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Postmodernism At Work
Independent Individualist ^ | Apr 29, 2008 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 04/29/2008 10:20:32 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: weatherwax
I find your assertion re your scientific degree and years of practice unlikely.
I have too many years of lecturing at University not to recognise a post-grad in his early 20’s. If you are 35+ yrs
experience, what has happened to concretise your brain, that you sound 21?
After all, nothing is provable. Please prove your assertions to me, here and now!!

Nice try.

But if you are accusing me of having a "beginners mind" like a 21-year-old I take that as a compliment, though I am sure you didn't mean it that way.

61 posted on 04/29/2008 4:03:29 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Hank

Yes, Hank, I agree with your comments about how this site has been taken over and swamped out with people very different to those who used to be here.
I gave up on it when I realised it no longer supported the American Constitution - read the responses to Ilana Mercers article about the wrong being done to a religious sect in Texas.
And after reading the disgusting filth hurled at Ron Paul at this site, I really knew the leftie luvver greenie post modern idiots had swamped the place and left.
I only returned to read this thread after you bringing it to my attention.
I doubt I’ll ever be back though. Who’d want to start their day reading this sort of abusive revolting stuff?
Cheers and all the best


63 posted on 04/29/2008 4:10:18 PM PDT by weatherwax (Let none who might belong to himself belong to another: Agrippa)
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To: Hank Kerchief; All

Very interesting article and thread. Thanks to all contributors.


64 posted on 04/29/2008 4:24:43 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Billthedrill

I have to tell you, I so totally enjoyed your post that I don’t even care that I do not agree with one thing you said. Russell, Whitehead (the total mystic) and Wittgenstein (the repressed pedophile) were perhaps the most dangerous philosophers since Hume and Kant, but you at least know when you are spouting nonsense, they never did.

Thank you so much for your intelligent and erudite, though I think mistaken, comments.

Hank


65 posted on 04/29/2008 4:25:04 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

“most dangerous philosophers since Hume and Kant”

Do you object to Berkley and Hegel as well?


66 posted on 04/29/2008 4:28:15 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Hank Kerchief
Well, I got the part about being full of crap right at least.

:-)

67 posted on 04/29/2008 4:31:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: x
Missile technology went into the NASA program, it didn't come out of it. We would have gotten a lot more “bang for the buck” building and testing more ICBMs rather than investing in a moonshot. Getting to the moon before the Russians is just as important (although much less applicable to the ongoing education of our Scientists) as having a particle accelerator as good as or better than the Europeans.

It is a point of national pride that we are second to nobody in the world in particle Physics, and we can do the research right here in the U.S.A.. Moreover particle accelerator technology has improved our knowledge and use of magnetics and super-conduction as well as Physics. The rail gun is probably directly attributable to accelerator technology.

And I do agree with Wilson about the greatness of Science as a pursuit in and of itself; without regard to its applicability to making bullets or bombs.

I do not know to what extent I am for government spending on any of the things that make our Nation great (art, poetry, music, science); but the moon shot and a major particle accelerator are two endeavors that would wait possibly forever for private industry; if not for visionary Statesmen who also saw it as a point of National pride to have these things accomplished by America.

Our government spends over a trillion a year nowadays, at lest we have a few things to show for it; Scientific accomplishments like putting men on the moon, and particle accelerators not being the least of it. After all we shouldn't spend it ALL on graft, welfare, Medicaid, social security, foreign aid, and national defense.

68 posted on 04/29/2008 4:34:59 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: All; Hank

Ms. Hewitt has said she will make comments regarding her post, but only on The Autonomist.
http://theautonomist.com/home/


69 posted on 04/29/2008 4:43:57 PM PDT by weatherwax (Let none who might belong to himself belong to another: Agrippa)
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To: allmendream

due to an oversight the post no. 62 addressed to weatherwax is actually addressed to you.


70 posted on 04/29/2008 4:46:41 PM PDT by weatherwax (Let none who might belong to himself belong to another: Agrippa)
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To: Hank Kerchief

Keep me on...


71 posted on 04/29/2008 5:05:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Rev. Wright "ministered" to Bill Clinton after Monica. Is that a hint?)
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To: weatherwax; Soliton; Coyoteman
Due to an oversight it was also probably addressed to Soliton as it was he who said her view as “Lamarckian” and offered to debate her; possibly also to Coyoteman as you are confused about his age and make the same accusation towards me.

Maybe you are just confused.

72 posted on 04/29/2008 5:08:10 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: weatherwax
Ron Paul truther?

Confused. Way Confused.

Here is a hint. Fire melts steel. ;) Go tell it to Rosie O’Doughnut and Ron Paul. Or is Ron Paul still too busy publishing a Neo-Nazi newsletter under his name?

73 posted on 04/29/2008 5:12:46 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Coyoteman
I didn't know you did mtDNA! Too cool Coyoteman! Back before my graduate degree I worked for the company that did mtDNA to identify the remains of the Unknown Soldier from Viet Nam. Very neat stuff that Molecular Evolution!

“Here rests in Honored Glory
An American Soldier
Known But to God”

74 posted on 04/29/2008 5:45:16 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: allmendream
I don't actually "do" the mtDNA; I select the samples, wrangle the permission, submit them to the labs, and then try to keep up with the literature enough to figure out what the results mean.

Unfortunately, I am at the stage where the information I am looking for is not yet in print.

75 posted on 04/29/2008 5:55:23 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
LOL. Happens all the time.

I usually research a “Protein of Interest” only to find that all the things that I want to know about it are “awaiting publication”.

76 posted on 04/29/2008 6:02:26 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: Soliton

This is what you think science is?

“Science IS debate. You make an assertion and back it with logic and evidence. Your opponent makes a counter assertion an hopefully has logical reasoning and evidence to back their claim. Science evolves through the filter (natural selection) of logic and evidence. Hypotheses that canot (sic) survive logic and evidence perish; those that can, propagate”

You think there are “opponents” in science? Is it some kind of game to you? Do you not know real scientists are all allies in the search for the truth of the nature of reality?

Hank


77 posted on 04/29/2008 6:10:07 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Borges
Do you object to Berkley and Hegel as well?

You really have to ask?

Object, is not exactly the right word, though, It's just that they were wrong about so much, which would not matter, if their influence was not so great. (Actually, I believe Hegel was demented.)

I've not reached them yet, but if you are interested, I have some comments on Hume, who begin all the "skepticism" that led to the destruction of philosophy that was just beginning to get back on track with Locke (read Aristotle).

10. Hume, Father of Postmodernism and Anti-rationalism—Part 1 of 4

11. Hume, Father of Postmodernism and Anti-rationalism—Part 2 of 4

12. Hume, Father of Postmodernism and Anti-rationalism—Part 3 of 4

13. Hume, Father of Postmodernism and Anti-rationalism—Part 4 of 4

If you bother with these (a part of an uncompleted series of article) you will at least understand the reasoning behind much of what I've said on this thread. Hank

78 posted on 04/29/2008 6:28:13 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

I tried to register for Hewitt’s preferred debate site, but for some reason I get no response.


79 posted on 04/29/2008 7:57:59 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Hank Kerchief
Do you not know real scientists are all allies in the search for the truth

I wish it were true. But the global warming debate is an obvious example of where you are wrong. The history of science has been one of competing schools making competing claims. Evidence and logic tipped the balance.

80 posted on 04/29/2008 8:02:13 PM PDT by Soliton
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