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Can You Help America?
Self ^ | 11/30/2002 | B4Ranch

Posted on 11/30/2002 8:03:21 AM PST by B4Ranch

Can You Help America?

Are you willing to give five minutes or more of your time to think about a solution to a very costly problem that exists in every State in the Union?

If you listen to Rush Limbaugh on TV or on his radio show, you will hear him discuss how dumb and ineffective Democrats can be. He has been saying that the Democrats are only good at whining about problems, not at fixing problems. Rush says the Republicans are the only party that actually fixes problems. Do you believe this? is overflowing with Republicans isn't it? I propose that the Republican FReepers attempt to find a solution to this major problem and demonstrate to America just how effective Republicans (and FReepers) can be.

In the early 1960s, approximately 62,000 illegal aliens came across the Mexican border, and the INS considered this notable and worthy of action. Now, in the first decade of the 21st Century, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens enter the United States across the Mexican border each year and the INS declares the problem too big to tackle because nothings stems the tide. Federal immigration laws state that sneaking into America without going through the INS Border Patrol stations is illegal. Hiring an illegal alien is illegal. Sheltering an illegal alien is illegal. And keeping knowledge from law enforcement as to the whereabouts of an illegal alien is illegal. With Agenda 21, the politicians are looking at every way possible to give those who break these laws a pass by granting amnesty and American citizenship to illegal immigrants. Agenda 21 means effectively removing the borders between Mexico and the US. NAFTA just opened our roads to tractor trailers from Mexico. This situation will become much worse.

This problem has been ignored in just about every city and county in America while costing exorbitant amounts of taxpayer dollars, spent on social welfare and the education of illegal aliens. Ignoring this problem also comes with the cost of an increasing crime rate resulting in too many American citizens being victims at the hands of illegal aliens. Governments at all levels, federal, state and local are not protecting America's federal nor State sovereignty,. nor are they protecting American citizens.

Why should you and I support a federal lawbreaker in our State? So an incumbent politician can get reelected with their illegal vote? I don't think so!

Matricula consular identification cards are solid identification of an illegal allien. If you can't show a birth certificate, a Visa or a green card then you are an illegal alien who has broken our immigration laws. They must leave America and reenter within our laws. We shouldn't have to amend our laws to accommidate lawbreakers! What example does that set for those who are attempting to enter America legally? Much more important: What example does this give our children? That breaking the law can be a rewarding act? If our immigration laws carry no penalty for being broken, why should bank robbery, or molesting children be punished? Do we make our laws for them to be ignored by aliens and politicians? Is a vote more precious than our standards and ideals? Our politicians must believe so, judging from their responses.

The words "protect the people" are found in virtually every Oath of Office taken by elected and appointed officials in the US, including the police chiefs, mayors, county sheriffs, state legislators, governors, congressional representatives, and senators. Sadly, not one of these officials on the public dole is taking their Oath of Office seriously when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration.

The Supreme Court of the United States has wisely ruled that the Feds cannot force state, county or city law enforcement officers to enforce federal laws (including immigration laws), and our local and state officials use this as an excuse to turn their heads on the problem of illegal immigration while our communities slide steadily downhill. Government officials continue to demand higher taxes to keep the illegal immigration problems under "control" yet we can only sit back in wonderment as they pay lip service to the problem while actually enacting legislation and policies that encourage people to emigrate to the US illegally with promises of social welfare and education benefits.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us - being a proud American is based on the idea of freedom and self-reliance. We are all immigrants from one country or another, and we (or our forebears) became Americans by consciously subscribing to these ideas. We came here legally, we obey the laws and we promote the idea that others obey the laws in the same way. Are we supposed to sit and wait while the political class comes up with the politically correct so-called solutions that fail to keep America strong and our families safe?

How many foreign college students choose each year to stay in America rather than obey the conditions upon which they entered America? How many older vistors choose to stay at the end of their vacations? How many deported criminal aliens return using a different name? How many Muslims are in America illegally studing our open way of life, just waiting for an opportunity to repeat 9/11? I am sure we have illegal aliens from every country in this world enjoying the American lifestyle, helping to bring us down to a third world power. We aren't too far from becoming the country that these people left. The American culture can only absorb so many new residents each year without radical changes. We have passed that number. We must act now before the policical leaders offer them amnesty and permanently defeat our way of life. The time has come to stand up and fight for what we believe in. The Constitution will become wastepaper. The Bill of Rights will become a memory. Our flag will become a symbol of defeat.

If you have listened to Rush, you know the truth of his broadcasts. If you haven't listened to him, here's an opportunity for you to show how good FReeper Republicans can be at finding solutions to our nationwide illegal immigration problems.

So tell us, what should be done to fix the problems of illegal immigration in your community?

#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?

#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?

#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?

#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?

#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?

What should YOU do?
What should WE do?

It is time to stand together to correct this problem. You are the leader in your family. Your kids look to you to protect them. If you don't help us now, will your children be able to look at you with pride or shame in five years. It's your freedom and your way of life that is up for grabs.

It's your choice, you decide what to do before it is too late.



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To: B4Ranch
21 posted on 11/30/2002 8:41:14 AM PST by Jael
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To: A&P_Keeps_'em_Flying; AirmanAlaska; AKbear; ak_rayhoo; ALASKA; AlaskaErik; ...
22 posted on 11/30/2002 8:41:34 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: MistyCA
Sorry but the cards are stacked in favor of electors electing politicians who won't address the problem . . . ever.

All the illegals are flocking in to take low-paying jobs while better-paying jobs are diminishing in this country every year.

I'm sorry I come across as defeatist, but that's the way I see it.

And I'm not sure it is morally ethical to keep them out, even though I don't like what is happening in this country.

Sooner or later the economic bubble will burst because it has been propped up artificially for too long. Then what?

23 posted on 11/30/2002 8:42:43 AM PST by Aliska
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To: constitution
We need YOUR help. Please stay around and PUSH this around the country, into every newspaper and magazine that you can find a link to. Get it on the radio and get the results back here so that we can get to work saving AMERICA.
24 posted on 11/30/2002 8:44:38 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Aliska
Then what?


25 posted on 11/30/2002 8:46:02 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
We are the VOTERS! We are the ones who MUST decide what happens in America!
26 posted on 11/30/2002 8:47:21 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Aliska
We are only asking that existing laws be enforced.
There is only one legitimate reason for govts, and that is to protect the people from external threats.
27 posted on 11/30/2002 8:49:27 AM PST by constitution
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To: B4Ranch
28 posted on 11/30/2002 8:55:43 AM PST by constitution
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29 posted on 11/30/2002 9:00:07 AM PST by B4Ranch
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30 posted on 11/30/2002 9:07:58 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
31 posted on 11/30/2002 9:08:07 AM PST by watcher1
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Are you familiar with
32 posted on 11/30/2002 9:24:47 AM PST by Brad C.
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To: B4Ranch; Arthur Wildfire! March; eccentric; MistyCA; constitution; Aliska; Ragin1; ...
I have been in several industrial situations now, where something like the following scenario plays out:

The demand cycle heats up. Need new line workers. Union start rate 15-18/per hr. + benefits after 3 months.

Hire trainees. Local HS Grads and street corner loafers. they have, I have observed: (A)No physical ability, i.e. an 8-hour day is killer! (b) No reading and writing ability which translates into a profound inability to follow written instructions (c)No shift discipline, i.e. ability to show upn time for shift or 5 0r 6 days in a row. (D) It also goes without saying that they have had no mechanical training, which gave older workers a modicum of industrial "common sense." They in some cases must be tiaught to use a screwdriver, and the accident rates among new hires are very high.

Out of 30 or 40 hired, 3 or four make it through 90 days. Older workers take up slack and love it for the overtime.

Slow-down after 3rd quarter. Sack all the new people who are left. High pay, low productivity. Cheaper to pay old-timers (heavy attrition among them anyway) who are left, some overtime.

Next time the cycle heats up, managers hire temporary workers: $10-13 an hour paid to an agency, no benefits. In many New England scenarios, these new temps are going to be illegal Mexicans, or equivalent. The fact that they cannot speak English at first or not read and write is no more of a supervisory problem than using HS Grads. They will be on time. They will work a full week. Come next cycle, throw'em out. Start over when you need them.

Sooner or later, some corporate people logically deduce that it would be cheaper to build a maquiladora on the South Side of the border and leave it closed three months a year.

Soon there is no work in the village and we are left with a huge illegal population and every one is poor. It comes as a shock to the union jocks who gave in to a two-tier wage system: i.e. Good wages for them and benefits: Poor wages and no benefits for temps.

Pardon the condensation, but the pattern is the same all over New England. This country, if my region and experience are valid examples, is not ready for globalization. Our younger people are not properly prepared.

We desperately need to improve the preparation of our "MTV" people, in school and on the job with a training wage setup so employers can afford to train them for a couple of years. They need it. They are simply not prepared mentally or physically, to perform in a business setting.

Because of the short-comings of today's younger people (which is certainly NOT THEIR FAULT), illegal aliens (now instantly deliverable where and as needed by 18-wheeler) are taking over vast swaths of the bedrock industrial jobs. Stopping this destructive trend will certainly take border discipline, but we also have to do away with the economic need for them on this side of the border by training our own people.

It ain't gonna be easy. There is no leadership coming from either party, or even the unions on this.

33 posted on 11/30/2002 9:30:13 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: B4Ranch; All
A suggestion that I have been working on recently, is a combination of efforts.

1....An immediate moratorium on immigration waivers and new applications in the pipeline until major changes are made and the system re-vamped.

2...Under the new Homeland Security Dept., we need to create a massive border security program. We need to expand the border patrol by 150 to 200 thousand members.

We need to do this under the civil service programs that bush has been touting. We may need to re-establish the draft for this purpose. Not for the military, but for a cadre of our young people to protect our borders, while at the same time, giving two years of service to the country.

We can train and board them at un-used military bases. We can give them educational opportunities under the GI bill and a small but adequate allowance for someone who is provided three squares and base housing.

In return, they can get their civil service requirement out of the way, get educational benefits and the experience of training and military discipline. Some may want to continue in a military career.

What say you?

34 posted on 11/30/2002 9:33:39 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Aliska
Yes, you seem to see the problem very well. It would appear you are willing to accept it. So are a lot of other people who give up the fight because it seems too big. That's why people like Loretta Sanchez and others are in one wanted to carry on the fight for what was right. It probably seemed like too big a task to take on a bunch of losers we have in office. So we sit and twiddle our thumbs and wait until we are forced out of our homes and off our property. Hmmmm. I guess it's easier to pack our bags and go wherever......
35 posted on 11/30/2002 9:33:41 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: constitution
Yup! You got it!
36 posted on 11/30/2002 9:34:25 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: wirestripper
What say you?

I'm 44 years old but you sold me. Where do I sign up?

37 posted on 11/30/2002 9:35:52 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: B4Ranch; Sabertooth
bravo !
38 posted on 11/30/2002 9:41:31 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: Kenny Bunk
I remember sitting by myself looking at my little kids back in the 70's and thinking about the stupidity of the Woman's movement that was almost pushing me out the door to go to work! I remember thinking, "good Lord....I want to stay home with my kids and take care of them, but if I do that I will be attacked as being a nobody!" I remember resenting the hell out of people who couldn't see that the kids were going to suffer. I remember resenting the hell out of insurance companies that were driving the prices of medical costs sky high, and attorney's who couldn't care less that their "deep pockets-let someone else carry the burden" attitude was helping destroy our motivation to take responsibility! And I remember being laughed at because I was obstructing the progress of all women by refusing to stand up and fight for my right to be free of the burdens of family! What the hell! We reep what we sit around and watch other's sow. Why? Because we don't go pull the damned plants out while they are small!
39 posted on 11/30/2002 9:42:17 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: wirestripper
Border security is one thing, but the fact of the matter is that the best way to keep people from making the effort to come across our borders is to stop making the trek so attractive in the end!
40 posted on 11/30/2002 9:43:33 AM PST by MistyCA
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