Skip to comments.Are Ron Paul Supporters Real?
Posted on 11/07/2007 5:54:10 AM PST by theothercheek
Second-tier presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) pulled off a first-rate fundraising coup, netting $4.3 million in online contributions from 38,000 donors in a single day, bringing his total haul to $7.3 million in 4Q 2007. No other Republican comes close to Pauls 24-hour feat, but Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has him beat at $6.2 million.
Paul supporters flashed their cash in honor of Guy Fawkes Day, which commemorates the would-be assassin of Englands King James I on Nov. 5, 1605. Guy Fawkes was also the inspiration the novel-turned-movie "V for Vendetta," in which the lead character takes on a fascist government in England. In several GOP presidential debates, the libertarian Paul has all-but called George W. Bush a fascist taking issue with the Administrations policies on domestic spying, for instance.
So does this mean Paul has a shot at the nomination? In a word: Nah. The Stiletto agrees with WaPo political blogger Chris Cillizzas: take:
Paul was widely seen as a political gadlfy when he entered the race, but through skill, luck or a little of both he has built himself into an Internet phenomenon.
It's not yet clear that Paul's online national community can deliver actual votes for him. While Paul is at the center of a national movement, it won't help him in Iowa or New Hampshire if thousands of people from California or Illinois are backing him.
There has always been a pot of money that exists for unconventional candidates who believe the system is fundamentally broken and are only tangentially affiliated with a party.
[H]is money and his message make him a actor in New Hampshire ... he remains a decided longshot ... the excitement and attention he is drawing would seem to be a perfect lead up to a third party candidacy if and when he loses the Republican nomination.
The Houston Chronicle reports that Jonathan Bydlak, the Paul campaigns fundraising director posted a message on the candidate's Web site that the ka-ching means just one thing: Ron Paul is for real." Maybe. But it appears his supporters are real (second item).
Note: The Stiletto writes about politics and other stuff at The Stiletto Blog.
I think you meant V For Vendetta. I'm pretty sure Guy Fawkes wasn't a extraterrestrial lizard :D
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LOL. I'd forgotten completely about the Lizard movie.
When Dean was rejected, and it was obvious that the reason was not "the scream" despite what this forum and right-wing radio believed, I wondered if the Dean loss was engineered by the DNC by building the Dick Morris roach spray strategy into the process or whether the DNC was simply ignoring the will of the electorate like the RNC does.In Washington State, the "R"s allocate half of their delegates based upon the results of the primary election. The "D"s don't use the primary results at all.
I know I’m in Texas, and Austin at that, but I see more Ron Paul yard signs and bumper stickers than those for any other candidate, by far. I’d almost go so far as to say I see as many for Dr. Paul as for all others combined - Republican and Democrat.
Tell me why the same liberal idiots who have been demanding “Chimpeachment” for years are claiming they have sent money to Paul?
Do you deny that STORMFRONT is supporting Paul in a big way? You can’t bury that...
The “Revolution” is being used to elect HILLARY, and to take our eye off the ball, nothing else...
Maybe I’m paranoid, but the RNC and the DNC do seem to decide on candidates for us. I remember Forbes making a lot of headway in Iowa with his kill the IRS speeches and Dole was dropping in support. The RNC did push polling about Forbes pro-abortion stance (which was totally untrue). It was Dole’s TURN... No one wanted the wounded Clinton out of office. He was too good a target to get rid of.
I don’t put ANYTHING past them in trying to derail the RON PAUL express!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .. He is the only conservative running.
Dr. Mercola - a very popular doc on the web, supports Paul.....just crazy.
“If Paul is the Republican nominee will you (or the other anti-Paulbots) support him?”
Somehow, I don’t think we are in any danger of that. Republican primary voters aren’t as stupid as our Democrat bretheren...
Me, too. In fact, he's got a regular street corner contingent every Friday. A lot of people honk when they drive by.
Mr. Hsu has proven the number of supporters and actual amount of dollars are irrelevant.
Hsu funnelled chinese money to Hillary’s campaign (until the media blackout stopped the story) and it was very apparent it was not about bundling but about “dividing” contributions among shell names.
Paul supporters have been exposed using fake email originations. No reason not to believe fake dollar originations are not the same.
A very interesting question that should be asked of those who seem to have no interest other than trashing Ron Paul.
The real Ron Paul bashers are the MSM media who only want Rudy vs Hillary...
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Ron Paul is another Puppet
I keep reading your posts, on this thread and others, and I come away with the impression that you are all fairly intelligent but kinda stuck in your ways. You all write well but if you read well your comprehension seems to be minimal.
Ron Paul IS for real! So is his campaign and despite your continued unfounded claims, his money DOESN’T come from George Soros. Anyone with a minimum IQ could easily see that it would be impossible to set up a network to make thousands of small donations which would add up to over $4M. Granted, it is possible for some (I couldn’t because I don’t know how) to inflate poll results through the use of overseas computers but when it comes to money, I seriously doubt all those poll numbers would result in the same number of donations.
Now then, like you, I doubt he will get the nomination let alone the Presidency. As others have noted, TPTB have already bought and paid for the next POTUS and the election is merely a form of “bread and circuses” meant to keep us in line. As with the original Roman circus, some will give the “thumbs up” to the eventual winner and some will disagree. In the end though, it will be the Emperor’s vote that counts. As to who the Emperor is? I have no idea and neither do you. I know it sure ain’t us ‘cause no one listens to us anymore except when they want a laugh.
Very nice straw-man you have there. The reason to not support Ron Paul is that he's insane. He has a very poor grasp on reality. As for anti-tax, pro-family, anti-big-government...those are great stances. Ron Paul doesn't hold a monopoly on those, however.
Somewhere in TV land I noted an English interviewee using the term "Firecracker day"...guess PC is working on this bit of history like so many others.
“He’d probably hurt Hillary as much or more than he’d hurt the Republican candidate”
That is the funniest comment I’ve read in days. You gave me a big laugh. You ARE kidding, right??????
Ron Paul may prove to be the only exception. At least that is my belief.
Read the article at the link and tell me if you disagree with Jim Schwiesow. I think he makes a good case that the Republican Party has betrayed Conservatism.
Paging Mr. Hsu, paging Mr. Hsu....
Sorry, norton, but Hsu didn’t make a bunch of separate donations of $100 or less. He tried to make $2300 donations that he claimed were smaller amounts ‘bundled’ together.
who happens to be an anti-war kook, who sympathizes with “9/11 Truthers” and is stuck in 1885 economically...
News Flash - Ron Paul is not running as a third-party conservative, he is running as a Republican, and not a single primary or caucus ballot has been cast yet.
I live in Santa Barbara County in California and Ron Paul support is BIG on college campuses. Ron Paul is a modern day RFK. My kids are young adults and Ron Paul is the most popular candidate with their friends, most of whom have a natural left bent. These kids know that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.
I could support Ron Paul EXCEPT for his position on the WOT. These kids are fired up. There is tremendous passion for his candidacy. No one else running has that.
The founders of the US were considered terrorists by the Crown. They accomplished 170-some years later what Guy Fawkes couldn't - an overthrow of the rule of the English monarchy.
Treason against tyranny is loyalty to liberty.
I like Ron Paul. I believe that he is honest in his beliefs and might have made a decent president at one time.
Unfortunately, Ron Paul is behind with the times. His candidacy seems to be based on the notion that 9/11 never happened, which really has quite dangerous ramifications in this day and age.
9/11 didn’t refute the ideas that Ron Paul is running on. It would probably be sound policy in normal times, were we living in them.
Unfortunately, times are not sound. We are in the midst of war with a dangerous enemy which ultimately wants us to convert or die. We are at war with an enemy who will go to any length and means necessary to cause as much destruction as possible in order to obtain its goals. For a while I myself thought this was hyperbole, but reflection on the facts reminded me that it is quite true
Our enemies want us out of the Middle East so that they can seize control of the governments there. They want control over the world’s oil, as it will give them tremendous leverage in dealing with the rest of us. If they are allowed to progress to these stages, they WILL wage a “convert or die” jihad against the rest of us, and will most likely have the means to do it. Terrorism is just about implementing the first stages of their operation.
Ron Paul does not understand this. He spoke of “blow back” in a debate a few months ago, but failed to note that the reason we’ve been active in the Middle East for so long is the fact that a very vital resource is at stake which cannot be allowed to fall into unaccountable hands. We push for representative governments and free markets in the Middle East because they ultimately benefit us and everyone else. The terrorists don’t like us there because we stand in the way of their own goals.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - Ron Paul, if somehow elected, may very well be successful in dismantling the structures set up amidst our War on Terror. If he does so, there will most likely be another catastrophic event and it will be on his head. He will be a lame duck as he tries to scramble to reinstate the policies that President Bush has wisely implemented, as he was the one who imprudently took them apart in the first place.
The last thing we’ll need in that situation is a lame duck president.
He’s certainly no worse than a liberal, gun-grabbing transvestite who is stuck in 9/11/2001.
Unlike the other candidates, Paul doesn't just pay lip-service to the issues (small government, anti-tax, pro-gun, pro-family) -- he has conviction and belief.
Single-issue voters, manipulated by fear, would throw a true conservative under the bus and vote for Hillary.
Stop being afraid and vote for your values.
Nope. What Republicans would be tempted to go 3rd-Party for a guy who opposes the Iraq War, and whose foreign policy ideas are basically insane?
Now, whackadoodle leftist Democrats, on the other hand.... those ideas are pretty attractive to them.
A 3rd-party Ron Paul would never get more than 4% anyway (and that's being extremely generous), and a lot of that 4% would be Nader-style Democrats.
That is the funniest comment Ive read in days. You gave me a big laugh. You ARE kidding, right??????
Over a third of self-identified Republicans oppose the Iraq situation according to a national poll. Over seventy percent of independents do, and 90% of Dems.
And even after a drubbing in 2006, Republicans are still charging forward with a slate of presidential candidates all but one of whom differ only on how soon and how much we should bomb Iran and broaden our military involvement in the Middle East, and maybe some variations on the proper use of torture.
Who's "insane" here? Who has a very poor grasp on reality?
You know that the only way Paul can do that, is to run as a 3rd party candidate, which he said he wouldn't.
Doesn't mean anything.
If Paul does run as a 3rd party candidate, why do you care? Funny how you guys DON'T want Paul to run as a Republican but deep down you DON'T want him to run as a 3rd party candidate. Make up your fricking minds.
Ron Paul was right all these years. Soon, everyone will know it.
Nov. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar slid to record lows against the euro and the Canadian dollar after a Chinese government adviser said plans to diversify foreign-exchange reserves will involve buying better-performing currencies.
The currency slumped to a 26-year low against the pound and a 23-year low against the Australian dollar. Cheng Siwei, vice chairman of China's National People's Congress, told a conference in Beijing the country ``will favor stronger currencies'' when adjusting its $1.43 trillion of reserves. He later added that doesn't mean buying more euros.
"We're likely to see further pressure on the dollar,'" said Thomas Harr, senior foreign exchange strategist in Singapore at Standard Chartered Plc, a U.K. bank that makes most of its profit in Asia. "The potential for diversification is quite big. This a structurally negative story for the dollar."
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