Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[SE Mom]

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

[Fred Nerks]

FOR THE RECORD:

The Mysterious Shadow: Code Name Obama
Pravda ^ | December 18, 2008 | Mark S. McGrew

Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:42:03 PM by CalifScreaming

This document alone raises a big question. It is his registration in the State of Illinois for his license to practice Law. The document has a space to list any other names that have been used. Even though he has used other names, this shows, “None”. The other names he has used, that we currently know are: Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2152988/posts

Result, Lawyer Search: Barack Hussein Obama:

http://www.iardc.org/ldetail.asp?id=344076812

[little jeremiah]

I can’t read it well enough to see if the twins are there, I tried...

I doubt if anyone can without diong all kinds of techincal stuff.

[Chief Engineer]

There are NO white twin girls in the kindergarten picture from Noelani Elementary School and of the birth announcements from what is featured here there is no announcement for Mr and Mrs Nordyke, daughters, born August 5th. Dates of birth which appear in that edition run from July 29th to August 5th.
I noticed that Mrs. Nordyke claims she sat at the same table as Madelyn Dunham for three weeks during a cruise to Tahiti in 2002 and claims that Madelyn told her Madelyn had raised her grandson who was a social worker in Chicago.By 2002 Jr was a state senator, and he was never a social worker. Any red flags being raised yet with the story as published?

[BP2]

In doing research, I'm going back and finding some harder-to-find photos -- perhaps they'll revive something we've seen in the past. Keep in mind that many of the descriptions of the photos is information fed by the Obama Campaign and, obviously, should be met with a level of skepticism.

From here: http://sweetshenu.multiply.com/journal/item/1961

US Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama is seen swinging a baseball bat as a child in an undated family

snapshot released by his presidential campaign, February 4, 2008. (Reuters)

Barack Obama with his Father, Barack Obama Sr. Obama Jr.'s father divorced his mother and left the family only two years after his birth.

He visited Obama Jr. only one more time, when Jr. was 10 years old, in Hawaii. (AP Photo/Obama Presidential Campaign, File)

US Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama is seen with his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, his sister Maya Soetoro and his mother Ann Dunham in an undated family snapshot released by his presidential campaign, February 4, 2008. (AP Photo/Obama Presidential Campaign, File)

This 1972 photo provided by Na Opio, the yearbook of Punahou School, shows Barack Obama, in back row, third from left, posing with

his 5th grade class at the Punahou Elementary School in Honolulu, Hawaii. (AP file photo)

Barack Obama with his maternal grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, photo taken while Obama was attending Columbia University.

(AP file photo)

Who is this man Barack and where did he come from? A picture is worth a thousand words!

WHERE DID HE COME FROM?

MOTHER and SON

FATHER and SON
Barack Obama Sr. poses with his son in the Honolulu airport
during Obama Sr.’s only visit to see his son while he was
growing up in Hawaii . Young Barack was in the 5th grade when the photo was taken

Barack Obama Sr., a native of Kenya , met his future wife while they were students at the University of Hawaii . In 1963, he essentially abandoned his family to continue his studies at Harvard.

Grandparents and Mom

THE DUNHAMS: precocious, self-assured
Stanley Ann (left); her impetuous father,
who named his only child after himself;
her mother, Madelyn, the quiet, firm
influence in the home.

At their home in Jakarta , Ann Dunham poses in this undated photo with her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, their daughter, Maya, and Barack Obama.

Mom, Sister and Barack

WHAT ARE GRANDPARENTS?

Barack Obama with his maternal grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham during a 1982 visit to New York , where Obama was attending Columbia . (Courtesy of The Obama Family)

[Kevmo]

I wanted to find out how many links were no longer valid
***I remember that, it was impressive. I relented on trying to keep up with this thread (perhaps even this whole topic) long ago when this thread had < 2000 posts.

[Chief Engineer]

LOL time weighs heavily when one has limited use of their primary arm so I put it to good use! Now I say the shattered upper right arm was taking one for the team and keep on looking under any rock I can find.

[LucyT]

Adding more excerpts from Pravda, for the record:

The Mysterious Shadow: Code Name Obama
Pravda ^ | December 18, 2008 | Mark S. McGrew

(Excerpts)

In order to be a Natural Born citizen, one parent can not be a foreign citizen, and Obama’s web site discloses that his father was a British subject. If Obama or Soetoro or Dunham had been born on the floor of the Oval Office, he is not eligible to be President.

[snip]

There is no proof that his grandmother died on the day his campaign said she did. The only announcment of her death that can be found is from his campaign people. But, who told them? There is no record. I absolutely defy anyone to prove that his grandmother, Madelyn Payne Lee Dunham died in Hawaii on November 2nd or 3rd of the year 2008.

[snip]

With his association with William Ayers, a man who advocated and tried a violent overthrow of the US Government in which people did die, with his associations with Communist Party and Socialist Party organizations, with his financial support of Raila Odingo, a cousin in Kenya who, because elections didn’t turn out as he wanted them to, caused riots, the burning and destruction of several hundred Christian churches, several thousand deaths, rapes and hundreds of thousands of displaced citizens in Kenya, Obama has shown that he has no qualms about violence being used to effect “change”.

[snip]

Regardless of the conspiracy theories, suspicions, accusations and investigations about Obama, the simple questions that stand out above all others: Is anyone in our military, any Federal employee, our Congress, our Senate, our Federal law enforcement agencies, our Federal intelligence agencies willing to follow his orders? Are they legally able to obey his orders? If they do obey his orders, and he is later declared to be ineligible, will the people who followed his orders be subjected to Nuremberg type trials in an International Court?

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/18-12-2008/106848-Code_Name_Obama-0

[LucyT]

Archived:

Barry Dunham Hussein Soretoro Obama’s friend, Bill Ayers’s wife is Bernardine Dohrn.

Bernardine Dohrn in her own words
1974 | Albert Seedman and Peter Hellman

Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 12:38:55 PM by sig226

“Here is another excerpt from Al Seedman’s book Chief! Chief! is a semi-autobiographical tale of Seedman’s work as a New York City Police Department Detective. He was Chief of Detectives when the Weathermen’s bombs exploded in the townhouse on 11th Street in Manhattan on March 6, 1970.”

[snip]

Check out ETL’s

#7

#12

#15

#17

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2152768/posts

“Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!”
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn

[Polarik]

but the 10,641st certification printed out SINCE THE SYSTEM STARTED - of a birth that supposedly took place on Ohau in 1961...without any indication of who that birth relates to.

It's a sequential number that is reset every year -- the birth year is part of that sequential number, so 10,641 refers to the 10,641st record of 1961.

I noticed that the birth certificate number on an actual birth certificate image as provided by Polarik is referred to as FILE NUMBER, it's from 1963 and has an entirely different format from what I can see.

The Certificate of Birth and Certification of Live Birth are two different forms. However, the file number is almost the same as the certificate number. It begins with 151 (indicating that this is a birth record), then the last two digits of the year (instead of YYYY on the COLB), then the sequential number of the birth record.

The difference also reflects the DATE FILED vs. DATE ACCEPTED dichotomy.

[Calpernia]

What about those two girls sitting next to each other in the middle?

[Calpernia]

I guess this is a stale mate.

http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568

NUREMBERG-STYLE TRIALS PROPOSED FOR GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/18-12-2008/106848-Code_Name_Obama-0

Excerpt:

Regardless of the conspiracy theories, suspicions, accusations and investigations about Obama, the simple questions that stand out above all others: Is anyone in our military, any Federal employee, our Congress, our Senate, our Federal law enforcement agencies, our Federal intelligence agencies willing to follow his orders? Are they legally able to obey his orders? If they do obey his orders, and he is later declared to be ineligible, will the people who followed his orders be subjected to Nuremberg type trials in an International Court?

[Calpernia]

Reminder ping to me to copy over etls post to Abu Zayd/Ayers thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2118588/posts
Don’t Need a Weatherman The clouded mind of Bill Ayers (2001)

[Gemsbok]

Here’s the article where I found the school photograph.
The age of school start date bothered me, since he is a year older than the others.
I questioned the authenticity, Polarik stated that it is unclear whether it is photoshopped because it is only a thumbnail.

http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2008/Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan/

[Chief Engineer]

I wonder if perhaps the date was wrongly placed on the photo making it for the year 1966-67 but Jr left after the first half of the year to go to Indonesia with his mother. From the article I posted yesterday Mrs. Nordyke claimed her twin daughters were in the same kindergarten class with Jr but there are no white twin girls in that photo!

[Chief Engineer]

One of the girls in the middle row is American Japanese ancestry as is the one on the end. The Nordyke twins were white. I couldn’t find a listing of the twins announcing their birth from the small sample provided either, and the anouncements run from the end of July to August 5th.

[Calpernia]

Thanks!

[Chief Engineer]

Quite welcome! After the eye strain making out the faces in the photo and reading through the birth announcements my eyes were ready for a rest.

[Fred Nerks]

thanks Polarik

[Gemsbok]

Thanks for all the ping-a-pinging that you do to keep all of us, up-to-date.

Merry Christmas and God Bless you Lucy!

[Albertafriend]

I really do not like this site in the following link because it is like Alex Johes’ junk but they do have the full pages from both of the papers and they can be enlarged to 400% and you are right there are no Nordykes listed. The announcements go up to the 7th. I was thinking it might be interesting to cross check them but I don’t have time to do that right now. Still lots to do to get ready for Christmas. Maybe we could contact the lady with the kindergarden picture and ask her which ones were the Nordyke twins.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php