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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Anti-Bubba182
We are not electing a cleric in chief. I will take the Morman over the social justice false Christian.
151 posted on 08/11/2012 5:42:25 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: Sola Veritas
I don’t want to be a pest in another man’s home.

A wholly admirable stance; and one which places you in stark contrast to all the ruder Mittbots hereabouts; who knowingly shill and spew pro-Mittens talking points knowing full well, all the while, that their HOST doesn't like it.

You're not "That Guy." Be glad of that. ;)

152 posted on 08/11/2012 5:42:34 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
We are not electing a cleric in chief. I will take the Morman over the social justice false Christian.
153 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:01 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

It’s even more confusing when FReepers who were vehemently anti-Romney a few years ago are now ardent supporters of his.

Flip-floppers for a flip-flopper, I guess.


154 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:42 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: GreyFriar

Except for one that puts the country above all else.


155 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:50 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: humblegunner

LOL, I said the same but you put it stronger, LOL.

Ah someone did not agree with Jim so they have to act out, reminds of the anal sex crowd.
Get all in a tantrum.


156 posted on 08/11/2012 5:44:42 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Parley Baer

“The only other choice is taking our country down the path to Greece. If the Obama/Biden ticket wins I see $20 Trillion or more in the national debt. “

Yep, and the insiders The Hillary Gang feels the heat, that’s why they put forth HillaryRomney and want their own version of Extortion-Care, Massachusetts Style.


157 posted on 08/11/2012 5:44:51 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: humblegunner; woofie

“When exactly was that?”

The most recent time I know of that Cheney was called a RINO was when he opined that Palin might not have been McLame’s best pick for a running mate - although I’m pretty sure he garnered the coveted title due to other indiscretions prior to that, too.


158 posted on 08/11/2012 5:45:16 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

thought I was the only one thinking that after last night and this morning.

I’m sick of the GOP, all they care about is their money and power and to hell with us down in the south or the base.


159 posted on 08/11/2012 5:45:31 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jim Robinson

I *love* your last paragraph. Thank you for being so bold in your support of truth.


160 posted on 08/11/2012 5:45:31 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: RepoGirl

He;s a liberal. Far from it I’ve talked to himand he is not but the way you are acting is making you look very small and stupid and yes even liberal.


161 posted on 08/11/2012 5:47:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m ecstatic about Paul Ryan!

Here’s some of the Best of Paul Ryan vids posted elsewhere:

1. Ryan totally owns President Narcissus in the healthcare so-called “forum” - Look how scared Obutthole appears when Ryan starts to speak (at 3:00 Obama isn’t even listening and at 5:30 Obama flips him off):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-lxg7XrF6I&feature=related

2. And after one of President Narcissus’s speeches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT30c5qbk90&feature=related

3. Ryan totally owns MSNBC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ThvOyrPCw&feature=related

4. And more recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bib7kKBhqs&NR=1&feature=endscreen
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That said, Jim, I’m truly puzzled by this obstinate insistence on not doing the ABO vote (Anybody But Obummer).

If your contempt for Mormons is so strong, can I ask you why isn’t your contempt for our Muslim President Bork Obunga even GREATER than your contempt for Mormons?

I find that viewpoint disturbing because many Muzzigers want to exterminate us and I don’t hear that from the Mormons.

Are you willing to be AWOL in the fight against Bork Obunga and waste your vote and all the other ABR folks’ votes that could be used to unseat this tyrant??? That’s how I see you at this point: AWOL in the fight.

If you don’t swallow your pride and vote the strongest candidate to oppose Obama (with the added Paul Ryan bonus), we WILL HAVE A LOT WORSE PROBLEMS than your concerns about Mormons and a Romney presidency, I guarantee you.

I say, hold your breath and do it. It’s actually rational.

My number ONE issue is getting our country’s finances back together because we are literally on the brink of a spending Obamageddon.

If we don’t get our economic house in order, these petty religious squabbles will be irrelevant compared to what it will be like when American society collapses.

What am I missing here?


162 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:27 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Tax-chick
"Rep. Ryan looks like the older brother of.........."

Eddie Munster

163 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:32 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Sola Veritas

nail head, well said.


164 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:55 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Chief901

Our primary candidates didn’t win.

Like in sport play offs when your team loses, you route for the next best alternative in the final round.

Patriots and soldiers died to save this country. We owe them to vote for a chance to toss Obama out.

Romney has taken conservative stands during the campaign. If he “evolves”, we can hold him politically accountable.

Ryan will be at his side getting the economic reforms done. That alone is worth it.

Otherwise O will be appointing two more Marxists Lesbians to the court and driving up even more unsustainable debt that will sink the nation.


165 posted on 08/11/2012 5:49:25 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Just mythoughts

Of course, you are right. Anyone who would take notice of historical lessons is a fool, charge on and let the purges continue.


166 posted on 08/11/2012 5:50:09 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: t1b8zs

No, why?


167 posted on 08/11/2012 5:50:36 PM PDT by Lady Lucky ( 'Better than the worst' is not the same as 'good.')
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To: Williams

She could handpick Mitt Romney to run as her V.P. and I’d STILL vote for your Aunt Tilley against Obama!


168 posted on 08/11/2012 5:50:42 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: AlanGreenSpam

“What am I missing here?”


Everything. Mitt Romney is a lying socialist. The fact that he is a Mormon is just the icing on the cake.


169 posted on 08/11/2012 5:51:35 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s right, Jim, hang on to your “principled conservative” moon bats!

Lose your moderators with any integrity!


170 posted on 08/11/2012 5:52:56 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Third Person
'I’ve been called repeatedly an Obama lover and a troll for stating my opposition to Romney. It seems I’m in good company.'

Naaaaaw I'M in good company...

Top Ten Reasons To Dislike Mitt Romney:

1. Drop-dead, collar-ad handsome with gracious, statesmanlike aura. Looks like every central casting's #1 choice for Commander-in-Chief.

2. Been married to ONE woman his entire life, and has been faithful to her, including through her bouts with breast cancer and MS.

3. No scandals or skeletons in his closet. (How boring is that?)

4. Can't speak in a fake, southern, "black preacher voice" when necessary.

5. Highly intelligent. Graduated cum laude from both Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School...and by the way, his academic records are NOT sealed.

6. Doesn't smoke or drink alcohol, and has never done drugs, not even in the counter-culture age when he went to college. Too square for today's America?

7. Represents an America of "yesterday", where people believed in God, went to Church, didn't screw around, worked hard, and became a SUCCESS!

8. Has a family of five great sons....and none of them have police records or are in drug rehab. But of course, they were raised by a stay-at-home mom, and that "choice" deserves America's scorn.

9. Oh yes.....he's a MORMON. We need to be very afraid of that very strange religion that teaches its members to be clean-living, patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, and honest.

10. And one more point.....dumb asses say because of his wealth, he can't relate to ordinary Americans. I guess that's because he made that money HIMSELF.....as opposed to marrying it or inheriting it from Dad. Apparently, he didn't understand that actually working at a job and earning your own money made you unrelatable to Americans.

THE STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL, STUNNINGLY BRAINY, STUNNINGLY ARTICULATE ANNIE COULTER AGREES WITH ME. YOU KNOW THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER THE ONE WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN LAW DEGREE, LAW REVIEW AND AUTHOR OF 8 BEST SELLERS? .... LOOKS LIKE I'M IN GOOD COMPANY....AS ANN POINTS OUT MITT'S AGAINST OPEN BORDERS, OBAMACARE AND HE CAN ATTRACT ENOUGH INDEPENDENTS TO BECOME ELECTED... http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-02-22.html
171 posted on 08/11/2012 5:52:56 PM PDT by jimsin (S)
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To: GreyFriar
by agreeing to be Romney’s VP, Ryan just showed his true RINO colors. No true conservative would have agreed to be Romney’s VP

I think Paul Ryan believes what i believe - we cannot survive another four years of Obama. How could he refuse the chance to start to undo the damage Obama has caused?

Here's what I've been wondering: how will reelecting Obama get us any closer to seeing a conservative elected in 2016? By then the welfare state will have become so deeply rooted that it will be far too late.

172 posted on 08/11/2012 5:53:13 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (You didn't build it, but the private sector is doing fine.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Nothing would ever satisfy the ABR crowd.

It would satisfy me and I'm a ranking officer in the ABR corps.
173 posted on 08/11/2012 5:53:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
What you are "missing" is that you always
spin any TRUE FACTS about Mr. RomneyCARE as
"Mormon hate". You are wrong.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented DEATH PANELS.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented gay marriage without a vote.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented ObamaCARE.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE invented calling TAXES by the name "fees"
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE supported TARP.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE ruined the GOP in Mass.
We KNOW you like that.

Mr. RomneyCARE installs DNC judges.
We KNOW you like that.

What is "missing" is honesty on your part.

174 posted on 08/11/2012 5:54:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon “bigot” on FR.


I’ve seen the “Anti-Morman Bigot” accusations. They seem as hollow as the old “If you don’t support Obama it’s because you’re a racist” crap.

A handful might reject Romney purely over his religious beliefs. The vast majority reject him because he’s a perfect fit with the Liberal-Progressive platform.

Thanks for your great work and your amazing website.

God bless you.


175 posted on 08/11/2012 5:54:43 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: digital-olive

“Please don’t let this election tear us apart everyone, we are all on the same team even if we disagree here and there.”

Sorry, apparently some of us are on Team Kenya.


176 posted on 08/11/2012 5:54:52 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: AlanGreenSpam; RaisingCain

“What am I missing here?”

“Everything. Mitt Romney is a lying socialist. The fact that he is a Mormon is just the icing on the cake.”

Raising cain,
And what do you think barak hussein is??? Truth telling non-socialist???


177 posted on 08/11/2012 5:55:04 PM PDT by Chong
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, why would any non Mormon think Joseph Smith was a prophet or that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God? That part is easy.


178 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Sola Veritas
I will be voting third party for the office of POTUS this November.

David Axelrod thanks you for your firm support of the Obama Campaign. He's hoping that you will follow that up with a financial contribution, but that's not really necessary, you've done enough.

179 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Mormonism? No, that was just a behind the scenes policy squabble here on FR.

Here’s why I object to Romney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded

And if he needs MY vote to win, he’s in heap big trouble. My vote doesn’t mean squat here in California.


180 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Magic Fingers

So criticizing Palin makes him a RINO?

His having an opinion.. no real actions?

Interesting.


181 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:47 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: cripplecreek
We certainly are seeing quite a lot of this these days, aren't we...?

My typical response to all that pouty-faced banging of online sippy cups on high chair trays, in turn, is:

;)

182 posted on 08/11/2012 5:57:33 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Third Person

I don’t see anyone as an “ardent” Romney supporter.
A “Rabid” anti obama partizan yes.
We go to war with the army we have,
then we make it into the army we need
to win.

Four years of Romney could be as bad as
four years of Obama, but nowhere near as
bad as EIGHT years of Obama.

It is imperative that we win the SENATE
and keep Obama out.


183 posted on 08/11/2012 5:57:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Just mythoughts

ABO unless there is a realistic to plan to oust obama otherwise


184 posted on 08/11/2012 5:57:38 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: bramps

Maybe it’s a test.


185 posted on 08/11/2012 5:58:13 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: gorush

Romney takes a true conservative out of a position of power and sends him to foreign funerals for the next four years. Once again the conservatives get screwed!


After the end of W’s second term, reports leaked out that Cheney pressured him to stay to the right.

Maybe Ryan can do a bit more than attend foreign funerals...


186 posted on 08/11/2012 5:58:13 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: RaisingCain

So you and others are saying that if Romney gets voted in,CW2 is still on?So be it,this thread is something else.It’s like a bad marriage.


187 posted on 08/11/2012 5:59:42 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes
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To: RaisingCain

Always nice to hear from the Free Republic chapter of “Reelect Obama”. Good luck to you in November, but know that I will be on the other side.


188 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:06 PM PDT by centurion316 ( I)
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To: humblegunner
So criticizing Palin makes him a RINO?

I thought Palin was now a RINO for supporting Romney. It's hard to keep up.

189 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:08 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Chong

“Raising cain,
And what do you think barak hussein is??? Truth telling non-socialist???”


You say that as if it is some piece of data that my logic cannot work without. I do not understand how that fact negates the fact that Mitt Romney is the same thing. One would think that you, after acknowledging that Romney is a socialist, would stop and think that maybe, just maybe, what you’re fighting for is utterly futile.


190 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:37 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: cripplecreek
It would satisfy me and I'm a ranking officer in the ABR corps.

I've been around here for a while, and I'm having a hard time understanding the ABR contingent here. Could you and a few of the other ABR FReepers on the thread help me figure it out?

Here's how I see it - opposition to Romney on the right splits the vote and Obama is reelected. Then what? How do you see a second Obama term playing out, and how does that help to advance conservatism? Do you believe that a second Obama term would not be that bad?

191 posted on 08/11/2012 6:01:13 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (You didn't build it, but the private sector is doing fine.)
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To: humblegunner

“I hope it wasn’t any of the good moderators!”

Well if they were principled enough to resign for not being allowed to rein in a poster they considered a bigot I would assume they were “good” moderators.

Ryan is a superb pick because it puts the election all about what it should be about, and that is the terrible record of Obama on the economy and how to best keep the country from financial ruin.


192 posted on 08/11/2012 6:01:25 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Parley Baer
No one is big enough to save us like the EU and US will save Greece. Without a change of direction economically, you me our children and grandchildren will quickly learn what it is like to live in a third World country with no Benevolent American Hyper power to send us food aid and protect us with their Navy, Army and Marine Corps.

These are serious times. They call for serious and critical thinking. The facts are these O’Bumler has done a superb job of fundamentally changing America from a successful country to a Second World country with poor credit, a foundering economy, and a shrinking Middle-Class. He wishes to fully transform it into a third World basket case.

Vote for a third party, vote the bottom ticket, withhold your vote for Romney. O’Bumbler appreciates your efforts and is in full agreement with your conscientious decision.

193 posted on 08/11/2012 6:01:59 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: centurion316

“Always nice to hear from the Free Republic chapter of “Reelect Obama”. Good luck to you in November, but know that I will be on the other side.”


You don’t seem to understand. YOU’RE on the Free Republic chapter of Reelect Obama. See, Mitt Romney is Barack Obama after Michael Jackson surgery and a conversion from Islam to Mormonism.


194 posted on 08/11/2012 6:02:26 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: CatherineofAragon

And people rioted because they were offended he was a judgmental SOB.
You are correct Cat.


195 posted on 08/11/2012 6:02:53 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: jimsin
"1. Drop-dead, collar-ad handsome with gracious, statesmanlike aura. Looks like every central casting's #1 choice for Commander-in-Chief. "

LOL......ROFL

196 posted on 08/11/2012 6:03:50 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: gorush

The VP pretty much does what the president lets him do. I don’t think Ryan took it unless he has been assured a very active role in budget issues etc.


197 posted on 08/11/2012 6:04:01 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Jim Robinson

There are only two candidates capable of winning the presidential election. To vote for a third party candidate is utter foolishness. To not vote for one of the two major candidates is to concede your vote to the other. Neither is running for pastor, priest or rabbi.

It is neither principled nor patriotic to deny your vote to one who is clearly the better choice for America. All the woulda shoulda coulda chatter is just plain silly. It is time to grow up and play the cards dealt, not the hand we wish we had.

Otherwise, you will reelect the current President. Will that make you proud of your “principled and patriotic” stand against Romney?


198 posted on 08/11/2012 6:04:27 PM PDT by catpuppy
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To: GlockThe Vote
Obama must be psying some of the fringers

Must be the case. Bashing the 'right' because they are 'right' is a typical liberal method of operation.

199 posted on 08/11/2012 6:04:44 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: jimsin

Give me a break. Mitt’s a panderer. Mitt lies and cannot be trusted.


200 posted on 08/11/2012 6:05:05 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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