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Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?
09/21/02 | Libloather

Posted on 09/21/2002 5:49:50 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather
I'm guessing it's because of the wine. What kind are you having?

I'll have the chef's pick, garçon.

51 posted on 09/21/2002 6:42:09 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: rintense
My brother was- but that's only because he chose to smoke pot and then drive his motorcycle into a police car. Dumbass.

And what was brother Dumbass charged with?

52 posted on 09/21/2002 6:42:39 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Better guestion

Has an inocent person ever had their life destroyed by the unconstitutional WO some drugs?

53 posted on 09/21/2002 6:43:04 PM PDT by thepitts
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To: thepitts
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54 posted on 09/21/2002 6:43:37 PM PDT by thepitts
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To: AzJP
You have proof of such an entity as a "Liberteen"? (A freedom lover under twenty yet older than twelve?)

That's the best definition of "liberteen" I've seen on FR.

55 posted on 09/21/2002 6:43:40 PM PDT by Mark Turbo
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To: Texasforever; eddie willers
How much must you have in your possesion to fire up one joint?

With or without a roach clip?

56 posted on 09/21/2002 6:43:50 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Libloather
In California, possession of marijuana in any quantity is not a felony, but a misdemeanor. In addition, there is no arrest as long as the quantity is an ounce or less and the offender has ID and promises to appear before the court. Then at most it's a hundred dollar fine. It's been that way for the past 29 years.
58 posted on 09/21/2002 6:45:09 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: thepitts
Better guestion...

No - even better guestion - what kind are you havin'?

59 posted on 09/21/2002 6:45:18 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
When that become relevant, I'll let you know...

Hmmm. Let me grace you with another irrelevancy... in putting someone down, one should use proper grammar.

60 posted on 09/21/2002 6:45:24 PM PDT by Oberon
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To: Libloather

Perjury? Thousands? List 'em...

No silly. Please try to stay on the topic of the thread you started.

Since you changed the subject. Nor was I talking about Bill boinking Hillary,,, or Monica, which he never did have sexual relations with. And when I look closely at a picture of Vince Foster and then at Chelsea, I wonder if Bill boinked Hillary.

61 posted on 09/21/2002 6:45:49 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Libloather
Not too sure. He spent a few nights in jail until his girlfriend bailed him out. I believe it was something like operating a vehicle under the influence of an illegal substance, and of course, reckless endangerment, destroying police property, etc... Of course, he had priors...
62 posted on 09/21/2002 6:46:10 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Senator Pardek
Mexican Stinkweed or Maui Wowie?
63 posted on 09/21/2002 6:46:58 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Ed B.
Texas


Possession of Marijuana
2oz. or less: Class B Misdemeanor
4oz. or less but more than 2 oz.: Class A misdemeanor
5lbs. or less but more than 4 oz.: State Jail felony
50lbs. or less but more than 5 lbs.: 3rd degree felony
2000lbs or less but more than 50 lbs.: 2nd degree felony
More than 2000 lbs.: 5-99 years or life and up to $50,000 fine
64 posted on 09/21/2002 6:47:47 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Libloather
James Geddes. 90 year sentence in Oklahoma because he was a frequent visitor to a home where a friend was growing five marijuana plants. Eventually it was reduced to five years.

http://www.adoptagreenprisoner.org/JamesGeddesStory.htm
65 posted on 09/21/2002 6:49:16 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: eddie willers
Depends upon your NAFTA stance.
67 posted on 09/21/2002 6:50:37 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek; Libloather
Possession of a single joint got a Danville Virginia man thirty years in the penitentary in the 1970's.

68 posted on 09/21/2002 6:51:16 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: Oberon
When that become relevant, I'll let you know...

Hmmm. Let me grace you with another irrelevancy... in putting someone down, one should use proper grammar.

I know - I blew it. When your post become relevant, I'll let you know - eh?

69 posted on 09/21/2002 6:51:37 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Ed B.
WOW! That IS reffer madness -- insane.
70 posted on 09/21/2002 6:52:22 PM PDT by Zon
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To: edwin hubble
Right, but that's possession (he must have been a murdering dealer!)
71 posted on 09/21/2002 6:52:57 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Ed B.
Then you did not read my first response to you.
72 posted on 09/21/2002 6:53:18 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: edwin hubble
Possession of a single joint got a Danville Virginia man thirty years in the penitentary in the 1970's.

Doesn't fit the description of the question. Sorry. Please, try again...

73 posted on 09/21/2002 6:54:34 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Kevin Curry
Harry Anslinger especially targeted black musician users for federal jail until one of our presidents told him to cut it the hell out.

The Marxists are still using that example in black neighborhoods to stir up strife and resistence against "The Man."

That doesn't make Harry Anslinger any less of an asshole, and if "the man" can't acknowledge blatant racist laws and do something about them, other than gloat, than "the man" deserves all the strife and resistence that can be brought to bear.

75 posted on 09/21/2002 6:55:48 PM PDT by donh
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To: Libloather
I had no argument. I made a comment.

If you want to extrapolate you could if you wanted start championing that people should be imprisoned for buying and selling bird seed that has hemp seeds in it.

76 posted on 09/21/2002 6:56:04 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Ed B.
Interesting post from a pro-dope site. Now where are all the stats, or at least the anecdotal horror stories, evidencing that such draconian sentences were imposed?

It could very well be that in decades past people spent years in prison in some states for possession of marijauna. It would have been rare, and is even rarer (nonexistent) today.

It wasn't too long ago that rape and horse-theft were punishable by death in many states. In fact, in the America of the late 19th Century--a time most pro-dopers remember fondly as the time of great libertarian freedom--there were many, many extremely harsh laws on the books that punished behavior that libertarians cherish today as unalienable rights, e.g., sodomy, adultery, even keeping a business open on Sundays. About the only thing desirable (from a pro-dope point-of-view) was that you could get fried on opium (laudunum), and whacky-tabacky wasn't really on anyone's radar screen yet.

To return to the point of this thread, the army of millions of suffering prisoners-for-dope-alone is an illusion created by pro-dope agitators.

77 posted on 09/21/2002 6:58:09 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: donh
Any argument made by a Marxist is suspect. I no more trust your Marxist/Lib Dem-derived version of facts than I do Clinton's protestations that he never inhaled.

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus.

78 posted on 09/21/2002 7:01:05 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Libloather; Hillary's Lovely Legs
the Wall - http://mir.drugtext.org/november/wall.html

This sight has the 'prisoners of the war on drugs' and their stories. Some seem stories sad, others cruel, others were obviously dealing.

80 posted on 09/21/2002 7:04:37 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: CWOJackson

The quote that ("Trafficking" includes "possession with intent to distribute.") is totally misleading regardless of it’s source.

The difference between possession and possession with intent to distribute is determined by weight in possession. The difference between possession/possession with intent varies widely across the nation. In some large metropolitan counties with multiple jurisdictions, it’s not uncommon for there to be five or more weight standards defining possession with intent (on this block it’s simple possession, go down three blocks it’s possession with intent).

With very, very few exceptions, possession is a simple misdemeanor no different then jay walking. Very few people spent any significant jail time for this level of misdemeanor. Now, possession with intent to distribute, or in some jurisdictions in a school zone, becomes gross misdemeanor or felony; again, this is usually determined by amount and circumstances.

To say that there are this many people presently incarcerated for simple possession is either ludicrous or they are all confined to a couple of jurisdictions somewhere that no one’s ever heard of.

Dood, please answer the question - Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?

81 posted on 09/21/2002 7:06:50 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?

Has anyone made that claim?

84 posted on 09/21/2002 7:08:35 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Libloather
having fun with semantics I see.

"As far as I know, ironically, there is no law that prohibits smoking marijuana."

smoking is the verb, marijuana is the noun, and the object of the verb. Possession of this object is predicated on the verb.

it is not illegal to smoke (or eat) banana peels, and none ever claimed it was. Thus, you initial premise "the Liberteens paint an entirely different picture. They claim that HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS are behind bars for smoking."

is just silly. Not true, never happened, and is whats known as a "straw-man argument".

Wanna try again? Please don't... that was lame.

85 posted on 09/21/2002 7:09:46 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: Ed B.
Gravely concerned about the plight of our would-be hemp farmers and industrialists, are you?

Yes, industrial hemp is one of the great economic issues of the age. I can well imagine why thusands if not millions of Americans would want to march on Washington to plead for the freedom of our hemp farmers.

I spend hours each week disucussing with my kids the many productive uses for hemp. They are bewildered that such an important crop would be on the federal blacklist. "Dad," my ten year-old asks, "Why do the statists deny me the right to purchase quality hemp? I can think of a lot of fun and completely legal things I could do with, say, 60 pounds of hemp and a magnifying glass. But instead I have to play with this boring Saturn Playstation. It just isn't right Dad. It just isn't fair."

Sadly, I have no answer for him. Maybe Ayn Rand does. I shall go back and re-read "Atlas Shrugged" for fresh insights.

86 posted on 09/21/2002 7:13:08 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Libloather
FWIW, I knew a couple of guys from HS that had just turned 18 and got caught in, or I should say ON Hampton Beach, NH. Mid '70s. Came close.

The reefer madness took hold of one. He went on to law school. Then to prison. Embezzlement. Needed to pay for his cocaine madness.

87 posted on 09/21/2002 7:13:21 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Ed B.
YES. My nephews, for one example. See my post in this thread.

I didn't read of anyone smoking anything. You got some more stories?

88 posted on 09/21/2002 7:14:01 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Ed B.
I have 2 nephews that did 11 months and 29 days in a Nashville jail in the early 80's for that very offense.

So you know of two who spent less than a year in jail (not prison). That's hardly "tons."

And rather than take your claim at face value I would like to review the record of trial and see the whole story. I wager there is more stink to their story than you're letting on.

89 posted on 09/21/2002 7:17:56 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Senator Pardek; tpaine; realpatriot71
Has anyone made that claim?

tpaine has, as has realpatriot71, unless you were only asking for rational, credible sources. ;)

90 posted on 09/21/2002 7:18:08 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: CapandBall
Wanna try again? Please don't... that was lame.

The question is - Has ANYONE ever been imprisoned for smoking pot?

Do you have an answer? (Careful - the entire Liberteen society hinges on your opinion...)

91 posted on 09/21/2002 7:18:18 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Calvin Locke; Zon; KDD; Wolfie
The reefer madness took hold of one. He went on to law school. Then to prison. Embezzlement. Needed to pay for his cocaine madness.

Reefer madness? That fiction in the Liberteen world - eh, boys?

93 posted on 09/21/2002 7:30:55 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Then you are incredibly ignorant.
95 posted on 09/21/2002 7:34:31 PM PDT by WackyKat
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To: Ed B.
It would be cheaper for you to stop wasting bandwidth - no?
96 posted on 09/21/2002 7:34:31 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: WackyKat
Then you are incredibly ignorant.

About what? Your habit?

98 posted on 09/21/2002 7:35:45 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
I know - I blew it. When your post become relevant, I'll let you know - eh?

No need for that. You go work on it, and we'll let your eventual mastery of subject-verb agreement be your private little triumph.

Hopefully.

99 posted on 09/21/2002 7:36:23 PM PDT by Oberon
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To: Ed B.
...a hope for the black race...

You got any other hope for the black race?

100 posted on 09/21/2002 7:39:35 PM PDT by Libloather
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