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Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?
09/21/02 | Libloather

Posted on 09/21/2002 5:49:50 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

He didn't sell it, so it had to be smoking it.

Your exercise in symantics is stupid.


451 posted on 07/02/2005 5:06:55 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Poser
He didn't sell it, so it had to be smoking it.

So you don't know the specifics. Why post anything, let alone a false claim?

Your exercise in symantics is stupid.

Too many Liberteen idiots claim that MILLIONS (maybe BILLIONS) of other idiots are imprisoned for smoking pot - when, in fact, NONE are - because smoking pot isn't a crime. Thanks for your contribution...

452 posted on 07/02/2005 5:18:38 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Libloather
To smoke pot, you must posses pot. There is no difference between the two from a legal point of view.

Arguing over semantics makes you look pretty silly.
453 posted on 07/02/2005 6:46:36 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Poser
To smoke pot, you must posses pot.

To smoke pot, you must 'posses' a match. No one person - before you, or after you - has EVER gone to prison for that.

How much pot did your perp friend 'posses' while the cuffs went on? (My wild guess - 18 months worth...)

454 posted on 07/02/2005 6:56:23 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: outlaw1_2003
the law against being stoned is called PI or DUI if you are operatong a vhicle. States have passed amendments that include any intoxicants, which include pot.

...and by the way, extending DUI to marijuana is unscientific malarky. The NTSB, and the Calif. Hwy Patrol both ran extensive controlled experiments on stoned drivers to try to metricize the blood stream level that could be deemed DUI. No such levels were found. No matter how stoned the stoned drivers got, they still outperformed their control counterparts on a large percentage of the tests. Turns out that while marijuana produces a slight temporary reduction of short-term memory, it compensates by making users more attentive to the moment, and memory isn't as useful to drivers as attentiveness.

If you'd like to test this report, try asking a cop what the exact level of cannabanoids in the blood stream is that consititues DUI--the answer will be: ANY. Pretty remarkable, eh, given that they did extensive testing to establish exactly that. Just another example of what brazen, out-and-out thugs the drug warriors are.

455 posted on 07/02/2005 7:38:13 PM PDT by donh
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To: Libloather
To smoke pot, you must 'posses' a match. No one person - before you, or after you - has EVER gone to prison for that.

Except for, I'll guesstimate, a couple of hundred arsonists.

456 posted on 07/02/2005 7:45:25 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh
There's a law against driving while asleep, that does not automatically make sleeping a crime. There is no law against being stoned...

In certain circumstances, yes, it is against the law. Care to tell us what circumstances they might be?

457 posted on 07/02/2005 8:12:26 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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458 posted on 07/02/2005 8:14:20 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Libloather
In certain circumstances, yes, it is against the law. Care to tell us what circumstances they might be?

In certain circumstances, it is a crime to carry a gun, but that does not make carrying a gun, per se, illegal. We already talked about being asleep. Being stoned, per se, is not a crime in this country. "Certain circumstances" and "per se", do not delineate overlapping events, even if you hold your breath until you turn blue.

459 posted on 07/02/2005 8:19:10 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh; Poser
Being stoned, per se, is not a crime in this country.

Poser, you gettin' any of this? And your perp friend went to prison for what - again?

460 posted on 07/02/2005 8:22:58 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Libloather
Poser, you gettin' any of this? And your perp friend went to prison for what - again?

He undoubtedly went to jail for possession, if he had a mind-bogglingly miniscule amount on him, or more likely, possession with intent to distribute, if he had enough on him to last a week or more. What thrills you so about this distinction?. On the available scientific evidence, it makes more sense to put someone in jail for possession of turkey eggs, than it does of marijuana. Unlike the case with turkey eggs, the consumption of marijuana has virtually no clinical record of causing significant harm to anyone.

461 posted on 07/02/2005 10:34:59 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh; Poser
He undoubtedly went to jail for possession...

You know that - but Poser doesn't? Can you folks PLEASE get together with the evidence prior to making fools of yourselves? The World-Wide-Web sure would appreciate it...

462 posted on 07/02/2005 10:51:01 PM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Libloather
"I meant Liberteen. Thanks for noticing...

There's no such word. Do you care to define your terms or is that asking for more intellectual rigor than you can manage?

463 posted on 07/03/2005 5:11:09 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: donh

I vaguely remember, some two or more decades ago, what our criteria was when we got stoned. Didn't have to worry about wrecking, killing someone, or doing major damage to someone's vehicle, for you didn't exceed 35 mph's.
After while, go to my place, put on some Stones, Blue Oyster Cult, or Pink Floyd, kick back and rock. Munchies meant a trip to Dairy Queen for a "hot fudge cake." Yep, brings back some memories from deep with in the vault of memories. Those were the days, when even the cops would party with you.


464 posted on 07/03/2005 6:00:58 AM PDT by outlaw1_2003
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To: muir_redwoods
There's no such word.

Sure there is. You saw it in post #1 and have copied and pasted it - twice. Your assistance in it's distribution is greatly appreciated.

465 posted on 07/03/2005 6:43:51 AM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: Libloather

Have a grownup check your medication for you


466 posted on 07/03/2005 6:53:57 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Libloather

Smoking pot. He had one joint and was smoking it in his car. The cop saw him smoking it and arrested him. One joint, 18 months.


467 posted on 07/03/2005 6:54:03 AM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Libloather
Can anyone provide any proof either way?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

While I can't provide the references, the historical accounts I've read say that prior to federal prohibition, there were a few state and local laws against smoking marijuana. Phohibition of possession wouldn't have been practical, since hemp was still commonly grown as a commodity crop. I shouldn't think it unreasonable to assume that there were some successful prosecutions and incarcerations for violations of those laws.

468 posted on 07/03/2005 7:06:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Libloather
You know that - but Poser doesn't? Can you folks PLEASE get together with the evidence prior to making fools of yourselves? The World-Wide-Web sure would appreciate it...

Consider addressing the concern that putting people in jail for either posession OR being high is still iniquiteous in either case. One can almost always rely on prohibitionists to hide in some pointless nitpicking corner, rather than address the non-existence of a scientific basis for pot prohibition.

469 posted on 07/03/2005 7:13:20 AM PDT by donh
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To: Libloather
Sure there is. You saw it in post #1 and have copied and pasted it - twice. Your assistance in it's distribution is greatly appreciated.

"Libertine", NOT "liberteen". You give the appearance of a kid with severe Attention Deficit Disorder. Do you ever respond to the meat of an argument, or does your entire argument consist of baiting anyone who disagrees with you?

470 posted on 07/03/2005 7:21:17 AM PDT by donh
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To: donh; muir_redwoods
"Libertine", NOT "liberteen". You give the appearance of a kid with severe Attention Deficit Disorder.

You're getting warmer...

471 posted on 07/03/2005 7:26:31 AM PDT by Libloather (I trust Hillary as far as I can throw her...)
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To: donh

donh,

Let's not waste any more time with this individual, it's likely that he has been standing too close to a microwave oven with a bad seal


472 posted on 07/03/2005 7:44:14 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods

It does seem to be some manner of malsentience.


473 posted on 07/03/2005 7:57:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I suspect serious advanced cornfusculation or perhaps chemically induced malaboronation.

Ah well, as Twain once said, "Never blame on malice what you can explain with stupidity"

474 posted on 07/03/2005 8:06:01 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods

Beeber might be stuned, too. Without a coherent moose/cheese index it's hard to tell.


475 posted on 07/03/2005 8:33:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Libloather

yes


476 posted on 07/03/2005 8:34:53 AM PDT by bigsigh
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To: tacticalogic
While I can't provide the references, the historical accounts I've read say that prior to federal prohibition, there were a few state and local laws against smoking marijuana.

See "Licit and Illicit Drugs", by the Editors of the Consumer's Union, an extremely well-sourced, and well-regarded academic resource. Without federal prodding, there would probably never have been state laws regarding marijuana--it was too far below the radar for anyone to be interested before the feds started looking for new crimes to invent.

Phohibition of possession wouldn't have been practical, since hemp was still commonly grown as a commodity crop. I shouldn't think it unreasonable to assume that there were some successful prosecutions and incarcerations for violations of those laws.

Medical marijuana was regarded as about the same as aspirin is now, until the mid 1920's. The really astonishing thing about this period, is that it required an amendment to the Constitution to ban alcohol, whose detrimental nature is plain, whereas to ban marijuana, all Anslinger had to do was make up a bunch of racist stories about how you "cain't stop them spics and nigras from raping white women while hyped up on Marijuana with a 45". And tell these stories to a Senate committee, which later reported these stories, and NOT the AMA's strong objections, to the full Senate before the vote. The transcript of these hearings is about the most unshamefully racist document to be produced by our government in the 20th century. The war on marijuana started with deeply fraudulant testimony, and has been maintained by fraudulant testimony ever since.

477 posted on 07/03/2005 8:24:02 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh
The war on marijuana started with deeply fraudulant testimony, and has been maintained by fraudulant testimony ever since.

The deceptions started before the first testimony was even heard. Why name the bill the "Marijuana Tax Act" at a time when very few people had ever heard the term, but virtually everyone knew what "hemp" or "cannabis" were? If you want people to know what you're talking about, you refer to it by terms they are familiar with. The only reason to adopt terminology they are unfamiliar with to refer to something they are familiar with is if you have something to hide.

478 posted on 07/04/2005 1:35:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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