Brookline High School, 1951, top group, fifth from left, middle row.
Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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This is your MO. When you lose the argument, you resort to personal abuse. It’s ugly and drags the site down into the mud. But that’s just you, it seems.
Brookline High School, 1951, top group, fifth from left, middle row.
ROTFLOL.
Of course you love it when your side gets down in the muck and mud and wallows in personal attacks. Personal attacks have been an indispensable part of the Mal-Val cult from the beginning. It couldn’t exist without them.
| March 2, 2014 at 11:45 pm | Gosh, I’m looking where to reply….Yes Miri, I don’t remember how it is to detect lying, but I ‘ll read that…. Another thing I thought he may be doing, was reading some posted notes that are to one side of him. Notice how he stops , backtracks…pauses , then can barely get out what he want’s to say….so many notes and points he wants to get in that he scrambling it all . He could be looking over there for help . One things is for sure…this video was the first one I ever saw of him and it reassured me that this guy is another charlatan…sure he is very talented, gifted maybe, or trained heavily for some devious purposes. ….but he’s here first trying to establish himself and he’s not as smooth as the other usurper. Notice again in his comments how he seems to be trying to vie for importance in relation to obama. He’s using obama, yet at the same he’s using people humilities to gain their trust and adoration. So now we get more interviews with the likes of conservative dufuses who give him a pass and undeserved respect…I say that because he’s idealizing and idolizing China…he’s ambiguous to say the least and no one has ever questioned his motives. Seems all it takes these days is media props and a few Ghandi quotations and one can become a deity in no time…such superficial personifications are dangerous.
Who was it that was attributed with the saying I might not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!
You might find this comment of interest, I do have a copy of the changes for Ruth from Nidesand to Ndesandjo that Sally Jacobs placed on wiki a few days before her book release...so most of what we think we know is due to Sally, who sat on the UNREDACTED INS docs for two years...
sorry, miscounted, that should have been ‘sixth person from left, middle row.
Thanks for all those links. Seems others think along the same line. I didn’t know that an original fable was that Ruth went to Harvard. It almost seems as if these sons know little or nothing about their mothers and then must correct their “memories” as facts are dug up.
Why the need to truncate the memo so that the name of the MISS DUN or MISS DAN is obscured? And who thinks about an adoption in APRIL for a child yet to be born in August?
The W.T.P.O.T.U.S. blog continues:
Ms. Jacobs says that the memo reads, “got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dun…”
Might it really say, “got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ before they were married they do not live together and Miss D…”?
Or “got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ so they never were married they do not live together and Miss D…”
Punctuation is required but missing in all possible versions. Notice how Miss D, whoever she is, appears to be the subject of the rest of the sentence, about how she “is making arrangements” with the Salvation Army. But is that the correct transcription?
Does “is making arrangements” fit on that line? Doesn’t seem so to me. Might it say, “made arrangements?” In which case, it was a done deal?
So what did Miss D do with the Salvation Army? Although the story spins this as if it’s BHO’s doing, Miss D is the person making the arrangements to give the child up. Does this fit with the meme of Stanley Ann Dunham (Ann Obama or MRS. Obama) being a strong type who would not be coerced by anyone, but who would bravely keep her bi-racial child? Doesn’t sound like to me.
Miss D? Could this story at WND provide a clue? Their expert points out that the mother’s signature on Obama’s LFCOLB is in two layers: “(Stanley Ann) D” and “unham Obama”.
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Pertinant questions all, and while we on FR are throwing insults at each other, that little band of researchers are looking at the details other miss.
All that was needed to make Stanley Ann Dunham on the forged LFBC was to add 'unham Obama' and Stanley in brackets, to ANN D...
And the date of that birth information submitted to the local registrar just happened to be the same date that Virginia’s death announcement appeared in the Honolulu newspaper.
If there was any kind of birth certificate with SAD’s name on it, they would not have had to do the chop job. It’s quite simple. They could have just lifted the whole name if they needed to forge it for some reason other than the wrong parent/s.
I’m under the impression that’s why there were a number of layers. The end result is an amalgamation of a number of items that came before it.
Like a birth record for the child that Mary baby-sat in January, 1961.
And nowhere was there a complete signature of Stanley Ann Dunham or Stanley Ann Dunham Obama.
Thus, it could be interpreted, as Onaka may have done (on an unsigned, though initialled ‘verification’) that certain items ‘match’. They ‘match’ something on file for the birth of a child to Ann S Obama, who was listed in the Polk in 1961, and who wasn’t the Dunham daughter.
A student renting a room, while the kenyan lived in his little dump elsewhere, that fits.
And somewhere there’s a document on file that does have Stanley Ann Dunham’s signature on it. The lodgement of the application for divorce document might be the one. That would be the only thing she ever signed as Stanley Ann Dunham Obama.
The missing page 11 possibly showed the attachment of TWO items of evidence:
1. A fake marriage licence
2. A fake birth certificate.
Well, that’s IF it was Stanley Ann Dunham who actually divorced the father of the child we know as BHO2. It might have been the mother, and the document we see has been suitably doctored. It’s an Alice-Through-The-Looking-Glass-World, after all.
The more we see, the less we can believe.
thats what i was thinking to fred-
i mean little J- sorry
I’ll say it again:
Half the truth is often a great lie. - Benjamin Franklin
Especially when the “other half” is 100% made up, the truth part is just there as camouflage. Or in the case of Zero’s “life”, a lot less than half is truth.
Perplexing.
ANN OBAMA might just be the only constant. Ann S Obama was the name of the student listed in the Polk.
How is that possible?
How could SAD (she is not his mother...) sign her own birth certificate? Am I misunderstanding something?
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