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Terri Schindler-Schiavo Lies of Michael Schiavo
Fight 4 Terri ^ | October 10, 2004 | Cheryl Ford, RN

Posted on 10/12/2004 10:17:22 AM PDT by amdgmary

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To: TOUGH STOUGH

You are so Right. I forgot about that.

George Soros, who pumped millions, into Kerry's campaign supports euthanasia too. There are some BIG Players behind the scenes, supporting the Killing of Terri.

They make me sick.


41 posted on 03/04/2005 10:31:58 AM PST by Pepper777 (HINO - Why won't you LET the MEDIA SEE Terri?)
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To: Republic

JUST THOUGHT EVERYONE WANTING TO KNOW THE FACTS ABOUT THIS TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE SHOULD REVEIW THE TOP ARTICLE BY CHERYL FORD, RN.
It is of immense importance to understand the actions of the monster who has so devastated Terri and who wants to end her life.

It is hard to grasp the degree of hatred Michael Shiavo holds for Terri and her family.

I copied your entire post above. May God Bless Cheryl always.


42 posted on 03/04/2005 10:35:50 AM PST by Pepper777 (HINO - Why won't you LET the MEDIA SEE Terri?)
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To: Pepper777

I'd much rather see TEJ on his doorstep--LOLOL


43 posted on 03/04/2005 10:41:12 AM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Pepper777
Just want to bump this every once in awhile. It so puts this unbelievable tragedy into perspective.
44 posted on 03/07/2005 8:10:18 AM PST by Republic (Will michael shiavo and his concubine and children now preside over the murder of Terri?)
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To: amdgmary

Would like to send this 'lies' fact sheet to Neal Boortz.


45 posted on 03/07/2005 8:11:38 AM PST by Republic (Will michael shiavo and his concubine and children now preside over the murder of Terri?)
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To: amdgmary
Hail Terri...

Child of God...

We pray those judicial sinners...

Do not cause the hour of thy death...

Amen !!!

.

46 posted on 03/17/2005 10:56:30 AM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Theodore R.

If Terri were an AIDS patient, a lesbian, and an earth firster, you know she would be getting plenty of attention in the tabloids. But she's Catholic, which is apparently a crime in itself.

I don't understand how Michael's new girlfriend could think her life will be safe. Or else, maybe she wants a little more uncertainty at home...


47 posted on 03/17/2005 12:44:06 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort.)
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To: Pepper777

The pro-death expert Michael Schiavo has hired actually conducted torture on Terri:

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/johansen200503160848.asp

Dr. [Dr. Ronald Cranford of the University of Minnesota] Cranford examined Terri on one occasion, for approximately 45 minutes. Another doctor for Michael Schiavo, Dr. Peter Bambikidis of the Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Ohio, examined Terri for about half an hour. When Dr. Bell learned of the cursory nature of these exams, he said: “You can’t do this. To make a diagnosis of PVS based on one examination is fallacious.” In Cranford’s examination, described by one witness as “brutal,” he discounted evidence under his own eyes of Terri’s responsiveness. At one point, Dr. Cranford struck Terri very hard on the forehead between her eyes. Terri recoiled and moaned, seemingly in pain. In his court testimony, Cranford dismissed the reaction and moan as a “reflex.”


48 posted on 03/17/2005 12:54:04 PM PST by donbosco74 ("Men and devils make war on me in this great city." (Paris) --St. Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort.)
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To: All
To All: - For a good indication of Terri's true condition - suffering from a brain disability - yes; but otherwise, certainly alive and responsive to her parents, read the following article:

"This past Christmas Eve day, 2004, I went to visit Terri Schiavo with her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, her sister, her niece, and Attorney David Gibbs III. The visit took place at the Woodside Hospice for about 45 minutes just before noon..."

A Must Read: A Visit With Terri Schiavo - by Attorney Barbara Weller - Christmas yEve day, 2004     (Post #46 - by Pegita)

...She then returned to interacting with her mother. When her mother was close to her, Terri’s whole face lit up. She smiled. She looked directly at her mother and she made all sorts of happy sounds. When her mother talked to her, Terri was quiet and obviously listening. When she stopped, Terri started vocalizing. The vocalizations seemed to be a pattern, not merely random or reflexive at all. There is definitely a pattern of Terri having a conversation with her mother as best she can manage...

MEDIA: Call the Gibbs Law Firm Media Director, Mr. Keith Brickell, at O:727-399-8300 or C:727-458-4824 to arrange an interview with Attorney David Gibbs III or Attorney Barbara Weller.

The TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO Foundation
= Terri's Fight = www.terrisfight.org = [Schiavo = (SHY'-voh)]
http://www.terrisfight.org   =   Terri's  Fight  .  org

49 posted on 03/20/2005 7:35:59 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: pc93; cyn; FL_engineer; floriduh voter; nickcarraway; Pegita; pollywog; Republic; ...
Michael Schiavo has Proven His Disgust of Terri; The Schindler Family has Proven Their Love.

Might want to bump this thread, right about now - good title & good info. = "Terri Schindler (/schiavo): The Lies of Michael Schiavo" = Info by Cheryl Ford, RN

50 posted on 03/20/2005 8:05:25 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: Golden Gate

Thanks!


51 posted on 03/20/2005 8:21:47 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: amdgmary

Great thread!!


52 posted on 03/20/2005 8:26:16 PM PST by syriacus (Why ask for physician-assisted-suicide in OR, when you can save money by "peacefully" starving?)
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To: amdgmary

We're having a REVIVAL of this thread!


53 posted on 03/20/2005 8:27:42 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: All; Ohioan from Florida
REVIVAL   Bump!
54 posted on 03/20/2005 9:42:38 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: All

& a Terri Bump!


55 posted on 03/20/2005 9:43:35 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: Golden Gate

http://group.classmates.com/user/mboard/thread.tf?thread_id=8352747;page=1#msg11



Interesting ...classmates.com a high school message board has a message on there ..someone acted as if they were Terri and Michael Sciavos brother joined in the discussion ...READ IT !

From: Michael Schiavo 1980 Jan 25 2005 3:50:26PM
To: ALL
(1) Looking for old friends 77-81 ?

I would like to get stories about my husband from his highschool days. I am from the area, but attended a different highschool. Anyone out there who can tell me about Michael? Thanks! WIFE Terri Schiavo

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From: John Hood 1980 Mar 1 2005 11:05:57AM
To: Michael Schiavo 1980
(2) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 1)

Yes, I know all about Mike. Let me tell you how. Mike is my brother and hiw Wife Terri could not have written this. So to all of the Schindlers, keep this shit up and we will sue your assess.
Thank you,
Scott Schiavo

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From: Kelley Glass Rogers Mar 2 2005 8:43:21PM
To: John Hood 1980
(3) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 2)

John Hood ?


I thought you said your name was Scott and that you are Michael's brother? I am certainly confused , not that it matter's ,I was just reading the message board and came across this message and noticed the to and from headers.

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From: Carol Kolinchak 1978 Mar 7 2005 3:30:34PM
To: ALL
(4) Looking for old friends 77-81 ?

Re: Terri Schaivo

Terri Schaivo has been in a coma for the last 15 years in Florida. Her case has been the subject of an ongoing legal dispute between her husband and her parents. I do not know who requested the information on her husband but it most definitely was not Terri.

Carol

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From: Kelley Glass Rogers Mar 10 2005 3:31:06PM
To: Carol Kolinchak 1978
(5) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 4)

Well , I took an interest in this case, since I saw this message board. I just saw an article that Gloria Allred /Alrad ( An Attorney) however her name is spelled, has deposited 1,000,000 dollars in her lawfirms bank account which came from an undisclosed businessman . the 1,000,000 dollars has MICHAELS name all over it ,all he must do is turn the care of his wife over to the Schindler's ( Terri's paternal parent's) .


So Michael if you read this ,let me ask ..What do you really have to lose? From what I have learned about this case ...You feel Terri wouldn't want to live this way ( She has a feeding tube that feed's her 3 times a day and that is her only assistance she needs medically) You feel she is brain dead......I do see her communicating with Doctor's and her relatives on live video footage.... I see her communicate with people better then some people who have M.S ! But putting all that aside ~ Totally do not understand .... ) Why not just take the money and let your new partner and kids enjoy the rest of their lives? Look how many people you'd make happy by doing this !


Terri is happy ...you can see it every time she smiles ..people have the ability to compensate for whatever life deals them ..Terri compensated ! The doctor who asked Terri to open her eyes to show she knew what he was saying . When I saw Terri OPEN HER EYES AS WIDE AS SHE COULD...SHE ALSO LIFTED HER EYEBROWS AS AN EXTRA MEASURE , JUST IN CASE THERE WAS ANY CONFUSION ~ that said HEY ...if you don't think tis is enough ,look at this! That showed me all I needed ...

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From: John Hood 1980 Mar 11 2005 10:00:26AM
To: ALL
(6) Looking for old friends 77-81 ?

To All Whom It May Concern,

This is John Hood - lets set the record straight - I was disturbed to see that someone would take advantage of this forum and attempt to deceive Michael's friends into providing information for who knows what use. I allowed Scott, Michael's brother, to reply through my account his "regards" to the message posted illegally (?) in an account supposedly created by Michael (doubtful) and written by Michael's wife (impossible)

Who wrote that message...First they assumed the identity of someone who is completely incapacitated and could never have requested information, Second, they created an account for Michael under false pretenses (or got into his account somehow), Third, they are being incredibly under-handed in their attempts to acquire personal information that can be used in what I'm sure would be a negative way.

Considering the Schiavo's have been personal friends for decades, I think they deserve some respect and consideration in what I'm sure is unbelievably tramatic for all involved -

There is certainly more than what we have heard or have read - but this situation is for those directly involved, those knowing the truth and those who have communicated their wishes and desires - it isn't our place to suggest direction or help in those decisions, rather, we should be grateful we are only observing it and not living it.

The Schiavo family has always been compassionate and honest as long as I've known them - when this has run it's course, we will all have our own personal opinion & they will live with their personal decisions.

Personally, I feel deceitful attempts to gather information is an invasion of their privacy and it's a matter that they need to address - and have.

Sincerely,

John Hood

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From: Carol Kolinchak 1978 Mar 14 2005 1:25:05PM
To: John Hood 1980
(7) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 6)

John,

Thanks for sharing your insights. I actually paid money to join this damn list because I was so angry that someone would get on this message board under false pretenses. It is incredibly deceitful and dishonest. I responded before I saw Scott's comments already setting the record straight.

As a lawyer, I'd followed the case (it has received lots of media attention here in the deep South)- and so was appalled that someone would so cavalierly use her name in this way.

Anyway, I'm sorry that someone would be so underhanded in what I can only imagine has been an emotionally devastating situation for the Schaivo family. And I hope that whoever keeps using this as a forum to solicit information or express opinions will allow them the privacy they so richly deserve. May you never be placed in similar circumstances.

Peace,

Carol

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From: Kelley Glass Rogers Mar 21 2005 11:56:10AM
To: Carol Kolinchak 1978
(8) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 7)

http://fight4terri.blogspot.com/2005/03/attorney-barbara-wellers-last-
visit.html


Attorney's account of Terri's last words before feeding tube was removed. Grab a tissue before reading!

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From: Kelley Glass Rogers Mar 21 2005 12:24:15PM
To: Kelley Glass Rogers
(9) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 8)



Carol ...."Your statement"

I'm sorry that someone would be so underhanded in what I can only imagine has been an emotionally devastating situation for the Schaivo family. And I hope that whoever keeps using this as a forum to solicit information or express opinions will allow them the privacy they so richly deserve. May you never be placed in similar circumstances.




NEWSFLASH !!!!!!!!!!!



This is public information ...most people have heard of what is going on .....The really SAD part though ,is that the REAL facts are NOT known by many (ie) John Hood's Statements , contrasting the fact that WE don't know the REAL FACT's . Yes many don't know the real facts of this case ...The bone scans where injuries were sustained 18 months prior to her collapse .... The Doctor's statemnts that these injurie's that did not occur at the same time as they were injurie's healing at differnet stages and that the only way to have susatined these injuroe's were to be hit by a mack truck or physical abuse/ trama .... These bone scans can be found ( THE ORIGINAL SCANS) Dr. statement's ect ... from Terri's support website .

Scott , it is THIS type of information that NEEDS to be addressed and yes I can see your effort's to keep such info private ,however when we see that Michael's incessant effort's to make sure TERRI is out of the picture ...along with the Nurses' statments that Michael in fact would be outraged if anything was done for terri ,besides the minimal care ...feeding tube ~ well we ALL must ask ourselves...Scott , with all due respect ...


Would you want your loved one to see sunshine? I mean if they were dehabilitated ,would not ANYTHING that brightened theri exsistance be too much ...something as free as fresh air and sunshine .... The list of Michaels restrictions for Terri is too long ...Restrictions that were obvioulsy placed not in the best interest for TERRI ...This is all too apparent ...Freash air and sunshine ..AGAIN are free ...Tell Michael to give one GOOD EXCUSE for that restriction on TERRI... I'd love to hear it!

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From: Kelley Glass Rogers Mar 21 2005 12:38:13PM
To: Kelley Glass Rogers
(10) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 9)

Thank GOD...



President Bush has stepped in and signed a bill for Terri's LAW!!!!

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From: Carol Kolinchak 1978 Mar 21 2005 3:13:22PM
To: Kelley Glass Rogers
(11) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 9)

I refuse to engage in your misuse of this message board.

NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This
is an alumni message board and you seem unable to grasp that basic point.

However, since you seem unable to honor basic requests for privacy and respect, it's hardly surprising.

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From: Kelley Glass Rogers Mar 21 2005 5:18:23PM
To: Carol Kolinchak 1978
(12) Looking for old friends 77-81 ? (in reply to 11)

I refuse to engage in your misuse of this message board.



*Really ? It would seem your deffination on engaging and vegitative states are in conflict.

NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This
is
an alumni message board and you seem unable to grasp that basic point.


*Yes, your right it is ...it doesn't particularly matter what the message is ...does it? This is a place to get news and messages out to alumni ....looks like it works well and thankyou for the interaction .. er ummm engageing in this message thread ...lets me KNOW it is being read !

However, since you seem unable to honor basic requests for privacy and respect, it's hardly surprising.


*** All information on this case is available for public viewing, however some people who may have an interest might not know where that info is readily available ,so for those who want to know the REAL FACTS www.terrisfight.org .

***** Let me give you my interpretation of respect ...Respect is something that most of us readily give and receive ,either by earning trust or because of our statis in society . Some of us lose respect due to (ie) Circumstances that are very questionable in which gains global attention ,then the media and inquiring minds step in ...and all HE^^ breaks loose ...no?

*****I respect those amongst us who have earned this. The fact is after looking hard and deep into to this matter ,I'm sorry to say I ( WE) have lost respect for an individual who claims to have his ailing wife's best interest at heart , have seen medical evidence that would question someones involvement in an accidental injury or other???


***** Hypotheticaly Carol .... lets assume the situation was turned ..on any of us ... If my only concern was to make sure that my husband wife's wishes were carried out and that He/SHE suffer NO MORE...I would make sure that He/SHE were as comfortable as humanly possible ( So that they NOT SUFFER ) ....I would do nothing to cause more pain/difficulty or other then has already been ensued . See the contradiction here Carol?


***** 15 years IS a long time ....And if TRULY I felt such sorrow for my ailing spouse ...Would I not ALLOW every sort of medical effort to HELP or PREVENT futher deterioration and suffering of their condition? Would I not allow the simplest of lifes pleasure...Clean FRESH AIR and SUNSHINE? Having their teeth taken care of ...letting a nurse place a cloth in between my spouses clenched hands ? ALLOW a nurse to let them sip of some juice from a cloth as I can see how much they enjoyed this ... Allow the family to place pictures in their room .... Let the nurses move their limbs daily as often as needed.... God I could go on and on from the RECORDS I have read ...So 15 years have gone by and all I can see is that Michael has worked extremely ..Feverently ...crazily ...making sure that her death sentence is finished off !! Why did michael tell the Schindlers that if they let the video's of Terri go public he would not let them visit their daughter ...??? WHY ~! because then the world would see that she is not in the vegatative state he'd like us to beleive ..because we would SEE that Terri doe's have desire's that she trie's to convey to the best of her ability ..DESPITE Whatever PUT her in this condition ..?


So you ask me about RESPECT ? ...You should be ashamed of yourself Carol...


56 posted on 03/21/2005 5:34:33 PM PST by checkitall
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To: checkitall; cyn; FL_engineer; floriduh voter; nickcarraway; Ohioan from Florida; FreepinforTerri; ..

partial Terri Ping = Post # 56 - Lenghty, but interesting - alumni message board - Thanks, checkitall


57 posted on 03/21/2005 8:37:37 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: checkitall

nice job! good info and feedback!


58 posted on 03/21/2005 8:51:03 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: donbosco74

I am amazed at how gullible some people are. The fiancee ought to be noting that this is how she will be done if she is in that position. You made an excellent point;)


59 posted on 03/24/2005 10:07:52 PM PST by rw88
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To: rw88

time for another bump to keep the issue alive until Michael Schiavo is charged with murder.

That is right, I believe that there are grounds to charge that creep with the murder of his wife.

Cheryl did a good job pointing out the many lies in Michael's statment, and contrasting what had been said or written that contradict him yet again.

Now, what has come to light, through the release of those documents from DCF is further proof of the lies told by Michael Schiavo.

Oh yes, many say that these documents prove that the complaints were groundless. I say that two complaints, against the Schindlers were groundless. However, there was definite substance in other complaints that were not properly investigated when the complaints were made.

I draw attention to a complaint that was made by staff at Morton Plant Hospital in 2003. Terri was admitted to the hospital suffering from a UTI. Michael had her discharged before the antibiotics could be effective. Her health deteriorated and she was returned to hospital. The complainant stated that Terri was awake and cognizant. In other words the medical staff attending to her at Morton Plant are contradicting the media story that Terri was in a coma and had been that way since 1990. The complainant put in the report to DCF because Michael was attempting to discharge his wife from the hospital again against their advice. He was attempting to deny her access to antibiotics and treatment for the following conditions: UTI, pneumonia, kidney stones and blood sepsis.

Once again we have evidence of Michael contradicting himself by what he did at Morton Plant Hospital. During the 2000 trial when he admitted to attempting to make Terri pass on by denying her antibiotics, he said that he would not do that again. Here is further proof that he lied under oath and has committed perjury.


60 posted on 04/23/2005 7:27:14 PM PDT by Maggie4life (Who is pulling the strings now?)
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