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Ancient writing found in Turkmenistan
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 15 May, 2001, 05:57 GMT 06:57 UK | staff

Posted on 11/01/2004 10:24:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv

A previously unknown civilisation was using writing in Central Asia 4,000 years ago, hundreds of years before Chinese writing developed, archaeologists have discovered... The discovery suggests that Central Asia had a civilisation comparable with that of Mesopotamia and ancient Iran as far back as the Bronze Age, University of Pennsylvania archaeologist Fredrik Hiebert told the BBC... It is not known what the people of the civilisation called themselves, so researchers have dubbed the society the Bactria Margiana Archaeology Complex (B-Mac), after the ancient Greek names for the two regions it covers.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Reference; Religion; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: archaeology; bactria; epigraphyandlanguage; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; margiana; oxus; turkmenistan; victorsariyiannidis; viktorsarianidi; viktorsarigiannidis
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I didn't find it with a Google search, perhaps I wasn't thorough enough.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
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1 posted on 11/01/2004 10:24:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 3AngelaD; ...
First GGG ping for Election Day. REMEMBER TO VOTE. And join me in a post-ballot toast to all those campaign ads we won't have to see for three years or more. :')
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

2 posted on 11/01/2004 10:27:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

very interesting


3 posted on 11/01/2004 10:28:13 PM PST by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: SunkenCiv

Couldn't find any samples or pix of the writings. Pictographic prolly, huh?


4 posted on 11/01/2004 10:29:48 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: SunkenCiv

Translated into English, it says "I have a plan".


5 posted on 11/01/2004 10:30:56 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SunkenCiv

That name totally sucks lemons.

YAY!!!!!!!!
No more campaign ads!
(It wasn't too bad in Texas)


6 posted on 11/01/2004 10:37:50 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
:') Ya mean, GGG? I've just been thinking, from now on, I may use "PinGGG." Too cute?
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

7 posted on 11/01/2004 10:42:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Eastbound
Dunno. Probably related to Indus Valley script? Or perhaps a precursor to Chinese? Lemme look around the trusty hard drive... [sound of electrons being moved around] nope, nothin'. try this.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

8 posted on 11/01/2004 10:46:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv
You could try G-Force, but that's what I call my 4 sons (Grant, Gavin, Garrett and Gabriel)

However, I meant the Bactria Margiana Archaeology Complex

9 posted on 11/01/2004 10:46:41 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

Oh, you mean "Bactria Margiana Archaeology Complex". Yeah, and calling it "B-Mac" isn't an improvement. Sounds likes fast food.


10 posted on 11/01/2004 10:48:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting. I was working in my doctoral dissertation on the BMAC and some related cultures. I believe the culture to be the heart of the ancient aryana, prior to a schism between the worshippers of Indra and those who followed the teachings of the reformer Zarathrustra. There's evidence of the soma ritual and I believe I'd identified actual soma pressing stones at numerous sites (albeit through museums since this area was off limits at the time I did my research).


11 posted on 11/01/2004 11:05:49 PM PST by Ilya Mourometz
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To: Ilya Mourometz

Its interesting that "soma" comes up not only in ancient civilizations, but also in "Brave New World"
and we now have a drug on the market called soma.

(Stop it, Bob...you're leaping again.)


12 posted on 11/01/2004 11:31:58 PM PST by concretebob (Protect the Naugas..stop sitting on naugahyde.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Very cool!


13 posted on 11/01/2004 11:32:30 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Ilya Mourometz

Could these be the peoples who were here before God made Adam?
Are these the people Cain was concerned about?

Folks, there were advanced civilizations on this planet 30,000 years before Christ. Assuming a time span of 3,000 to 5,000 years per civilization, that adds up to about 6 Earth Ages.

Which, if memory serves me right, the Hopis already knew and warned about.

Relax and enjoy the show. We're ringside for God's Final Solution.


14 posted on 11/01/2004 11:41:18 PM PST by concretebob (Protect the Naugas..stop sitting on naugahyde.)
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To: SunkenCiv
From the link: (extract):

http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/051301Times.shtml

"Whatever its origins, Dr. Mair said, the type of symbols and the small number of strokes used to create each one "makes me think the writing system is already fairly abstract, not pictographic.""

Hmmm. My guess: A transition language from Sumerian to another form in another land. Thanks for the link.

15 posted on 11/02/2004 1:37:33 AM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: SunkenCiv

The writng was called AMERICAN. We are in a time worp and different dimension. Don't believe me? Look at Kerry!


16 posted on 11/02/2004 6:18:11 AM PST by Henchman (Who gave KERRY entré to the VC @ Paris? T.Kennedy? McGovern? ...some"high" low D'rat probably)
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To: Fedora

An early language in that region was Tocharian A & B.


17 posted on 11/02/2004 6:59:34 AM PST by blam
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To: Fedora

BTW, the oldest paper ever found had Tocharian written on it. Don't remember how old the paper was.


18 posted on 11/02/2004 7:01:08 AM PST by blam
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To: blam; concretebob; Eastbound; Fedora; GeronL; Henchman; Ilya Mourometz; SoCal Pubbie; ValerieUSA
Thanks all for the remarks, and keep 'em coming. I just returned from the ballot box, made a sandwich, and got online. It feels like a burden has lifted. Glad this election is behind me (insofar as Ii've voted). REMEMBER TO VOTE. Thanks again.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

19 posted on 11/02/2004 9:11:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Ilya Mourometz
"I was working in my doctoral dissertation on the BMAC and some related cultures."

Any evidence of common origin of all languages from Sumerian?

20 posted on 11/02/2004 11:21:05 AM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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