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Ron Paul: Questions That Won't Be Asked About Iraq
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| 10 Sept 02
| Dr. Ron Paul
Posted on 09/10/2002 12:57:09 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: *Ron Paul List; madfly
To: Austin Willard Wright
This is why it lays out a specific procedure for declaring wa! Oh? What "specific procedure" is that?
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09/10/2002 2:01:33 PM PDT
by
Roscoe
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To: one_particular_harbour
Isn't it interesting that this attitude of "wait" can be seriously debated while at this very moment we are doing our best to anticipate what our enemies, seen and unseen, are plotting against us this week?
I'm not foolish enough to not understand that there are negatives to going into Iraq, but the alternatives seem to be worse and it seems a choice has to be made.
Not to be trite, but "BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY".
At this point, it is hardly arguable that it's a matter of when, not if, Hussein has the capability of delivering nuclear disaster upon us. It's a chance not worth taking, IMO.
To: Free the USA; muggs; Jeff Head; the irate magistrate; Michael Gallutia; upchuck; RonPaulLives
Ron Paul bump!
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To: Roscoe
I didn't correct it because I thought that folks would be able to figure out the typo. I guess that there are always expections so I will correct it for you: war.
To: Poohbah; AppyPappy
One problem: Iraq was
not involved in the 9/11 attacks. How do we know? Because after the attacks, the Bush administration contacted the Taliban government, declared that bin Laden and his al-Qaida were culpable, and demanded his extradition. The Taliban asked for evidence--an awkward request, since the evidence showed rather detailed foreknowledge by the US government of a planned attack by al-Qaida.
Now that the al-Qaida are dead or hiding in Karachi safe-houses, Bush has to find another candidate for the Two Minute Hate.
To: one_particular_harbour; Poohbah
Excellent replies.
To: one_particular_harbour
Funny I just got something from Ron Paul, and I thought about mailing it back in....I guess I'll just throw it away.
To: Austin Willard Wright
Straw men, like "suicide pact," have been used by all enemies of the Constitution. living document?
To: Austin Willard Wright
I didn't correct it because I thought that folks would be able to figure out the typo. I guess that there are always expections so I will correct it for you: war. What "specific procedure?"
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posted on
09/10/2002 2:07:08 PM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: Zviadist
Anybody got any popcorn? This is gonna turn into a good one...
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posted on
09/10/2002 2:07:27 PM PDT
by
mhking
To: SteamshipTime
One problem: your arguments are BS from beginning to end.
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posted on
09/10/2002 2:07:44 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: Zviadist
If we "won" the Gulf War, why are we talking about going back in, genius? Because in retrospect over the last 12 years, we have now determined that the original objectives of the Gulf War -- the liberation of Kuwait and smacking down of Saddam Hussein -- by which we conclusively won in only 100 days's time -- should have been replaced by complete removal of the Hussein regime -- dumb$***.
Only a true dumb@ss would contend that we didn't win the Gulf War, and start name-calling against someone who merely pointed out the obvious. Thank you for revealing your stripes, sir.
And if Afghanistan is "won", why have all the al-Qaeda gotten away and why are our servicemen playing guard duty with the Afghani "president"? You call this victory? Sounds like something the French would say.
Have all the al-Qaeda gotten away? Really? Are they and the Taliban still in charge of Afghanistan? Really? I'm sure the hundreds of prisoners in Cuba, as well as the current President of Afghanistan, and the thousands of Taliban fighters buried in the ground and in Afghan caves, will be very interested in this bit of news. Why don't you go tell them?
I'd hate to have you be in charge of a war.
I'd hate to have you in charge of a go-kart.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"Better safe than sorry." Well, I suppose this could, and has, been used to justify any violation of constitutional rights. Heck, why not create an even safer society and officially abolish this 213 year old document with its antiquated restrictions and unrealistic rules.
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To: Senator Pardek
Was that a formal declaration of war? There are many here who would disagree...It was an authorization for the use of force, consistent with the war powers act (which itself it unconstitutional, but that is a different issue).
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posted on
09/10/2002 2:09:11 PM PDT
by
Zviadist
To: AppyPappy
GW BushShow me where Bush has claimed that Saddam was behind 9/11.
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posted on
09/10/2002 2:09:50 PM PDT
by
Zviadist
To: Zviadist
Agree with your assessment that we didn't have a clear-cut "win" in The Gulf War, as well as Afghanistan. But overall, the merits of attacking Iraq will win the day. Attacking a weaker opponent is just sound military policy by the way, one of the pricinples of war (Mass). The bigger problem is this - Around the world the US military is increasingly being seen as a bunch of pussies. I hate to say it, but it's true. This is not the fault of our troops mind you, it is the leadership. As soon as we get our nose a little bloody, we turn tail. I'm speaking from 8 years of experience as a active duty captain in the army. The terrorists know this. That is why we have to show some sack now. We need to show the world we're not going to take any more shit. Taking out Saddam is a good start. We may plant a few thousand troops, but it's worth it. My only fear is that we lose a few jets, a SEAL team, or a company of Rangers, and the administration wimps out again (see Somalia) The Arab world needs to know we mean business. That a good enough reason for me.
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