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Can You Help America?
Self ^ | 11/30/2002 | B4Ranch

Posted on 11/30/2002 8:03:21 AM PST by B4Ranch

Can You Help America?

Are you willing to give five minutes or more of your time to think about a solution to a very costly problem that exists in every State in the Union?

If you listen to Rush Limbaugh on TV or on his radio show, you will hear him discuss how dumb and ineffective Democrats can be. He has been saying that the Democrats are only good at whining about problems, not at fixing problems. Rush says the Republicans are the only party that actually fixes problems. Do you believe this? FreeRepublic.com is overflowing with Republicans isn't it? I propose that the Republican FReepers attempt to find a solution to this major problem and demonstrate to America just how effective Republicans (and FReepers) can be.

In the early 1960s, approximately 62,000 illegal aliens came across the Mexican border, and the INS considered this notable and worthy of action. Now, in the first decade of the 21st Century, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens enter the United States across the Mexican border each year and the INS declares the problem too big to tackle because nothings stems the tide. Federal immigration laws state that sneaking into America without going through the INS Border Patrol stations is illegal. Hiring an illegal alien is illegal. Sheltering an illegal alien is illegal. And keeping knowledge from law enforcement as to the whereabouts of an illegal alien is illegal. With Agenda 21, the politicians are looking at every way possible to give those who break these laws a pass by granting amnesty and American citizenship to illegal immigrants. Agenda 21 means effectively removing the borders between Mexico and the US. NAFTA just opened our roads to tractor trailers from Mexico. This situation will become much worse.

This problem has been ignored in just about every city and county in America while costing exorbitant amounts of taxpayer dollars, spent on social welfare and the education of illegal aliens. Ignoring this problem also comes with the cost of an increasing crime rate resulting in too many American citizens being victims at the hands of illegal aliens. Governments at all levels, federal, state and local are not protecting America's federal nor State sovereignty,. nor are they protecting American citizens.

Why should you and I support a federal lawbreaker in our State? So an incumbent politician can get reelected with their illegal vote? I don't think so!

Matricula consular identification cards are solid identification of an illegal allien. If you can't show a birth certificate, a Visa or a green card then you are an illegal alien who has broken our immigration laws. They must leave America and reenter within our laws. We shouldn't have to amend our laws to accommidate lawbreakers! What example does that set for those who are attempting to enter America legally? Much more important: What example does this give our children? That breaking the law can be a rewarding act? If our immigration laws carry no penalty for being broken, why should bank robbery, or molesting children be punished? Do we make our laws for them to be ignored by aliens and politicians? Is a vote more precious than our standards and ideals? Our politicians must believe so, judging from their responses.

The words "protect the people" are found in virtually every Oath of Office taken by elected and appointed officials in the US, including the police chiefs, mayors, county sheriffs, state legislators, governors, congressional representatives, and senators. Sadly, not one of these officials on the public dole is taking their Oath of Office seriously when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration.

The Supreme Court of the United States has wisely ruled that the Feds cannot force state, county or city law enforcement officers to enforce federal laws (including immigration laws), and our local and state officials use this as an excuse to turn their heads on the problem of illegal immigration while our communities slide steadily downhill. Government officials continue to demand higher taxes to keep the illegal immigration problems under "control" yet we can only sit back in wonderment as they pay lip service to the problem while actually enacting legislation and policies that encourage people to emigrate to the US illegally with promises of social welfare and education benefits.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us - being a proud American is based on the idea of freedom and self-reliance. We are all immigrants from one country or another, and we (or our forebears) became Americans by consciously subscribing to these ideas. We came here legally, we obey the laws and we promote the idea that others obey the laws in the same way. Are we supposed to sit and wait while the political class comes up with the politically correct so-called solutions that fail to keep America strong and our families safe?

How many foreign college students choose each year to stay in America rather than obey the conditions upon which they entered America? How many older vistors choose to stay at the end of their vacations? How many deported criminal aliens return using a different name? How many Muslims are in America illegally studing our open way of life, just waiting for an opportunity to repeat 9/11? I am sure we have illegal aliens from every country in this world enjoying the American lifestyle, helping to bring us down to a third world power. We aren't too far from becoming the country that these people left. The American culture can only absorb so many new residents each year without radical changes. We have passed that number. We must act now before the policical leaders offer them amnesty and permanently defeat our way of life. The time has come to stand up and fight for what we believe in. The Constitution will become wastepaper. The Bill of Rights will become a memory. Our flag will become a symbol of defeat.

If you have listened to Rush, you know the truth of his broadcasts. If you haven't listened to him, here's an opportunity for you to show how good FReeper Republicans can be at finding solutions to our nationwide illegal immigration problems.

So tell us, what should be done to fix the problems of illegal immigration in your community?

#1. Should we acquiesce and allow the illegal immigration to continue while waiting for the elected officials to address the problem in a substantive way?

#2. Should we wait for Federal legislators to compromise our security and way of life by resolving the problem in a manner that is politically correct and acceptable to every nation in the world?

#3. If we continue to send snail mail and email letters to your local and State leaders. Will the roar be ever loud enough to be heard in the highest offices? What will their response be? Submition to illegal immigrants who want to change America forever?

#4. Should we wait until you fly off the handle and lash out at an illegal alien, surely resulting in legal problems that will further harm your family and ruin your life's ambition to be a good and loyal American citizen?

#5. Should you ignore the illegal immigration problem and hope it will go away before it gets much worse?

What should YOU do?
What should WE do?

It is time to stand together to correct this problem. You are the leader in your family. Your kids look to you to protect them. If you don't help us now, will your children be able to look at you with pride or shame in five years. It's your freedom and your way of life that is up for grabs.

It's your choice, you decide what to do before it is too late.

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The new way of life


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To: Rytwyng
That's a good point! That might work for a while, but what happens if the US turns into another country where only the straight-white xxx are a minority? Our government could very well be controlled by people from a third-world who runs this country (whatever it might be at that time) the way they are use to? Paranoid thinking? Maybe! But many people in the US never thought 9-11 could have happened.
661 posted on 12/06/2002 8:54:09 AM PST by beachn4fun
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To: dalebert
politicians don't care what you say anymore than voters should care what they say. They only care how you vote just like voters should only care how they vote.

The only way the voters are going to start to correct this problem is by not voting for anyone that doesn't DO something to stem the tide of illegals.

Noo one from the Mexican states of CA TX AZ or NM are going to ever do anything meaningful to fix this.

The only way to fix it and still somtimes vote for people from the Mexican states is to give them large soft money contributions. That's not going to happen from private individuals. That's not going to happen from companies either. We just can't vote for them until they get the message. That would only take one election cycle.

I understand that I'm being a too strident about sending them home again. That's not going to happen either. plenty of them have become Americans over the years. I wouldn't send them back even if I could but I would send home the 20 million or so that have come over recently.
662 posted on 12/06/2002 9:32:43 AM PST by stalin
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To: OPS4
Please ; they've had much more than enouph time. They never intendend to do anything about the Mexican invasion. They still don't.
663 posted on 12/06/2002 9:36:24 AM PST by stalin
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To: beachn4fun
People wouldn't tolerate it. Once one state had been lost (probably California will be first), secessionists everywhere of every stripe would be greatly emboldened, and US would fragment into several nations, just as the Roman empire eventually did.

The fragmentation would almost certainly occur along ethnic lines; "white" nations would probably arise in the Pacific Northwest and the mountainous, still-heavily-white regions of the old Confederacy. Possibly a Mormon theocracy would arise in Utah.

The lowland South would probably see a black nation, and the native Hawaiians have been talking about independence for some time now. And, of course, Mexico would probably regain much of the Southwest.

Border warfare would be very ugly. Just think Balkans on a continent wide scale. Possibly the worst of it would be Utah vs Aztlan, as the Mormons are (a) demographically expanding, unlike most whites, (b) very, very heavily armed, and (c) living on a piece of land that the Reconquistadores would very much like to reincorporate into Mexico.

Pray it doesn't happen. But brace yourself. Liberal race baiting may yet bring it about.

664 posted on 12/06/2002 9:40:00 AM PST by Rytwyng
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To: rudeboy666
So what happens when a Vietnam veteran with a purple heart gets arrested in a raid because he looks 'Mexican'?

Arrested by whom and if you're the person, then freep mail me.

665 posted on 12/06/2002 7:13:41 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: stalin
If no one from Mexican states is going to fix this why would anyone from the other states do any better. What would make it a real issue to them? What makes you so sure non mexican state candidates would do any better. They all promise anything to get elected.
666 posted on 12/06/2002 9:03:13 PM PST by dalebert
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To: B4Ranch
Can't go to bed with this website on 666
667 posted on 12/06/2002 9:37:52 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: dalebert
Because they don't have as many Mexicans in their state. In the mexican states politicians can't get the nomination without doing what Mexicans want. They are the swing voters because they are conservative in family values yet liberal on socialism. Even thought that vote mostly democrat now Republicans see the future and are kissing Mexican booty big time. Both parties will do whatever the Mexicans want them to do.

CA is even giving undocumented illegals ( Mexican only ) drivers licences now. CA TX NM and AZ are lost to the USA.

To get them back we need politicians from both parties from the other 46 states to do battle with the politicians from the Mexican states. That is the only way we are going to start defending our border again.
668 posted on 12/07/2002 11:09:29 AM PST by stalin
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To: stalin
why cant any US citizen simply make a citizens arrest, and toss em back over the fence?
669 posted on 12/07/2002 11:11:36 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000
If that were allowed we would have millions of volunteers out there doing just that. I'd be one of them.

Unfortunately with a citizens arrest you can't even touch the person that you are supposedly arresting anymore.

Pretty stupid huh ?
670 posted on 12/07/2002 11:17:07 AM PST by stalin
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To: stalin
I think you will have to add a few more states to your Mexican catagory. I have heard stories about Ark, OK, LA, FL, ect......Are these so called Mex states not to want representation since they are a lost cause? I am in Texas, does that make me no concern of the rest of the nation? What makes you think non Mex state candidates give a hoot about illegas? Whats it to them?If we do like you say then no one will fix the problem. Now get on your soapbox and explain this.
671 posted on 12/07/2002 2:39:26 PM PST by dalebert
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To: TaxPayer2000
why cant any US citizen simply make a citizens arrest, and toss em back over the fence?

Because our laws ssay that if we as citizens arrest someone , we must turn them over to our LEO's for trial. We do have the power ot arrest but not the power to be judge and jury.

672 posted on 12/07/2002 4:53:18 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: stalin
Unfortunately with a citizens arrest you can't even touch the person that you are supposedly arresting anymore.

Yes, you do but you must turn them over to the closest LEO.

673 posted on 12/07/2002 4:54:56 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: stalin
Sorry, meant to include this with the previous answer. Think "Bounty Hunter".
674 posted on 12/07/2002 4:56:10 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Amelia
You might better quit buying vegetables.

Didn't our mothers and grandmothers can vegetables when we were little? (presuming you are over 50)We can now by canned vegetables all winter long. Fresh salad isn't a must in February.

675 posted on 12/07/2002 5:22:13 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: dalebert
The Mexican states wont do anything. It will only get worse if they get their way.

The only way the Mexican states will do anything is if people stop voting for candidates that wont do anything to solve the problem. Both republican and democrats in those states have proven over and over again that they will try to pry the border open even more and give the illegals legal status.

I hope that the non-Mexican states get the message before it's too late but I doubt it. You're probably right about them not caring either but if we vote for anyone from the Mexican states then we can be sure that nothing will get done.

676 posted on 12/07/2002 7:09:14 PM PST by stalin
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To: B4Ranch
Maybe it depends on the State. When I was a security guard in CA we were taught that we could only make citizens arrests because private security guards have no power other than a regular citizen.
Then to my surprise we were taught that it is illegal for us to use any force accept to defend ourselves or others. We could not hold them until police arrived unless they were violent. We could only call the police and wait for them. Of Course we completely ignored that rule by always saying that they appeared to be violent.
677 posted on 12/07/2002 7:16:24 PM PST by stalin
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To: stalin
Maybe we need lobbyist to handle this. I know I give a lot to NRA. I could give more to a Pro American Anti Illegal Organization. That seems to be the only way to have a strong voice. You have to be careful not to make these things look racist. I would just like to see the laws we already have enforced.It would be a start.
678 posted on 12/07/2002 8:29:19 PM PST by dalebert
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To: OPS4
Great I idea.lets just wait and see what happens. I am just trying to get a handle on Stalins "don't elect anyone from a border state" train of thought. It seems to me that a really ticked off border state candidate is just the ticket. And of course we all have to be just a little realistic like our president. I am hoping without Gridlock Daschle things will move a little faster.
679 posted on 12/07/2002 8:46:02 PM PST by dalebert
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To: dalebert
That's a good idea. We need a PAC that can lobby pay soft money bribes and run TV commercials. You know that they would get sued out of existence for seeming to be racist though.

Enforcing the laws is the responsibility of the executive branch. With a Republican in the Waite house our voice should be heard with more power. Unfortunately he is from a Mexican state. If Republicans saw a 5% fluctuation among core republicans they would do something immediately.

Blind loyally even when your representatives are clea going against the best interests of the nation is a bad thing. This issue is vital to national security and well being. If Bush sees it as an issue that he's got to do something about or loose 5% of Republicans he would tighten the border tomorrow.

If he sees soft money that would other wise be going to him being used to run ads against his kiss Mexican booty policy that policy would change overnight.
680 posted on 12/08/2002 9:27:34 AM PST by stalin
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