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To: Badray
First off I gotta say Rudy just gave a hell of a speech!!!
Next, your point that the NRST has been in the game for 10 years and is further down the road of acceptance is absolutely true.

But you say that the different rates possible in the excise tax open it up to political gimmicry. Then you tell me that selling a used car is not covered in the NRST. Well if I buy a used car now I have to pay state sales tax on it, so the lack of it in the NRST is also a form of gimmicry .

What I am trying to do is take a good idea and refine it. I can certainly live with a NRST, if you can get it passed. My problem is in watching the political monkey-business, that the democrats have gotten so strident and so radical that I think they will literally do anything to keep this from passing. The fight with them on this will be a drain.

Finally you question on the final rate, I have another study I prepared where I discuss that the fixed cost in our domestically produced products from the income tax is high enough that when we start pulling that out, that it will offset most if not all of the price increase in either the NRST or excise tax replacement.

I just think the excise tax is a refinement of the NRST that improves some significant weaknesses. But either way I'm OK. What I can't live with is the current system that is burying my kids in a shitty system where decent jobs are becomming as rare as virgins in a whore house.

51 posted on 08/30/2004 9:03:45 PM PDT by det dweller too
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To: det dweller too
The purpose of not taxing used items is that no item is ever taxed more than once. It's not a gimmick, but a fundamental part of the FairTax concept.

Admittedly there are more GOP than Dem cosponsors, but one of the original sponsors is a Dem. There is a lot of interest in certain Dem circles but they are facing a lot of pressure from leadership to oppose it.

"What I can't live with is the current system that is burying my kids in a shitty system where decent jobs are becomming as rare as virgins in a whore house."

Here we fully agree. And that's the thing that confounds me so much. Everyone knows how bad the system is, but some defend it because their particular ox *may* get gored.

To my thinking, even if we pay more but rid ourselfs of the IRS and the Federal Income Tax code, we will be lightyears ahead in passing liberty to our children and grandchildren.

53 posted on 08/31/2004 12:32:10 AM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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