HS Lesbian Sues Over Locker Ban

NY Post ^ | 2002-12-18 | Reuters

[Lorenb420]

December 18, 2002 -- LOS ANGELES - A 15-year-old student who was banned from the girl's locker room at her school because she is a lesbian filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit yesterday in a case that tests the rights of gay students.

[homeschool mama]

I'm not a homohater, HG. Don't label me as such please.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

I wrote "Homohaters create just as much trouble as liberals." I didn't write "homeschool mama is a homohater." But that's beside the point. What's your solution to this problem?

[truenospinzone]

And more to the point, wouldn't creating a separate locker room for homosexuals actually have the most likely chance of ending with high school teenagers who are attracted to each other being in a position to see each other nude? If the logic behind keeping this girl out of a locker room with other girls is that she may be attracted to one of them, wouldn't putting her in a room with other lesbians be even more likely to result in two teenagers involved in a sexual situation on school premises?

No matter which direction the solution leads, the end result is going to involve some degree of emotional discomfort and a teenager being in a position to look at someone they're attracted to in a state of undress. If there's going to be a problem no matter what, might as well go the simplest route: People with Genitalia A dress here, people with Genitalia B dress here.

[homeschool mama]

You posted it to me so I thought you meant it for me. Surely you can see how I would think as much.

Since we homeschool, this situation doesn't *directly* affect our family.

Personally, I would not give in to the gay agenda by allowing the gal in the locker room. I don't have a pat solution...will have to think on that today.

[TheOtherOne]

Even that wouldn't satisfy some here. By their logic, two lesbians would need separate locker rooms, as they would be attracted to each other.

You nailed it when you said homophopes cause as much trouble as liberals.

[JMP]

..........I've always thought homo bashers were covering up something...........
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Your post seems to directed at any whom would criticise homosexuality. So I'll give you the pleasure of a response. I have always found homosexuals to be pleasant, artistic, creative and intelligent people (I'm sure there are a lot of exceptions too). By and large they seemed harmless enough. Then they became a movement of "special" people. The agenda developed and I found that I no longer had the freedom to choose whether or not I wanted their company. And the agenda continues to this day with no end in sight. They are now demanding the right to influence the minds of my children. As in any moral evolution or change, as the extremes are continually encroached good people will either ride their tolerance to the extinction of their ideals or will begin to dig their heels in increasing resistance. Push to hard or too fast and people and things begin to break.
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As far as your elementary ploy of " your resistance to my agenda means your really one of us" is not worthy of this forum. Besides being sexually challenged you appear to be challenged mentally as well.

[wimpycat]

I say you'll be giving into the gay agenda by keeping her out of the locker room, because if the defendant doesn't settle, I think she'll win her lawsuit. Changing the law is what the gay agenda is after, and people with your attitude are just playing into their hands.

[TheOtherOne]

What would be most fair in this instance is to ask the other girls who have to change with her, if they are uncomfortable with this lesbian girl (though I take what a 15 year old has to say about anything with a grain of salt) seeing them change. After all, it is they who may have to deal with the possible hint of sexual attraction in the locker room that this girl's presence provides. If they're uncomfortable, out she goes, if not, leave it alone.

Would you have done the same if the girls at a white school were uncomfotable with a black girl in the room? Does anything that makes other people uncomfortable warrant their being removed?

[Hemingway's Ghost]

And more to the point, wouldn't creating a separate locker room for homosexuals actually have the most likely chance of ending with high school teenagers who are attracted to each other being in a position to see each other nude? If the logic behind keeping this girl out of a locker room with other girls is that she may be attracted to one of them, wouldn't putting her in a room with other lesbians be even more likely to result in two teenagers involved in a sexual situation on school premises?

EXACTLY, which is one of the reasons I hardly think the knee-jerk "kick her out" solution is really what the homohaters want. That solution would "banish" them to a room where they'd dress and undress in front of potential sex partners and people who turned them on. Oh, the horror; I wish someone punished me by making me get changed in the girls' locker room.

No matter which direction the solution leads, the end result is going to involve some degree of emotional discomfort and a teenager being in a position to look at someone they're attracted to in a state of undress. If there's going to be a problem no matter what, might as well go the simplest route: People with Genitalia A dress here, people with Genitalia B dress here.

Right, and isn't the better lesson to be learned under these circumstances the following: it's okay to suffer some degree of emotional discomfort in your life---it's not going to kill you, and when it comes right down to it, you're probably getting all worked up over nothing. After all, the world doesn't exist to cater to your comfort.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Personally, I would not give in to the gay agenda by allowing the gal in the locker room. I don't have a pat solution...will have to think on that today.

How is that "giving in" to the gay agenda???? Life is not a zero sum game, you know.

[homeschool mama]

People with *my* attitude?! Why should any of our daughters be subject to feeling uncomfortable in a locker room setting? Sounds like *you* think they should embrace the diversity.

[homeschool mama]

**Would you have done the same if the girls at a white school were uncomfotable with a black girl in the room? Does anything that makes other people uncomfortable warrant their being removed? **

Comparing a black female to a lesbian is ridiculous. We're not talking racial difference...we're talking sexual orientation choice. Big difference.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Would you have done the same if the girls at a white school were uncomfotable with a black girl in the room?

You stepped into it here, and I'll respond for them: being black isn't a choice, being a homo is. What the homohaters are really doing is bashing the choice because they don't want anyone to be gay. It's not about justice or discrimination at all.

[TheOtherOne]

because you have no right to never be offended or made uncomfortable by someone elses legal behavior.

[homeschool mama]

The gay gal is making the other girls uncomfortable. Why should the girls fall victim to the lesbians agenda?

[homeschool mama]

..rolling my eyes...

[myrabach]

Yes, my gym teacher did the same... we had to drop the towels and turn around in front of her. Blech.... as we got older, some of us got more bold and got a little suggestive with her. At some point,. complaints were filed and the practice ended.

[TheOtherOne]

Okay then, change the black girl to converted muslim who makes everyone uncomfortable. Now, the same question applies. The point is that most of those complaining are keying on their discomfort as the trigger for the girl to leave. That is not a sufficient rationale.

[William Terrell]

I've always thought homo bashers were covering up something.

Well, you can't say they're covering up latent homosexuality because there are so many tens of millions who either bash overtly or covertly. Given the occurance of homosexuality in any population, there can only be about 3% of them covering for homosexual feelings.

So the presumption must be wrong. The best explanation is that those who bash overtly do so as an expression of disgust for the act, the arrogance and the militant manner in which they try to recruit our children.