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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: struggle

However, if Obama forged this, he should be ushered out of the race for committing a felony.


451 posted on 07/03/2008 9:06:31 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: struggle

Were you in Japan as US military or is there a consular agreement that covers this?


452 posted on 07/03/2008 9:06:34 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: jrooney

Is this the copy of the resolution?

Calendar No. 715110th CONGRESS

2d Session

S. RES. 511
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 10, 2008
Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

April 24, 2008
Reported by Mr. LEAHY, without amendment

April 30, 2008
Considered and agreed to


RESOLUTION
Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States;

Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’;

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United Calendar No. 715110th CONGRESS2d SessionS. RES. 511RESOLUTIONRecognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.April 24, 2008Reported without amendmentStates.

IS THERE MORE TO IT THAN THIS? I DON’T SEE THE SINGLE- PARENT PROVISION. I just did a google search and this is what I found. Is this what the senate passed or is there more to it?


453 posted on 07/03/2008 9:07:40 PM PDT by davandbar (CLINTONThere's no limit to how much credit a man can get, if he doesn't care what he's actually done)
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To: jrooney
"Like I said, take off the knee pads for Obama, you are looking foolish and will not make it here until the election schilling for him."

LOL, another good one. I've lasted 10 years so I'm either a deeply embedded troll or, maybe, Im just trying to make sure we get it right on this one.

One way to find out is, for the second time now....please answer my question, did you go to the KOS link to see if the Israeli insider claim was true? Be glad to admit I was wrong, just show me where OpenDNA "suggests that others "print one up" for candidate Obama"

Still waiting...

454 posted on 07/03/2008 9:10:22 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: OldEagle

I was there as an ex-pat. We applied for an America birth certificate at a consulate, and received it around her 3rd mo. after birth. She has both a kosekishohon (indication of family linage in Japan) and an American birth certificate. I would doubt that even with that, she could qualify for the presidential race.

Like I said, if Obama puts this clear forgery on his website, he needs to go to jail for it. I’ve had to produce so many validated documents for my wife’s green card, it’s silly to think that Obama can’t even show a STAMPED SIGNED certificate of live birth.


455 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:29 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Coffee200am
How about some eye witness, neighbors, flight attendants via any Honolulu-Kenya flights, nurses, physicians. Again, some neighbors, anyone...does anyone know B Hussein in his birth/infant/toddler years?

All we want are details. Hussein must provide the details of his original name, how he came about being referred to as Barry, and then Barack Hussein Obama.

And did Hussein legally change his name birth name in college from Barry Soetoro to B Hussein Obama? If so, why? Did he have some kind of conversion that made him want to suddenly go by his muslim name?

And is it true that shortly after legally changing his name while in college, he traveled to Karachi, Pakistan for 3 weeks? How old was he? Early 20's? Why is dude traveling to Pakistan after changing his name, which reflected his muslim heritage? Muhammed Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabar both changed their names to reflect their new found muslim religion.

Why would a typical-college student go to Pakistan for a vacation? Pakistan obviously wasn't any type of tourist attraction any college student would seek out. Dude was into drugs for awhile, so he knows how to party. Why would he venture to the Middle East for his Spring Break, where there are no drugs or alcohol? Can anyone verify that he changed his name in college and then took his Spring Break to the Middle East?

Did he visit Karachi, Pakistan, where Osama Bin Laden’s #2 man was found and killed? Then after being there for 3 weeks, did Hussein go to Hyderabad, a large Muslim stronghold in India, for 1 more week? These are not vacation hot spots like Orlando or Daytona Beach. Why did he go there, where the terror cells were born. Did he speak about the trip in his first book?

He just needs to walk us through his conversion from Barry to Barack Hussein and his sudden vacation to Karach, Pakistan & Hyderabad, India - the large Muslim stronghold in India. Preferably in a town hall meeting with John McCain.

Hussein needs to be pounded DAILY about refusing to meet McCain in down-to-earth, real-world town meetings. If Hussein is scared to meet JM at a town hall meeting, how is the lying punk going to deal with terrorists who want to slit our throats? Every journalist on a daily basis needs to ask him why he's afraid to meet JM at a couple of town hall meetings.

456 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:49 PM PDT by hollister23
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To: ErnBatavia
WRONG...

McCain has losers taking him to court in multiple states questioning his eligibility to run. News Flash: McCain is eligible to run for President. So why should Hussein get special treatment in this area?

Hussein has so many LIES on record about his background, it's a wonder Clinton's hacks didn't pursue this further. Difference is Clinton's hacks were worried about being politically correct due to the race issue. But we don't have to worry about that, because Hussein, his wife and his fake-Pastor of 20 years, former Muslim-Wright are the racists, and there is nothing wrong in calling them on their lies.

All anyone wants is accurate, documented evidence of his eligibility and truth about his MUSLIM background. Ie: Details about why Hussein find the muslim call to prayer is one of the most beautiful sounds on earth, per NYT.

Because Hussein continues to LIE about his muslim upbringing, many are going to continue question him on it. Why can't he just be honest about it? He already admitted it in one of his books.

Why do you care what some supposed outside forces in your imagination think about those that want to know about Hussein's childhood on FR.

Hussein is sketchy, he's a fraud, he LIES about his muslim background and that's the truth. The FACT that he lies about his muslim background brings into question anything that comes out of his mouth.

457 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:54 PM PDT by hollister23
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To: SE Mom; nobama08

I heard he “taught” constitutional law.


458 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:55 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: sam_paine
Are you kidding!!! These are normal vetting questions. McCain has curious leftists taking him to court and he's eligible. Why should Hussein get a free pass?

Set up? That's a joke. This is the biggest opportunity to spread the word about Hussein's Indonesian upbringing, his study of the Koran - his words from his first book. There is no lose on this issue. He is Hiding his muslim background. Why? Why? Why can't he be upfront that he was a muslim and has since supposedly converted to Christianity? Hmmmm...And it's not about him being muslim...it's about him lying about it.

This is the first opportunity of hopefully many to drill home why many are suspicious of his background. Have you ever met a muslim who has converted to Christianity? That act much different than Hussein. He was raised a muslim, talked about it in first book, but denies it in 2008. lol

459 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:55 PM PDT by hollister23
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To: FreeReign
Whatever the outcome, what it shows is that Hussein is THE most unprofessional candidate to EVER run for office of Presidency of the history of the United States. He's pathetic and an embarrassment to our country.

It should NEVER have been a question. And when he found out it was a question, he should have sincerely put the question to rest with the appropriate documents.

This guy is a diabolical and his campaign is amateur and shady. This should never have been an issue. The fact that voters have to pursue this information on their own, shows that Hussein lacks integrity and has zero respect for the office and citizens of the United States.

Disgusting - Hussein is. It's like he's running for class president of his Indonesian school. You know - the place where he grew up and studied the Koran...which he never talks about. What else can you expect from the sleazy Chicago career politicians though.

Hussein is disgusting and takes us all for chumps. He seriously does not care about us. He's an elitist and can't relate to the average patriotic American.

460 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:55 PM PDT by hollister23
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To: FreeReign
Whatever the outcome, what it shows is that Hussein is THE most unprofessional candidate to EVER run for office of Presidency of the history of the United States. He's pathetic and an embarrassment to our country.

It should NEVER have been a question. And when he found out it was a question, he should have sincerely put the question to rest with the appropriate documents.

This guy is a diabolical and his campaign is amateur and shady. This should never have been an issue. The fact that voters have to pursue this information on their own, shows that Hussein lacks integrity and has zero respect for the office and citizens of the United States.

Disgusting - Hussein is. It's like he's running for class president of his Indonesian school. You know - the place where he grew up and studied the Koran...which he never talks about. What else can you expect from the sleazy Chicago career politicians though.

Hussein is disgusting and takes us all for chumps. He seriously does not care about us. He's an elitist and can't relate to the average patriotic American.

461 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:56 PM PDT by hollister23
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To: OldEagle
Yes, yes, and yes. That's why the fake BC matters, and that's why it would matter if he were born in Kenya. I have seen nothing particularly credible or compelling to suggest that he was born in Kenya, but this admission that the birth certificate is forged does raise an eyebrow (at least,) no? After all, the fake birth certificate was posted on the Obama official site "fightthesmears.com" in answer to the smear that he was not born in the United States.

Now that answer needs to be...uh...extended and revised, don't you think?

462 posted on 07/03/2008 9:14:14 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: WOSG
There is a heck of a lot of GOOD material to go after Obama on, not this diversion.

That's exactly what this is, a diversion.

All the time on this let's Obama skate on the real bad stuff such as his 0% liberal voting record. The Clintons were good at setting up diversions like this.

463 posted on 07/03/2008 9:14:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: icwhatudo

For those who think that the BHO BC that was posted, was then “blanked” out and put on photobucket......

That would be VERY difficult to do. Why?

To have blanked out the text of the BHO and then replaced those areas with the hatched green pattern, and then have that hatched pattern align so well, would be almost impossible. If that had been done, it would have already been discovered considering the amount of scrutiny the document has gotten.

I have used PhotoShop for 10 years extensively. That hatched pattern would be almost impossible to blank out and copy the pattern from another area of the BC. If the background was fairly solid, it would be easy. But that hatched pattern would be very very difficult.

If the BC is real, and was scanned, it would not be perfectly flat, and the hatching would not be 100% symtrical across the entire document. That is why many government documents have patterns like that. It makes them hard to manipulate and duplicate.

If you created a blank one, then you could save as a template. Pull it up, edit, and put whatever text you wanted.

But to start with a scanned document with that kind of pattern. Then to blank/replace those text areas with a pefectly matched hatch pattern would be very near impossible.

Pull up a document like that in Photoshop and try it yourself.

IMO, the BHO BC could not have been “blanked” and then used to create all the other documents. It started with a blank or created document. The BHO forgery was created. Then all the others from the same blank template.


464 posted on 07/03/2008 9:15:29 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: taraytarah

They don’t have the power to do that.We have some heavy hitter’s on our side.


465 posted on 07/03/2008 9:15:33 PM PDT by fatima
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To: PhatHead
...but this admission that the birth certificate is forged does raise an eyebrow.

I don't see clear evidence that B.O. posted a forged document.

466 posted on 07/03/2008 9:17:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: fatima; David

Seems we do.


467 posted on 07/03/2008 9:18:20 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: David

Now, Did you just find this out? That is a scary bit of info.


468 posted on 07/03/2008 9:18:39 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: Anayo

Check it out! I TOLD you so!


469 posted on 07/03/2008 9:19:59 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: TribalPrincess2U
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider’s revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the diligent detective work of independent investigative journalists (led by JimJ and Texas Darling) and imaging professionals such as Polarik in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate The Daily Kos, a “progressive” blog site, and the Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of highly doubtful provenance. Moreover, the blog and the campaign have been negligent in allowing the promotion of obviously forged and fake official documents together with the purported image of Obama’s birth certificate.
 
Ping!

470 posted on 07/03/2008 9:22:22 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (This adjustable font brought to you by the free market.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) wrote her legislative fix on a yellow legal pad, which she delivered to the Senate clerk, to ensure that any person born to U.S. citizens serving in the armed services while stationed abroad would qualify to become president of the United States. Obama Backs Law Helping McCain.LINK.
471 posted on 07/03/2008 9:23:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: SE Mom

BFL


472 posted on 07/03/2008 9:24:31 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: smithone

I think the Repubs put out the question about McCain’s citizenship so they could the one step further with Obama the more I read this.Maybe he really believed he was born in the US.I would if that’s what my Mom told me/Why was it so important to her to make sure that he was shown to be born here?Maybe just to get the help the US provides.It is all a sad tale.Losing your Mom and Dad not really there while you got older.A lot of people can see why he says Hope and Change but he must be truthful or people will turn against him.


473 posted on 07/03/2008 9:28:05 PM PDT by fatima
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To: SE Mom; pissant; expatguy; David; Miss Didi; AliVeritas; Grampa Dave; Beckwith; holdonnow; ...
Bump for later read. Thanks, Mom ................... FRegards
474 posted on 07/03/2008 9:30:21 PM PDT by gonzo ("Shall Not Be Infringed" - The SCOTUS got it right ... for now ... FRegards)
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To: FreeReign
That's exactly what this is, a diversion.

Using fraudulent, falsified documents is a crime. If you did it in your profession you'd be ignominiously canned. If BO, through his Smears website is pushing false ID, then that is a big deal that leads directly to question his character and credibility.

475 posted on 07/03/2008 9:30:51 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: SE Mom
(sigh) Another Swift Boating* by those evil Republicans who just don't like black people...

*Swift Boating = An inconvenient truth told about a Democrat

476 posted on 07/03/2008 9:30:56 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (American secret agent in enemy territory (Cambridge, MA))
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To: icwhatudo

Correct, you aren’t ‘seeing’ it. It was demonstrated a forgery, OpenDNA or not.


477 posted on 07/03/2008 9:33:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: davandbar
IS THERE MORE TO IT THAN THIS? I DON’T SEE THE SINGLE- PARENT PROVISION. I just did a google search and this is what I found. Is this what the senate passed or is there more to it?

More.

That's just a sense of the Senate resolution. In earlier iterations, it was a bill modifying 8 USCA Sec. 1401.

478 posted on 07/03/2008 9:34:11 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

Do you have a link to the full resolution (or bill or whatever it is) that was passed? I am dying to read the full text.


479 posted on 07/03/2008 9:36:49 PM PDT by davandbar (CLINTONThere's no limit to how much credit a man can get, if he doesn't care what he's actually done)
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To: txflake

Bingo. That has been my suspicion for a couple weeks. But I wanted to focus on proving the forgery first and foremost. Now we can think about motives.


480 posted on 07/03/2008 9:37:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: fatima
Are you referring to my post about interfering with the website?
481 posted on 07/03/2008 9:37:29 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Plutarch

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/06/20/was_obamas_certificate_of_birth_manufactured.thtml

Scroll down...lots of images.

This is cute:

“...All of the type on this document was produced by the same program.

Whatever made the text for all of the headings also made the text for all of the entries...”


482 posted on 07/03/2008 9:38:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: WOSG

You’re positive about that, huh?


483 posted on 07/03/2008 9:39:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: txflake

Yes,...a 40 to 1 ratio is not unusual...


484 posted on 07/03/2008 9:40:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: icwhatudo

IT was proven a forgery long ago, ace.


485 posted on 07/03/2008 9:42:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: David

I love you, man


486 posted on 07/03/2008 9:42:48 PM PDT by txhurl (hot diggity dog!)
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To: txflake
Of course we do.We Zap first.Ask the Military on the forum-heeheeehe
487 posted on 07/03/2008 9:42:49 PM PDT by fatima
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To: pissant

Whoa, brother, icwhatyoudo brought down the Frosts, have slack.


488 posted on 07/03/2008 9:44:32 PM PDT by txhurl (hot diggity dog!)
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To: muawiyah; David
"Natural born" simply means he was a citizen from his birth ~ usually on account of his mother's or father's citizenship, and where the birth happened. Several posters have referred to the "law at the time he was born" noting that the law was later changed in the 1970s. It's noteworthy that when the law was changed, it served to clarify the status of all born in similar circumstances who were still living.

This happens all the time ~ the old law is repealed and is no longer in effect, and the new law takes over AND it affects everyone alive!

I don't think that is accurate, but I will defer to somebody more versed in the law than I... David?

489 posted on 07/03/2008 9:47:42 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: jrooney

I’ve read your comment to me three times and it just doesn’t make sense.


490 posted on 07/03/2008 9:47:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Red Steel
So it appears that we are now part of the dark conspiracy that Danielle Allen was talking about. The girl from that think tank that pays her to think about stuff way, way, too high falutin' for us knuckledraggers.

(I keep gettin' that durn' red line under falutin'. Is it 1 L or 2?)

491 posted on 07/03/2008 9:47:57 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Bahbah
I think that would be admission to the State Bar of Illinois. Now I'm wondering if he took the bar exam. Required for admission.

There is also his information

Illinois Registration Status: Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law - Last Registered Year: 2008

He let his registration lasp? .. why?

492 posted on 07/03/2008 9:50:37 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: hollister23
McCain has losers taking him to court in multiple states questioning his eligibility to run. News Flash: McCain is eligible to run for President. So why should Hussein get special treatment in this area?

As set forth above, for the reasons specified, I think the Supreme Court would hold McCain is not eligible to serve as President under Article II, Sec. 1, Par. 4.

Tactically, if I were in charge and had resources to pursue the issue, I would either start and certify a multi state action seeking as a remedy to decertify all Obama's elected delegates and then attempt to consolidate with all of the actions against McCain; or I would attempt to get a state to authorize an original jurisdiction action seeking that remedy on grounds comparable to the equal protection holding in Bush v. Gore.

I think the case plays better politically if you are attacking both of them--this isn't a partisan issue; it is an American Constitutional issue.

493 posted on 07/03/2008 9:50:53 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Eagles6
that's highfalutin...one word, I think.
494 posted on 07/03/2008 9:51:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: null and void

A BC is a public record null and void, I’ve gotten copies of other people’s BC’s (at their request) and the copy just had “copy” stamped all over it.

Granted that was before ID Fraud became the menace that it is today, in the past it was no big deal.


495 posted on 07/03/2008 9:53:43 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Is 51/ Heller vindicates GWB...armatismi is libertismi)
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To: FreeReign
I don't see clear evidence that B.O. posted a forged document.

I agree, but this is not a court of law. Circumstantially, at least from what I have gleaned over the last couple of days, the certificates on fightthesmears.com and dailykos appear to be derived from the same file, which now has been reported to be a forgery.

I will be interested to see the BHO campaign's response.

496 posted on 07/03/2008 9:54:49 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Plutarch
Using fraudulent, falsified documents is a crime. If you did it in your profession you'd be ignominiously canned. If BO, through his Smears website is pushing false ID, then that is a big deal that leads directly to question his character and credibility.

Gee really?

Of course if B.O. is pushing false documents on his website, it's a big deal. I never said that it wasn't.

My point is that from what I've seen on this thread I can't come to the conclusion that B.O. is using forged documents.

It may eventually pan out that he did, but I doubt it.

497 posted on 07/03/2008 9:55:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: gswilder
To have blanked out the text of the BHO and then replaced those areas with the hatched green pattern, and then have that hatched pattern align so well, would be almost impossible. If that had been done, it would have already been discovered considering the amount of scrutiny the document has gotten. I have used PhotoShop for 10 years extensively. That hatched pattern would be almost impossible to blank out and copy the pattern from another area of the BC. If the background was fairly solid, it would be easy. But that hatched pattern would be very very difficult. If the BC is real, and was scanned, it would not be perfectly flat, and the hatching would not be 100% symtrical across the entire document. That is why many government documents have patterns like that. It makes them hard to manipulate and duplicate.

Guess what--one of the first attacks was based on the fact that in the altered areas, the hatch lines fail to line up. Someone else has already demonstrated that flaw.

498 posted on 07/03/2008 9:55:46 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“if Obama was born outside the US”

*if* ... If a meteor falls into earth on election day ...
would they call the election off?

If Obama’s birth cert is not real, does it even mean anything, since he was bonr in hawaii?
... would that help the Republicans win a majority in Congress in the next election?


499 posted on 07/03/2008 9:55:57 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
The second case could ensure their defeat if McCain decides to use his opponent's lack of qualifications for the job as a campaign issue.

Obama would be defeated as surely as Torricelli and Carnahan, you mean?

500 posted on 07/03/2008 9:56:53 PM PDT by supercat
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