[CIBvet]

Lots of good discourse/ideas/solutions posted on your thread.

When you start feeling all your efforts are in vain, just think back to how these threads went even 3 years ago!!

Thanks to you (and all of us) for the continued passion to save America and our National Sovereignty.

[B4Ranch]

HELP!

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

Bump for later reading.

[fightu4it]

Question to those here with law enforcement backgrounds: Since these people are here illegally, if the feds passed a law tomorrow to round them up (a) how do you find them and (b)how do you determine their status. Can a civilian do this without breaking any laws.

No, what we need is a federal level legislator who will work to pass a law placing a bounty for the arrest and conviction of illegals. Mexican, Chinese, Russian, Hatian, you name it!

[John Lenin]

Simple, cut off welfae payments to immigrants who haven't worked a ceartin amount of quaters and paid into the tax system. Problem is, it will never happen, it makes too much sense.

[Texaggie79]

In this Texan's opinion, I don't think that more military will help.

When people are willing to risk their lifes to get in this nation, the problem will never be solved by simply trying to get them out. Same with the drug problem. As long as people desire the drug, it is going to find it's way over here.

Where is the solution? Look to Canada. Why don't we need massive military forces to keep them out?

I think the solution is in helping Mexico to be a truly free nation, rid of corruption. Help empower the Mexican citizens to oust all the corrupt government officials. Promote valid elections. Help Fox, as we all ready are, to clean up ranks from the top.

A truly free Mexico with a flourishing economy is the only solution. And by observing the Mexican people's desire to live as an American, it won't be that difficult to get them motivated to force change.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

I'm here. I'm pissed. I'm angry. I want this crap to stop.

What if we all emailed Karl Rove and President Bush on a certain day? Or phoned their office on a certain day?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Bump for later reading.

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT for later

[boris]

Link

Plyler vs. Doe
1982
- A Summary -

In 1982, the Supreme Court ruled in Plyler v. Doe , 457 U.S. 202 (1982), that public schools were prohibited from denying immigrant students access to a public education. The Court stated that undocumented children have the same right to a free public education as U.S. citizens and permanent residents. Undocumented immigrant students are obligated, as are all other students, to attend school until they reach the age mandated by state law.

Public schools and school personnel are prohibited under Plyler from adopting policies or taking actions that would deny students access to education based on their immigration status.

Based on the Supreme Court's ruling, public school districts should consider the following practices in working with ELL students:

School officials may not require children to prove they are in this country legally by asking for documents such as green cards, citizenship papers, etc. They may only require proof that the child lives within the school district attendance zone, just as they might for any other child.

Schools should be careful of unintentional attempts to document students' legal status which lead to the possible "chilling" of their Plyler rights.

The following school practices are prohibited:

• Barring access to a student on the basis of legal status or alleged legal status.

• Treating students disparately for residency determination purposes on the basis of their undocumented status.

• Inquiring about a student's immigration status, including requiring documentation of a student's legal status at initial registration or at any other time.

• Making inquiries from a student or his/her parents which may expose their legal status.

Federal Program Requirements - Federal education programs may ask for information from parents and students to determine if students are eligible for various programs, such as Emergency Immigrant Education. If that is the case, schools should ask for voluntary information from parents and students or find alternative ways of identifying and documenting the eligibility of students. However, schools are not required to check or document the immigrant status of each student in the school or of those students who may be eligible for such programs. The regulations do not require alien registration numbers or documentation of immigration status.

Social Security Numbers - Schools should not require students to apply for Social Security numbers. If schools decide to pass out Social Security registration forms to assist the Social Security Administration, they must tell parents and students, in appropriate languages, that the application forms are merely a service and it is up to the parents and students whether the applications are actually filed. They should stress that schools will not monitor the filing of these applications. Additionally, schools should not require any student to supply a social security number.

School Lunch Programs - In order to qualify for Free or Reduced Lunch Programs, all applicants are required to furnish either of the two following types of information: Social Security numbers of all household members over the age of 21, should they have one. For all household members above the age of 21 who do not have a Social Security number, an indication of the application that he or she does not possess one. If a student or household members over the age of 21 do not have a Social Security number, "none" should be written in that space or another identifying number could be assigned by the school.

Parents and students should be reminded that the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) prohibits any outside agency, including the Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS), from getting this information without obtaining permission from the student's parents or a valid court order.

School lunch programs are interested in determining household income, not in determining a student's legal status.

Communication with INS - Any communication to INS initiated by a school or school official concerning a specific student is prohibited. If parents and/or students have questions about their immigration status, school personnel should refer them to legal service organizations, immigrant rights organizations, or local immigration attorneys. They should not advise immigrants to go directly to INS offices without first getting proper advice from an attorney or immigrant rights advocate.

Requests for information by INS - School personnel are prohibited from cooperating with INS in any way that may jeopardize an immigrant students' right of access (with the exception of the administration of F-1 and J-1 visas). INS requests for information can only be released upon the presentation of a valid subpoena. All school personnel should be advised of this policy. If a subpoena is presented, it may be advisable to check with an attorney to properly check into the validity of the subpoena.

Requests by INS to enter a school - School personnel should not cooperate with INS in any manner that jeopardizes immigrant students and their right of access. The school principal should meet with INS officials in the front office with a credible witness present, deny the INS officials consent, and request to see a legal warrant. If a warrant is presented, the principal should determine that it:

Lists the school by its correct name and address
Lists students by name
Be signed by a judge
Be less than ten days old
Be served by an INS officer with proper identification.

To protect other students in the school, the principal should bring the INS officials to the office and request that they remain there while the named student(s) is brought to them. The principal should immediately inform the Superintendent and school attorney.

School District Personnel should always consult an attorney to clarify their duties and responsibilities under Plyler. This document is intended solely for guidance.

Source:

"Immigrant Students: Their Legal Right of Access to Public Schools. A Guide for Advocates and Educators" by John Willshire Carrera, Esq. National Coalition of Advocates for Students. Boston MA

[Helix]

Also, support American made products.

http://www.buyamerican.com/cgi-bin/shop.storefront/

[madfly]

ping

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

Whatever we do, we can't allow the federal government to keep throwing money into projects that do not do any good.... HERE IS AN EXAMPLE:

Monday, November 25, 2002
Failure of High-tech Border Cameras Threaten Nat'l Security
KIRO 7 Eyewitness News

A multi-million dollar, high-tech camera system developed to protect America's borders isn't working as promised -- and many days, it's not working at all. KIRO Team 7 Investigators uncover a national security breach that, if not repaired now, could let terrorists simply walk across the border into Western Washington. Our exclusive story exposes a failure that has top-level Justice Department officials scrambling..........

They are supposed to see in the dark, zoom and record images four miles away, even read the body temperature of a human target. Border Patrol calls these super-computer cameras RVS or Remote Video Surveillance. In Blaine, Washington, these lenses are the new eyes and ears along 46 miles of rural, vulnerable Canadian-U.S. border.......

Border Patrol has publicly touted this new system as a panacea for the future: fewer agents more efficiently covering more territory. However, a six month KIRO Team 7 Investigation into RVS reveals massive deficiencies in the Northern border camera system, repeated failures that continue to put national security at risk........

KIRO Team 7 Investigators obtained documents from confidential sources that detail hundreds of specific daily breakdowns with Remote Video Surveillance near Blaine. "All cameras: Controls not working 95 percent of the time." "It's another warm day and the cameras are once again not responding." "Infrared Down, Infrared Bad.".....

and then the clincher (my words):

So who is the contractor on the border camera project? It's a company called International Microwave Corporation or IMC. We've discovered, despite the failures in Blaine, the Justice Department is making IMC the main government contractor for installation of surveillance camera systems along all U.S. borders. We obtained the no-bid $200 million blanket purchase order for the work made out to IMC. But this $200 million contract comes with a sensitive political connection. The vice president of government contracts for IMC is a woman named Rebecca Reyes. Her father is Texas Congressman Silvester Reyes.... Congressman Reyes, who sits on the House Intelligence and Homeland

IMC recently received a $200 million no-bid contract from the Department of Justice to install security systems along all US borders.

[M Kehoe]

Normally I don't bump vanities but...

5.56mm

[B4Ranch]

We Need YOUR HELP!

[B4Ranch]

We Need YOUR HELP!

[DoctorMichael]

If you have listened to Rush, you know the truth of his broadcasts. If you haven't listened to him, here's an opportunity for you to show how good FReeper Republicans can be at finding solutions to our nationwide illegal immigration problems.

Just an aside....................

1) As a loyal listener to Rush for 12 years, THIS is a subject I've heard him comment on maybe 5 to 10 times, if that, over that time period.

2) As a loyal subscriber to National Review, THIS is a subject that, only until recently, they bothered to showcase in their "conservative" magazine.

We need to enlist the large, mainstream "conservative" mouthpieces in this war! They have been asleep at the switch during the 90's and are loathe to really feature the subject, even now.

[B4Ranch]

We Need YOUR HELP!

If anyone would like to post a link to this thread on another thread and doesn't know how, just add a < at the BEGINNING of this URL and then post it. No spaces, just snuggle it right up to the 'a'

a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/798313/posts">Can you help America?

The link will appear as "Can you Help America?" in the thread you are on.

I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

(citizens!)

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The flag is the symbol of our national unity, our national endeavor, our national aspiration.

[B4Ranch]

We Need YOUR HELP!

[al_possum39]

Everybody should know by now that I favor severe penalties for all those who hire illegals.

But I would like to comment on a statement.

Being an American is a primarily a state of mind for all of us

I certainly agree with this statement since a country named America doesn’t appear on any map that I have seen. As a matter of fact, those illegal Mexicans are as American as we are since Mexico does appear on the North American continent and Hawaii doesn’t. However, Hawaiians are U.S. citizens and are consequently legal while Mexicans may only be here with the knowledge and approval of the United States government. Also, anyone who hires them without the knowledge and approval of the U.S. government is breaking the law just as bad or worst than the Mexican. IMHO they are worse.

Anyway, we should stick to the facts and not make any mystical states of mind prerequisite for being here.