in South Carolina. Each candidate was sequestered in a separate "green room" and not allowed to hear the responses of the other candidates. There was no opportunity for smart-assing one another on stage. Each candidate came out on stage alone to be questioned. The panel doing the questioning included substantive folks not enemies from the lame stream media. One questioner (on social issues) was Professor Robert George of Princeton University, perhaps the most distinguished academic in the US on such issues.

The other questioners were Iowa US Representative Steve King and Senator DeMint, fine men both but I think officeholders and politicians should NOT be questioners. Most have alliances. I would look for other panel members to be folks who are not politicians but, like Professor George, serious public policy experts. Examples: Victor Davis Hanson of the Hoover Institute on foreign and military policy and a Peter Schiff on economics and tax policy. It should be clearly understood that the questioners MUST be even-handed even with those with whom they disagree. OTOH, they should not be bashful as to rigorously testing the intellectual and policy bona fides of each candidate. For example, Professor George's questions surprisingly led even so experienced a debater as Newt Gingrich to understand that his pro-life position and those of Gingrich's faith were not identical. Gingrich. to his credit, then conceded that he would modify his stand accordingly to conform with his faith.

I can imagine similar intellectual experiences occurring under the questioning of Peter Schiff and/or Victor Davis Hanson. The specific identities of the questioners are not as important as are their objectivity, conservative commitment, fairness, intellect, policy literacy and questioning skill. If Bill Buckley were alive and in his prime, he would be an ideal moderator. Perhaps Larry Arnn, president of Hillsdale College might moderate.

Conservatives and their organizations must commit to certain propositions. First, full participation in such a debate or debates is mandatory for any candidate seeking conservative support for the GOP POTUS nomination. We must not support anyone ducking the debate.

Second, such a defining debate or debates must be very early in the process (July 4, 2015 or so).

Third, some of the questioning should be general and submitted to each candidate in advance:

A. For example: Why do you seek the presidency? Why are you a conservative? Why are you a Republican? What can you do better as POTUS than other available candidates? What are the strengths and weaknesses (both of them) of the POTUS you seek to succeed? What qualities are most important for public leadership? Why will your supporters see your presidency as a defining moment in their and this nation's life? What do you say to convince us as conservatives that you are the candidate who can develop a 50-state organization led by talented people of experience to run your "ground war," raise the funds necessary to fund your air war WITHOUT compromising your integrity, deal with and overcome the character assassination that is sure to be launched against you as GOP nominee by the moneyed liberals in the GOP process and the Demonrats thereafter?

Cheering sections should be prohibited. An audience is not necessary in the studio. No post debate spin room allowed at the facility. No audio-visual aids.

Try to make this sort of vetting process the standard for choosing our candidate.

Take control of RNC and change the rules to put a stop to front loading the process with mushball moderate states. Also, require each state party to register voters as Republicans (regardless of statutes) and limit the primary and caucus voting to registered Republicans. It is our party and registration is a minimal requirement to choose its candidates. If necessary, the GOP should pay its own expenses for its candidate selection process and set an example for others. If state laws disagree with party rules, the SCOTUS ruled in 1972 that party rules take precedence over statute (so long as not for excluding racial minorities) in a case involving challenges to Mayor Daley the Elder's Illinois delegation to that year's convention.

Change the culture of the GOP so that any attempt ala Romney to use anonymous money by the oceanful to flood the airwaves, stifle his opponents' ability to even buy airtime and to fund the waging of a relentless campaign of lies and character assassination should bring disrepute upon such a candidate equivalent to being caught red-handed molesting a child.

We also need to organize conservatives on the ground throughout the nation, serving as GOP precinct committee members, GOP county committee members, training our folks in election tactics, GOTV tactics, obligations of election officials, battling absentee and early ballot abuse, generating letters to the editor, fighting vote fraud, organizing tactics, causing conservatives to socialize together, coordinating with TEA Party folks, gun owners, veterans, fraternal groups, pro-lifers, church folks, small business owners, socially conservative union members, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, voter outreach, youth, elderly, folks who have (like Sarah Palin) had enough with corruption (no matter which party is at fault), getting out our own absentee votes, and, above all, relentless voter registration of friendly voters.

We should also let our candidates know that they should refuse to submit to MSM debates run by our enemies. They need us. We do NOT need them.

I could go on forever but I won't. We need a new blueprint as a movement and we need a new movement. Others should feel free to suggest other ideas.

God bless you and yours! Likewise to all those pinged.

4,817 posted on 08/17/2012 5:50:11 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: sf4dubya

I was TOLD repeatedly by several posters that it was not POLITICS but MORMONISM of the candidate that was the issue, with tons of scripture and doctrine held up as evidence.
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While all along it was TOLD repeatedly by several posters that it was not the MORMONISM but the POLITICS of the candidate Willard that was the issue, with tons of videos and documention held up as evidence.

Your “secular, extremely political liberal Jew” parents would just love Willards politics...

so why are you agreeing with your parents ???


4,818 posted on 08/17/2012 5:58:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya; Jim Robinson

I may not always agree with you but the story you have posted makes me, at least, glad you are among us. I also agree that the religious arguments belong in the Religion Forum. I don’t envy JimRob in his task of refereeing this stuff.


4,819 posted on 08/17/2012 5:59:57 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: BlackElk

Excellent, excellent post. I am starting to despair, however, of the GOP ever listening to its base, its backbone, and instituting the change necessary to satisfy us.

The party left us. It’s time for a new one, built for the right reasons, to attract the right candidates, and hopefully save our great country.


4,820 posted on 08/17/2012 6:02:27 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: sf4dubya

so thanks for asking me that question!
_________________________________

kid I didnt ask you anything...

I just pointed out your hypocrisy...


4,821 posted on 08/17/2012 6:03:39 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya

“The other guy tried with my soul is in jeopardy. Please work on him and show him how wonderful your religion can be.

Your approach is much nicer.

Thank you, but I know Hashem is One and all knowing.

G-d be with you.”

~ ~ ~

Thank you and God bless you sf4,

There a lot of different discussions going on between people in this thread, I haven’t been keeping up.

My theme, I am stuck on the spiritual, especially
private revelation.

The May 22nd message (given in spring time) to Jennifer came true. The second prophecy about a financial collapse, everyone remember and prepare. Spiritually, the most important.

The end of times, we have two non-Christians running for
President!! Mostly I hear pay no attention, doesn’t
matter. It sure does.


4,822 posted on 08/17/2012 6:03:53 PM PDT by stpio
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To: sf4dubya

I know Hashem is One and all knowing.
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Then you know that He was none too pleased that Lot’s wife would not choose the safety cave of Conservatism but kepy on looking back and yearning for the evils of the liberal cities Sodom and Gomorrah ...

In fact He had an approach that was not too nice...

he killed her by turning her to a pillar of salt...

and thats what He thinks of the politics of the liberal baby murderer Willard...

He hates them and commands the death penalty for each evil issue...


4,823 posted on 08/17/2012 6:15:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: trebb

Thank you for that dose of common sense, straight out of Scripture. God bless you.


4,824 posted on 08/17/2012 6:23:49 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: sf4dubya
YOU REFUSE to listen!

Until you can put two and two together just zip the lip!

And you are still at it! What part of Heller is NOT running for president are you STILL NOT ABLE to get. Hard headed all the time or just here?

And here YOU are STILL making this about religion bringing up the fact that Heller is a Mormon! Romney is running - STAY FOCUSED or stay off!

Your CONSTANT attempt to bring this thread OFF TOPIC shows nothing but deliberate trollish behavior.

4,825 posted on 08/17/2012 6:29:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: BlackElk; Jim Robinson

Thanks BlackElk.

As you see, it all started with fiscal conservatism to set me on the path. I seriously cannot think of Branch Davidians or Eilian Gonzalez or anything else that happened in Clinton’s second term without my eyes welling up.

It is very easy for conservatives to agree to disagree on one topic graciously, without breaking this site apart.

You’re one of the good ones. I wholeheartedly support infiltration of the GOP by the TEA party, closed primaries, and Sarah Palin as RNC chairwoman.

Can you repost that somewhere without it being in this cesspool of a thread?


4,826 posted on 08/17/2012 6:32:24 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: presently no screen name

Clucka ducka cluck cluck I didn’t make the issue about Mormonism cluck cluck cluck BAAAAAARAAAAAAAAK


4,827 posted on 08/17/2012 6:38:22 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: sf4dubya

Got more than one FReeper name and account eh ???


4,828 posted on 08/17/2012 6:41:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Sudetenland

Yes, I am sorry to say that Jim in his resentment of the weakness of some, makes himself into a bit of an idiot. Sorry, but it is true. Romney is no abortionist...o brother.


4,829 posted on 08/17/2012 6:43:08 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Williams; ansel12; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Godzilla; Elsie; metmom; boatbums; caww; ...
Of course I may have missed some Mormon posts but I sure haven’t seen proseltyzing by Mormons here. Just speaking for myself I tend to view anyone who tries to spout their religion as the only one as a fool, unless they happen to share in my Roman Catholicism which is the one true, holy and apostolic Church of Jesus Christ.

And it is Roman Catholicism that has been most often promoted here as the OTC to whom all must submit, while they then often complain about the reproof that attracts.

And that as a Roman Catholic I have more issue with the Protestant Reformation than with Mormonism.

Even though Rome at least affirms baptized Protestants may be saved as such, unlike those in the LDS.

But Roman Catholicism and Mormonism operate out of the same basis of authority, that of the church being the supreme infallible-type authority, which they infallibly declare themselves to be, and can likewise declare Tradition, Scripture and history as supporting them. While you have the pope, and they have the living prophet.

But whenever mortals presume to be the supreme authority, versus the Scriptures, then both the bodies as well as the souls of men are in danger, as history has shown.

4,830 posted on 08/17/2012 6:47:41 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Careful dear. My income pays for your blood pressure medicine.

Nah, they are voting for Obama, if they actually go and do it. Romney scared the heck out of them with his talk of defunding Planned Parenthood. Probably can visualize the fundraising emails.

I’ll say it again: I have no issue with people voting for whoever they want to vote for, and explaining why. I have a huge issue with those of you who sat here making it about a candidate’s religion, posting tons and tons of anti-Mormon, conservative dividing tripe. Because that hurts us in so many ways, you have no no idea. It hurts local races for seats we need.

What did JC say? Forgive them LORD, they know not what they do?


4,831 posted on 08/17/2012 6:49:52 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: sf4dubya

Your “secular, extremely political liberal Jew” parents would just love Willards politics...

so why are you agreeing with your parents ???


4,832 posted on 08/17/2012 6:54:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya

My blood pressure is perfect dearie...

You can keep all your income to send to your boy Wee Willie...


4,833 posted on 08/17/2012 6:56:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fabian

Romney says differently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


4,834 posted on 08/17/2012 6:57:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sf4dubya

I have no issue with people voting for whoever they want to vote for, and explaining why.
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Nobody has to explain anything to you kid...

I DO take issue that you would demand FReepers excuse their God given Constitutional right to vote to you...

If FReepers dont want to vote for the Godless, immoral baby killing gay rights, liberal trash Willard thats thewor business as free American citizens...

and if you dont like it it does not effect my blood pressure one bit...


4,835 posted on 08/17/2012 7:02:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Newp. Ask Jim to check IPs. What about you? How many accounts do you have?

You see, I have a completely opposite view of FR than you. You want it to be a little exclusive club where you start burning groups of people off the reservation with your litmus tests and temperature checks and purges and witch burnings.

I want its membership to grow with all these people who tasted Marxism and spit it out so they can learn about all facets of conservativism from this usually wonderful resource like I did.

Because like Paul Ryan, I remember what Clinton’s second term was all about. And I don’t subscribe to this scorched earth method you all do, because Clinton’s second term will look like a first class vacation compared to Obama’s.

Why ya think Jan Brewer is defying the EO?


4,836 posted on 08/17/2012 7:05:06 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: Jim Robinson

Look, he is obviously going to admit that he screwed up on his healthcare crap , I pray. But as far as the abortion quotes, you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan was pro choice also and switched! Yet you will not give Romney that same grace that you have given Reagan. Not right and very reactionary.


4,837 posted on 08/17/2012 7:05:34 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: sf4dubya

4,838 posted on 08/17/2012 7:05:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Jim Robinson

Look, he is obviously going to have admit that he screwed up on his healthcare crap , I pray. But as far as the abortion quotes, you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan was pro choice also and switched! Yet you will not give Romney that same grace that you have given Reagan. Not right and very reactionary.


4,839 posted on 08/17/2012 7:06:06 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
Romney is no abortionist


4,840 posted on 08/17/2012 7:11:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fabian
Romney is no abortionist


4,841 posted on 08/17/2012 7:12:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: BlackElk

Why I’m the heck aren’t you in office, for crying out loud? Catholic to boot! (As in a faithful, devout, practicing, pious Catholic, of which the voters have never experienced in public office.

Guess that might explain why you are not I’m office. Our loss.

Thx very, for the ping.


4,842 posted on 08/17/2012 7:13:28 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: sf4dubya
YOU made this thread about religion and wanted THIS POLITICAL THREAD - the reasons Jim and others will NOT vote for Romney - the godless LIBERAL MORMAN - moved to the religion forum.

How many times does this need to be said to YOU? You can't believe your own actions, so you DENY them?

4,843 posted on 08/17/2012 7:14:22 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Tennessee Nana

What brought you to FR in 2007 sweetie? I love hearing stories about how people found this place.


4,844 posted on 08/17/2012 7:15:10 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: fabian

Horse hockey. Reagan didn’t go around around for thirty plus years advocating that abortion should be safe and legal in America or that Roe v Wade should be sustained and supported as settled law. Or that he would be better for homosexual rights than Ted Kennedy. And we definitely know that he was polar opposite to the liberal progressive Mitt Romney on compulsory health insurance. Reagan warned us that that would be the way socialists would take over America. Look out America, here it comes. Brought to you courtesy, Mitt Romney.

Obama on socialized healthcare: “I agree with... Mitt Romney.”

Reagan on compulsory health insurance (socialist RomneyCare/ObamaCare):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


4,845 posted on 08/17/2012 7:15:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: BlackElk

Oops. Cell phone spelling!

I’m - “in”


4,846 posted on 08/17/2012 7:16:47 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: sf4dubya; Elsie
I got myself this tattoo today to encourage you folks to hurry up and get this thread to 5,000 ASAP. Thank you.


4,847 posted on 08/17/2012 7:18:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: sf4dubya

Why ya think Jan Brewer is defying the EO?
________________________________________

Thats because she doesnt agree with your boy Wee Willie on illegasl aliens...

Willie wants them to have mandated AMNESTY...

Jan doesnt...

Willard is a “its the law of the land, we mustest mucjk with it” lying liberal...

He doesnt care that Roe V Wade and the DREASM Act/AMNESTy Bill are not constitutional...

They mustnt be touched because he wants it that way...

he just is POed that he didnt get to EO them like he did same sex marriafe in MASS...

He got to sign 189 “marriage” licences for Partner A and Partner B in 2005 for his good homosexual buddies...

WOW

What power...

what deviancy...

What a despot...


4,848 posted on 08/17/2012 7:21:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Revolting cat!

WOW

those hands have never chopped wood...


4,849 posted on 08/17/2012 7:23:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fabian
you could also transpose Reagan there as Reagan

NO we couldn't, we aren't LIARS. Romney has abortion right in his own romneycare which he praises! And that wasn't enough evil - he initiated same sex marriage in MA and, personally, married some homos!

KEEP IT HONEST and keep Reagan OUT of such filth - how dare you bring a Godly man, a conservative Patriot down that low - just to suit your agenda!

4,850 posted on 08/17/2012 7:23:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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