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HS Lesbian Sues Over Locker Ban
NY Post ^ | 2002-12-18 | Reuters

Posted on 12/18/2002 6:23:47 AM PST by Lorenb420

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 18, 2002 -- LOS ANGELES - A 15-year-old student who was banned from the girl's locker room at her school because she is a lesbian filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit yesterday in a case that tests the rights of gay students.


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1 posted on 12/18/2002 6:23:47 AM PST by Lorenb420
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To: Lorenb420
If I were her classmate, I would feel humiliated, denigrated and harassed by her presence in my lockerroom. Just a thought.
2 posted on 12/18/2002 6:28:28 AM PST by Temple Drake
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To: Lorenb420
"It's fine if they're uncomfortable, but it's still discrimination," Massey said.

So it's ok to make an entire gym class unconfortable as long as it makes one openly, socially-deviant kid feels good. Since there really is no legal redress for these frivalous lawsuits, I wonder when people will start taking the law into their own hands when some marxist lawyer files these rediculous suits.

3 posted on 12/18/2002 6:30:49 AM PST by Orangedog
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To: Lorenb420
The solution is simple...Men...Women...Other

This would solve lockerroom, restroom and other private space problems.

4 posted on 12/18/2002 6:31:21 AM PST by borisbob69
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To: Lorenb420
Gee....a 15 year old finds out actions have consequences. Let's repeat that a 15 YEAR OLD!!!!!

What's the world coming to......I hope she loses. I'd not like it either.....she should have stayed in the "closet."
5 posted on 12/18/2002 6:32:04 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: borisbob69
What about "Other Other" people?
6 posted on 12/18/2002 6:32:20 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Lorenb420
Well, sin IS uncomfortable and this pain is intended to drive the sinner back to God. Too bad she didn't get the hint.
8 posted on 12/18/2002 6:36:03 AM PST by lsee
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To: Lorenb420
"High School Lesbian Locker Room"

I think that runs on the Playboy Channel.
9 posted on 12/18/2002 6:36:53 AM PST by moyden
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To: goodnesswins
We are, of course, assuming that she simply declared her sexual orientation. Call me cynical, but I suspect something more. Could be anything, but I'm going to put my money on unwanted advances or predatory comments while actually in the locker room.

Of course, girls have had to deal with lesbians in the locker room for decades -- the teachers.

10 posted on 12/18/2002 6:38:58 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Lorenb420
And they wonder why these news stories of some guys getting together to kick the crap out of some homosexual man periodically occur!
11 posted on 12/18/2002 6:39:33 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: moyden
I haven't seen that one yet. When is it on? I have to, uh, screen it so I can be appalled.
12 posted on 12/18/2002 6:41:04 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: AppyPappy
LOL...if carried to it's logical conclusion there would be no space on the sign for the Other (Other) room(s).
13 posted on 12/18/2002 6:41:12 AM PST by borisbob69
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Oh that's manly. 4 guys on one gay dude.
14 posted on 12/18/2002 6:42:28 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: AppyPappy
"What about "Other Other" people?"

They already have a special facility for them more commonly known as the Senate locker room.

15 posted on 12/18/2002 6:44:32 AM PST by fuzzthatwuz
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To: Lorenb420
So, if they don't drop the soap in the shower there would be no problem. Or does that apply to girls?
16 posted on 12/18/2002 6:46:33 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: Lorenb420
She's a girl. Where the hell is she supposed to change for gym class?
18 posted on 12/18/2002 6:53:13 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: gonzo
I kinda chuckled at the idea of another locker room but it really makes since. If men/boys are not allowed in facilities designated for women/girls, for sexual seperation reasons (can't think of a better way to word it), then why should a girl that is sexually attracted to other girls be allowed either. It would be like letting the guys in the dressing room. Aren't public schools great! LOL
19 posted on 12/18/2002 6:55:46 AM PST by DonaldC
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To: Lorenb420
If she lived in New York she would have hit the lottery thanks to......

GAY RIGHTS MEASURES PASSES IN NEW YORK, PATAKI GLEEFULLY SIGNS INTO LAW.

20 posted on 12/18/2002 6:57:46 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
**She's a girl. Where the hell is she supposed to change for gym class?**

She's a girl with sexual attraction to other girls. No different than if a boy was in the locker room while girls were showering and changing clothes. She doesn't belong in there.

21 posted on 12/18/2002 7:01:47 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Lorenb420
I remember when they tried to denigrate the schools here, local civil rights leaders went NUTSO over it and the movement quickly lost steam... :/
22 posted on 12/18/2002 7:06:39 AM PST by Treebeard
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To: homeschool mama; Hemingway's Ghost
Then where is she supposed to go to change her clothes for gym class? The broom closet?
23 posted on 12/18/2002 7:06:47 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: Orangedog
That quote from the girl should be the liberal motto:

"It's fine if you're uncomfortable" as long as we get to do what we want in front of you.

24 posted on 12/18/2002 7:10:00 AM PST by Treebeard
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To: Lorenb420
Perhaps our gay friend shouldn't flaunt her sexual preference during school hours. What's her point? No wonder some girls feel uncomfortable. I would too.
25 posted on 12/18/2002 7:11:32 AM PST by TamiPie
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To: lsee
If sin is uncomfortable, more lubricant is needed. :)
26 posted on 12/18/2002 7:12:48 AM PST by Treebeard
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To: wimpycat
I'm assuming you're a man...would you feel comfortable disrobing with a gay man eyeing you up and down?

Broom closet is fine...in another building.

27 posted on 12/18/2002 7:14:31 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: homeschool mama
She's a girl with sexual attraction to other girls. No different than if a boy was in the locker room while girls were showering and changing clothes. She doesn't belong in there.

So, the correct calculus for determining where one should change clothes is "in the room filled with people you aren't sexually attracted to," not "with people with similar genitals"?

28 posted on 12/18/2002 7:14:34 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: TamiPie
exactly!
29 posted on 12/18/2002 7:14:57 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: AmishDude
"...assuming that she simply declared her sexual orientation."

If she's a she, meaning she has all the mechanics of a female, her sexual orientation is female. If she likes girls, her sexual preference is lesbian.

Okay, I know I'm nitpicking, and I apologize. But words do mean things, after all. The queer agenda has made a decided effort over the last year or so to get people to stop using the word "preference" in favor of "orientation", so they can further entrench in our societal psyche the unproven speculation that homosexuality is genetic. Every time we let the Left define the terms of the debate, we lose that much more ground.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

30 posted on 12/18/2002 7:15:30 AM PST by wku man
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To: TamiPie
**No wonder some girls feel uncomfortable. I would too. **

Some folks on this thread question that. :o/

31 posted on 12/18/2002 7:16:53 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Damned fine point, actually.
32 posted on 12/18/2002 7:17:14 AM PST by Treebeard
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To: jjm2111
Oh that's manly. 4 guys on one gay dude.

The irony of that depiction - I can't decide whether to laugh or blanch.

33 posted on 12/18/2002 7:19:12 AM PST by Frapster
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To: Frapster
The irony is rich, even ignoring the geometric absurdity. If it's 4 "on" one, two of 'em are waiting for "parking spaces" to open up, one would think.
34 posted on 12/18/2002 7:21:21 AM PST by Treebeard
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To: okchemyst
Now I'm blanching... lol.
35 posted on 12/18/2002 7:22:03 AM PST by Frapster
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To: jjm2111
Oh that's manly. 4 guys on one gay dude.

Actually, to keep the proper societal dispersal, it should have been 9.7 guys on one homosexual dude. (Chances he wasn't gay, just homosexual).

36 posted on 12/18/2002 7:26:13 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: AmishDude
Of course, girls have had to deal with lesbians in the locker room for decades -- the teachers.

Our gym teacher would check our backsides to make sure they were wet and that we showered!

37 posted on 12/18/2002 7:27:11 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: Lorenb420
Get ready -- Liberal court will mandate gay men and gay women must have seperate, private changing areas. (Cost to taxpayers for school modifications -- potentially billions)
38 posted on 12/18/2002 7:27:36 AM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: goodnesswins
.................I hope she loses.........
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Don't count on it. Do you remember about 15 years ago when the female sports reporter sued the NFL for barring her from the locker rooms. She claimed that not allowing her access to the shower room handicapped her against her male counterparts and therefore was discrimination? You can see the outcome of that decision any given Sunday. This suit has some of the same elements.
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The collapse of our civilization is progressing at blazing speeds.
39 posted on 12/18/2002 7:28:15 AM PST by JMP
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To: wku man
The queer agenda has made a decided effort over the last year or so to get people to stop using the word "preference" in favor of "orientation", so they can further entrench in our societal psyche the unproven speculation that homosexuality is genetic.
Even if a "gay gene" should be found, it would have no bearing on whether the gene is defective. For example, the fact that MS has a genetic basis doesn't make the condition any less disordered or immutable.
40 posted on 12/18/2002 7:29:23 AM PST by eastsider
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Our gym teacher would check our backsides to make sure they were wet and that we showered!

BTW, is that job open? I think fairness and equal opportunity should be invoked.

41 posted on 12/18/2002 7:31:28 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Frapster; okchemyst; William Terrell
I've always thought homo bashers were covering up something.
42 posted on 12/18/2002 7:33:22 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: wku man
If she's a she, meaning she has all the mechanics of a female, her sexual orientation is female. If she likes girls, her sexual preference is lesbian.

I beg to differ. Her sex is female, but she orients her sexuality towards females. Of course, we could use "sexual narcissist" but that would be insensitive.

43 posted on 12/18/2002 7:34:04 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: homeschool mama
Wrong assumption.

And no, I wouldn't have any problem disrobing with a lesbian in the same locker room. I've changed clothes in a health club locker room and I'm sure there were lesbians in there, although I didn't know which ones they were. In all my years of changing clothes in front of strange females, I never spent my time looking to see who was looking at me anyway.

I'm against the gay rights lobby, but I'm also not for sending a 15 year old girl to the broom closet because the other girls think she's lusting after their bods.

All this brouhaha is only giving fuel to the gay-rights lobby to scream, "Victim! Victim!" anyway. Why brand a scarlet "L" on this teenage girl by ostracizing her? I say don't give her any special attention at all.

Girl #1: I'm a lesbian.
Girl #2: Yeah, whatever. Did you finish your trig homework last night?
44 posted on 12/18/2002 7:36:07 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: TamiPie
.........Perhaps our gay friend shouldn't flaunt her sexual preference during school hours.........
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That only makes sense to moral people. Being homosexual is now taught as a behavior that is "special" and should be celebrated. We have allowed the continueing decay to rot the souls of our children because of our silence.

45 posted on 12/18/2002 7:40:46 AM PST by JMP
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To: homeschool mama
I assume you're attracted to men. Quick question: are you attracted to ALL men? As a heterosexual man, I'm always a little baffled by the "I don't want gay men around eyeing me up and down" attitude. As much as I'd like to think otherwise, every women I meet over the course of a day isn't attracted to me. I generally find that the men who harbor that attitude tend to be the type that most women find unattractive, and they flatter themselves greatly by assuming a homosexual male wants by nature to have sex with them.

Now granted, this specific situation is different, and I'm not saying that high school males should be able to dress with high school females because some of them are ugly. Just making a slightly off-topic point.

46 posted on 12/18/2002 7:41:18 AM PST by truenospinzone
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To: wimpycat
I don't agree. The lesbian gal would be no different than a boy in the locker room...

Further, the article most likely doesn't tell the whole story. Perhaps the lesbian gal was making openly suggestive comments to the girls in the locker room. Perhaps she was taking time to eye them up and down. That very well would make a teenage girl uncomfortable. It was make me, a middle age woman, uncomfortable.

47 posted on 12/18/2002 7:42:33 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: truenospinzone
read post 47
48 posted on 12/18/2002 7:44:26 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Lorenb420
I disagree with most of you. Homosexuals who behave themselves and respect others are doing no harm by seeing (and even possibly appreciating) the naked naughty parts of their own sex, by being present in places where others are normally unclothed. (Leering, verbally leching, and unwanted physical contact are entirely a different matter.)

Do you want to ban homosexuals from other activities where they can see and admire the bodies of others who are slightly more clothed? The beach? The mall?

49 posted on 12/18/2002 7:44:34 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: truenospinzone
**I'm not saying that high school males should be able to dress with high school females because some of them are ugly. Just making a slightly off-topic point. **

And I'm sure your a stud, right? What a putz.

50 posted on 12/18/2002 7:44:59 AM PST by homeschool mama
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