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LETS GO AFTER THOSE THAT HIRE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
3/28/06 | BOB HARAN

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:59:58 AM PST by Bob Haran

By Bob Haran; The recent marches in opposition to Rep. James Sensenbrener’s bill, H.R. 4437, that would make it a felony to be in the country illegally, has raised a question in my mind.

Why don't we make the people responsible for causing people to enter our country illegally, felons? Congress should amend H.R. 4437 and instead of making it a felony to be in the country illegally, make it a felony to illegally hire someone in the country illegally. To make people who are for the most part, law abiding, into felons, is ludicrous. Why does our government refuse to go after the real law breakers, the employers that illegally hire and profit from using undocumented workers?

Let's enforce all our immigration laws.

Bob Haran, Phoenix www.Bob-Haran.info


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KEYWORDS: aliens; atzlan; bobharan; borders; congress; employers; haran; hr4437; illegal; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrants; invasion; mecha; sensenbrener; undocumented; workers
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1 posted on 03/29/2006 2:00:02 AM PST by Bob Haran
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To: Bob Haran

exactly. we need to enforce the laws in palce. they shouldn't be hiring illegals in the first place.. jobs dry up for the illegals and they'll move somewhere else


2 posted on 03/29/2006 2:03:38 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon
...jobs dry up for the illegals and they'll move somewhere else

Move where? Won't they receive some type of local/state/federal government welfare?

The problem is much bigger than simply wishing them away. Deporting them is the only answer that I see.

3 posted on 03/29/2006 2:10:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: Bob Haran

For years I’ve been saying we should use the RICO law on criminal employers. Under RICO the government can confiscate the personal assets of the board, the officers and the executives, including their homes, cars and retirement accounts.

If the government impoverishes 30 or 40 corporate big wigs, companies would be firing illegals faster than they hired them. Many of them would then go back where they belong. If we cut off tax paid services to illegals, the rest would go home too.

What we need is an administration that enforces the law. The problem would be solved


4 posted on 03/29/2006 2:14:47 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Bob Haran
Let not stop there, lets go after the landlord's who rent homes/apartments/coyote safe houses to them.
5 posted on 03/29/2006 2:16:43 AM PST by Pro-Bush (One sees great things from the valley, only small things from the peak.)
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To: Bob Haran

Until we all write our congressmen and tell them that if they don't treat this like the crime it really is they are fired this will get know where.


6 posted on 03/29/2006 2:18:30 AM PST by Racer1
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To: Bob Haran

That is the only way to stop the illegals. Don't just sslap their wrists, put illegal hirers in jail and the illegal stampede will dry to a trickle.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 2:20:59 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Pro-Bush
EXCELLENT IDEA,

But why is your handle Pro-Bush?

He's in Mexico right now consulting with his boss, Vincente Fox.
8 posted on 03/29/2006 2:21:23 AM PST by Bob Haran
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To: Las Vegas Dave

You miss the whole point: If they can't be hired, they have NO reason to ever enter the country.

Your neighbour to the North has already started deporting aliens who are in-country without legal reason.

If the "commie-socialist" Canucks are doing it, what up with you lot?

Or is it all smoke, no fire. Until the fire is out of control again, like WW2?


9 posted on 03/29/2006 2:22:12 AM PST by Don W (Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
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To: Bob Haran
I support him on most issues - like kicking islam terrorists ass and saying screw you to the pansy French and Germans.
10 posted on 03/29/2006 2:25:46 AM PST by Pro-Bush (One sees great things from the valley, only small things from the peak.)
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To: Bob Haran
Lets go after those that profit off illegal alien votes...
Make it mandatory to show proof of citizenship at the polls when you vote and then lets see what happens.
11 posted on 03/29/2006 2:28:24 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Bob Haran

Make the employers first offense a very stiff fine, the second offense a felony with a extremely stiff fine and jail time. Amen,


12 posted on 03/29/2006 2:33:22 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Bob Haran

Sounds like a good idea, but knowing how our court system operates the people who get prosecuted for hiring illegals won't be the people who hire dozens of illegals (like the wine industry and hotel industry). The people who get charged will be those who have an illegal watch their kid three days a week so they can go to work.

I'm not saying that people who have a landscaper or a janitor who come in a couple days a week or month are doing the right thing, but if Mr & Mrs Jones is going to be prosecuted for having an illegal do their laundry, then for damn sure Gallo Winery better be prosecuted for having thousands of illegals
picking their grapes....


13 posted on 03/29/2006 2:42:05 AM PST by freebilly
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If this were practical it would have been attempted a long time ago. Unfortunately too many big campaign contributors can afford these contributions because they pay such low wages to illegals.

Would you slap the hand that fed you?

It's all about money.

14 posted on 03/29/2006 2:42:55 AM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does. Islam is as Islam allows.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

"Deporting them is the only answer that I see".



It's not going to happen. We are going to be told that it is impossible, and expected not to ask why the situation got so far out of hand to begin with. For all practical purposes, every cent spent on securing the border has been wasted.


15 posted on 03/29/2006 2:46:24 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: freebilly

Many are ignoring the problem of forged documents. I was an employer in California until 12 years ago. I was virtually certain I had illegals on my payroll, but they had "green cards".

Perhaps things have changed since then. (Is there now a system for an employer to check for forged credentials?). But I suspect it's gotten harder, not easier.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 2:49:20 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats!)
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To: manwiththehands

I want names

NAMES OF EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

Let's make it PERSONAL. Who the hell is pulling the strings on Bush with all this money that big business is making OFF THE BACKS OF TAXPAYERS who are supporting their hiring of illegal immigrants.

Bush is sliding to infamy.

This one world government b.s. has to be stopped. Now.


17 posted on 03/29/2006 2:50:12 AM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Bob Haran
Here, here! Per my earlier post: "FREEPER Discussion - Immigration Reform (H.R.1447) - Mandatory Employment Verification"
18 posted on 03/29/2006 2:52:02 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cinnamon
I do not advocate any type of open borders, I simply state the obvious, in fact I support the Minuteman project financially. I simply want to know who will you get to do the work the illegals do? Many of the employers cannot afford to pay much more than the minimum wage, so who will they hire? Our kids have no work ethic any more, they would rather cruise the streets listening to music on huge stereos in cars mom and dad paid for than go to work. If you can find someone who will work, they have no pride in what they do. My dad taught me to be the very best at whatever it is I am doing whether it would be a dish washer or a brain surgeon. Until we start solving some of our domestic (read that to be family) issues the immigrant issue will continue to be with us.
19 posted on 03/29/2006 2:56:37 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: Bob Haran

Of course, what are there 10 million illegals or so. And while we are jailing them and their employers and their landlords, we might as well jail people who sell stuff to them. That way we might be up to 70-100 million people we need to jail. It makes perfect sense to me.....


20 posted on 03/29/2006 3:07:15 AM PST by Always Right
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