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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: STARWISE
This could be the height of insanity

It certainly feels that way.

7,601 posted on 04/29/2009 8:06:58 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: STARWISE

As I suspected, once obozo took office he now commands the long arm of the govt & taxpayers monies to subvert or destroy anything related to his ineligibility


7,602 posted on 04/29/2009 8:56:39 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Further to my last post, I didn’t know Pelosi and Cheney have requested legal representation from the DOJ.

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Of the reasons for the time extension request, Assistant US Attorney Elizabeth Pascal mentions that Vice President Dick Cheney and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have both requested the DOJ to represent them in this matter. Also, per paragraph 8, Attorney Pascal mentions:

“I was unaware that I could move for an extension of time to answer, move, or otherwise respond to the complaint pending the representation decision for those Defendants”

and that:

“The Department is still processing that request and determining which Congressional Defendants it will represent.”

She also notes in paragraph 11:

“The delay in filing a response in this case would in no way prejudice the Plaintiffs, but would provide a fair opportunity for the Department to respond appropriately to the allegations in the Complaint…”

A footnote to this paragraph states:

“The Second Amended Complaint is extensive, as it is comprised of 12 counts, with 347 paragraphs and 43 single-spacedendnotes of allegations, and a 30-paragraph prayer for relief.”

More here, including the legal brief:

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=5835

_______________________________

Latest Update: (04/30/09)

Common Law Grand Jury Updates:

* Jury Update: Online Grand Jury Indicts Obama for Fraud, Treason
* Jury Update: Ft. Worth, TX Jury Forming; Citizen’s Organization Offers to Help; USAToday Publishes!
* Jury Update: American Grand Jury to Hear Evidence Soon
* Citizen Grand Jury: AGJ Reports 49 Member Requests, Swennson Found a Sheriff
* Citizen Jury Update: Illinois and Georgia
* GA: First Common Law National Grand Jury Convenes; Indictment Returned; ECR Interview
* WND: Citizens in 20 More States to Form Common Law Grand Juries
* New Site Speaks on Citizen Grand Jury Action in KY, OH, TN and IL; Update: GA Support for Jury, Taitz
* Leo Donofrio “Condemns” GA Common Law Grand Jury
* Concerned Citizens Encouraged to Contact US Attorney Over Eligibility

Supreme Court:

* Pennsylvania (James Schneller): (04/22/09)
o Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due May 18, 2009)
o Schneller v. Cortes
* California (Dr. Orly Taitz for Gail Lightfoot): (03/24/09)
o Lightfoot v. Bowen Refiled
o DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 23, 2009.
o Lightfoot v. Bowen
* Quo Warranto: (03/24/09)
o Quo Warranto Filed at SCOTUS
o Easterling v. Obama

DC Circuit Court of Appeals:

* DC (Gregory Hollister): (03/19/09)
o Appealed; Important dates for responses: 04/17 and 05/4
o Hollister v. Soetoro

Third Circuit Court of Appeals:

* Berg v. Obama (02/03/09)
o Clerk referring case to Merit Panel
o This case caused SCOTUS case for writ of cert to be denied

Federal Court for the District of Columbia:

* James v. Obama (03/29/09)
o James v. Obama: Motion for Quo Warranto, USDC for DC

Federal Court for the Central District of California:

* Keyes v. Obama (01/19/09)
o Legal Action Filed in CA Federal Court Based on Executive Order

Federal Court for New Jersey, Camden:

* Kerchner v. Obama (04/28/09)
o Defendants request 2nd time extension

At the State level: Latest update: 03/12/09

* California:
o Alan Keyes: Keyes v. Bowen (03/12/09)
+ Tentative Ruling Issued
+ Lawyers are seeking the public’s support
+ AmericaMustKnow history
o Joan Corbett: Corbett v. Bowen (11/16/08)
+ AmericaMustKnow history
* Florida:
o Spencer Connerat: Connerat v. Obama (04/14/09)
+ Florida Case Filed in Small Claims Court
* Hawaii:
o ICA Asked to Expedite Appeal
o Andy Martin: Martin v. Lingle (03/30/09)
* New York:
o Christopher Strunk Sur-Replies to State Department
o Christopher Strunk: Chris Strunk FOIA (02/23/09)
* North Carolina:
o New case to be submitted
o Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan: Sullivan v. Marshall (03/20/09)
+ AmericaMustKnow history

Other Reports: (02/09/09)

The following presumably does not include all above action:

* Various Other Cases Against Obama
* Per Stephen Pidgeon:
o London Solicitor working on UK connection
o Operatives looking for POE (Port Of Entry) info
o Leads in Seattle
o Leads in DC
* Phil Berg mentioned another Berg v. Obama case under seal at this time
* Georgia: Filed December 2008
* Alabama: Filed December 2008
* Illinois: Filed December 2008
* Michigan: Filed December 2008
* Virginia: Challenge
* Ohio: Challenge
* California: Legal action
* North Carolina: Legal action
* Massachusetts: Challenge
* Maryland: Commitment from numerous individuals to file a challenge
* Virgin Islands: Commitment to file a challenge

After Inauguration: (01/12/09)

* If all other actions fall through, Philip Berg plans on filing a Petition for Writ of Quo Warranto (be sure to read the linked wikipedia article], challenging the President-Elect’s qualifications for President

Seeking an Attorney (02/17/09)

* Ms. Cris Ericson: Ericson v. Obama (12/24/08)
o Challenging Obama’s birth certificate

Lawsuit with Military and ex-Military Plaintiffs

Per Dr. Orly Taitz’ recent commentary (now said to have approximately 50 Plaintiffs, one of whom is a blood relative of Obama)

[I]n re. to military case. We were planning to file today [01/08/09] in GA. A local attorney that was supposed to co-sign the papers has some personal problems. We need a local attorney in GA. Please contact me if you know of a GA attorney that can co-sign simply for the purpose of receipt of the documents from the court.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?page_id=1518

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For an archive of defunct cases, see the page Eligibility Case Archive.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?page_id=3214


7,603 posted on 04/30/2009 11:42:18 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: PhilDragoo; Fred Nerks; Iowan; Rushmore Rocks; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; Oorang; null and void; ...

Read backwards a few posts to catch up.

Older article:

Marxist ‘mentor’ sold drugs with Obama
Alleged Communist Party member published book boasting of sex with minors

HONOLULU, Hawaii – The late Marxist activist Frank Marshall Davis, frequently accompanied by young Barack Obama and his grandfather Stanley Armour Dunham, sold marijuana and cocaine from a “Chicago style” hot dog cart Davis operated near his home on Kuhio Avenue in Waikiki in the early 1970s, WND has established.

A credible source, a well-known resident of Honolulu who spoke at length with WND on condition he not be named, disclosed that Davis was the source of drugs consumed by Obama

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In “Dreams from My Father,” Obama admits his grandfather drank alcohol with Davis, “sharing whiskey with Gramps out of an emptied jelly jar.”

Obama also admits in the autobiography that his grandfather took him “downtown to one of his favorite bars, in Honolulu’s red-light district.”

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Obama also admitted in his autobiography that in his first two years in college at Occidental he was involved with drugs: “I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.”

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Openly, he wrote, “I knew I would be described as a Communist, but frankly I had reached the stage where I didn’t give a damn. Too many people I respected as Freedom Fighters were listed as Red for me to fear name calling.”

Davis wrote, “The genuine Communists I knew as well as others so labeled had one principle in common: to use any and every means to abolish racism.” Davis said he wrote to give “the widest possible publicity to the many instances of racism and the dissatisfaction of Afro-American with the status quo.”

It gets a whole lot worse:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79467


7,604 posted on 05/02/2009 1:31:35 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

You’re right, LucyT. It does get a whole lot worse. What a pervert Davis was. And Gramps was a buddy of his as well as the young and impressionable Barack? I’d read some of this before and chose to “selectively” forget it. But it never goes away...


7,605 posted on 05/02/2009 3:01:19 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: azishot

IF I had the time and the money I would spend the year or two it would take and do a book on zero. No telling what you would find.


7,606 posted on 05/02/2009 4:21:46 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: LucyT; All

Thanks for the ping. I found the link below in my 008 Soetoro file. The link really illustrates your information.

http://brianakira.wordpress.com/


7,607 posted on 05/02/2009 6:22:12 PM PDT by katiekins1 (I Bow to No One)
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To: LucyT

‘Davis wrote, “The genuine Communists I knew as well as others so labeled had one principle in common: to use any and every means to abolish racism.” Davis said he wrote to give “the widest possible publicity to the many instances of racism and the dissatisfaction of Afro-American with the status quo.””

This sums up the black communism wave. In their mind, communism wipes out racism. To them, they aren’t losing any freedom, they didn’t have any to begin with.


7,608 posted on 05/03/2009 2:18:27 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: autumnraine

Placemarker


7,609 posted on 05/03/2009 2:24:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: autumnraine

Since Johnson’s ‘great society’ too many black people have become wards of the state, so communism is nothing discernable as chneg for these folks. Which begs the point, what ‘change’ did they think they would achieve by installing the affirmative action Marxist?


7,610 posted on 05/03/2009 2:26:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...

FYI ~~~

Liberi v. Taitz: Slander Suit Filed in Federal Court

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Via SentinalRadio and other concerned citizens, Lisa Liberi and a number of other Plaintiffs, including attorney Philip Berg, have filed suit against attorney Dr. Orly Taitz and a number of other Defendants in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=5924


7,611 posted on 05/05/2009 12:03:43 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE
Gist of the suit from the pleading:

[[ Defendants James Sundquist and Rock Salt Publishing have sent mass e-mailing with Lisa Ostella’s home address, phone number and maiden name through the internet to an unknown number of undisclosed recipients slandering and harassing Lisa Ostella and her family and have filed falsified police and law enforcement reports against Lisa Ostella regarding supposed “hacking” of Defendant Orly Taitz, et al websites and PayPal accounts. Lisa Liberi and her husband were also accused of “hacking” and tampering with Defendant Orly Taitz’s website and PayPal accounts. ]]

7,612 posted on 05/05/2009 12:16:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

thnx for the info


7,613 posted on 05/05/2009 12:44:22 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: MHGinTN

What fun and games.


7,614 posted on 05/05/2009 12:46:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: MHGinTN

Orly could never be accused of having discretion. Sad .. there was worthy ammunition, but she’s the loose cannon.


7,615 posted on 05/05/2009 12:49:36 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

I’m sorry to hear things have come to this point. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the dispute, we should be concentrating on America’s real enemy, Obama.


7,616 posted on 05/05/2009 1:01:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MHGinTN

Thank You


7,617 posted on 05/05/2009 1:09:12 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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To: STARWISE

WTF? Phillip Berg is suing Dr. Taitz? I’m confused?


7,618 posted on 05/05/2009 1:35:37 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: autumnraine

The complaint

http://therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/Zlibericomplaint05.pdf


7,619 posted on 05/05/2009 2:34:22 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: All

Sensibly stated piece

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The Obama Birth Certificate (5-5-09)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2244408/posts


7,620 posted on 05/05/2009 2:36:51 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: self

bookmark


7,621 posted on 05/05/2009 5:03:20 PM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: SE Mom; Beckwith; FrdmLvr; Prole; backhoe; Jet Jaguar; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ETL; Brown Deer; ...
On May 4, someone by the name of James Buchanan (who is a repulsive, virulent anti-Semite) posted a story on LibertyPost.org called, "Two Major Developments in Obama Citizenship Case," that is nothing more than the year-old article about Jay McKinnon who alleged he was the COLB forger (remember, "Uh-oh?). If dusting off an ancient article and passing it of as "new," is not bizarre enough, then check out the source that Buchanan references: his own November 12 article on us.altermedia.info.

Please be aware of the sources that ping you before you forward them to others.

7,622 posted on 05/06/2009 3:31:14 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: Polarik; LucyT; seekthetruth

Thanks for the warning. Pat is vile and two faced!


7,623 posted on 05/06/2009 3:37:52 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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To: MHGinTN

You’re leaving out the most despicable part, where Orly and Linda Starr, aka Linda Sue Belcher, called Lisa Liberi a convicted felon, a forger, an identity thief, and other character assassinations, and emailing their slanderous accusations to hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Phil Berg was also implicated by association.

When someone impunes your character and labels you a criminal, it is an assault on a person’s reputation and credibility, with the consequences affecting every aspect of your entire life from that point onwards.

The only recourse is to take the offender to court to clear your name.

I’ve known about this for a long time, and let me add that I trust Lisa and Phil with my life, and they do not deserve this sh*t. They have been exploited, ripped off, from the very beginning, but what was done to them in the past two months is the last straw.


7,624 posted on 05/06/2009 3:47:08 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: STARWISE

There’s a date typo I found a few pages in...

“On December 12, 2009 Taitz and Bob Stevens, Taitz
Head Webmaster, began telling people that “Obama thugs” had her business/dental
site, drtaitz.com, shut down.”


7,625 posted on 05/10/2009 12:11:37 PM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: Beckwith; Fred Nerks; David; Polarik; Iowan; ETL; Ernest_at_the_Beach; null and void; ...

0bama has lived for half a century without leaving any footprints — none. Why would (and how could) that be?

Here is the tip of the iceberg:

The Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Confirmed by Beckwith — Reliable source*.

“I acquired the picture below from Winifred (Wakai) Otaguro, who was in Ms. Sakai’s kindergarten class at Noelani Elementary School in 1967. Otaguro’s mother, Betty Wakai, had written the names of most of the kids in the class on the back of the picture. Her writing identifies the first little boy in the third row as “Barry Obama.” Obama’s sister Maya Soetoro-Ng confirms that the boy is Obama, however, the Department of Education has been unable to find his records.”

*Kelli Abe Trifonovitch, writing in Hawaii Business:

Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan

http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2008/Being-Local-Barry-and-Bryan/

This is an important feature because K-records for original school entry would have contained the following:

1. His REAL Birth Certificate.

2. An application with the following:

—1.. His Legal name.
—2.. Parents or Legal Guardians’ names.
—3. Date of Birth
—4. Place of Birth
—5. Vaccination Records (revealing a timeline to the place and DOB.)

It also is important for two reasons:

A. The Dept.of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (So, ... Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

B. There would have been NO shameful low-test scores, NO embarassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and NO trails of fraudulent funding to hide which could possibly ‘excuse’ the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records. For the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public, his true life story.

This is different. Hawaii should be able to verify he attended their school since he is featured in class photographs. State and federal tax dollars paid for his initial year of education. Why is there no documentation?

This is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ of an intentionally erased life of a fraudulent conman and it reeks of complicity by officials within the State of Hawaii’s Dept. of Health & Dept. of Education

Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records - Missing

Certificate of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
0bama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
0bama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators):

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released

Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators):

Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released — Counterfeit
0ccidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

From ‘The Obama File’ by Beckwith (our own FReeper)

http://www.theobamafile.com/

The United States Library of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collections of Internet materials.

http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html


7,626 posted on 05/12/2009 3:34:09 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: stockpirate; pissant; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; ...

Missing documents update:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts?page=7626#7626


7,627 posted on 05/12/2009 3:40:34 PM PDT by LucyT
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Archived:

Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky - Quotes and Excerpts
Crossroad ^ | 1971 | Saul Alinsky

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2249577/posts


7,628 posted on 05/12/2009 3:49:04 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

A. The Dept. of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (So, ... Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

... now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the state OBLIGATED to have full and complete educational records?

If it doesn't, can't it be compelled to do so under FERPA or similar state/federal laws?

7,629 posted on 05/12/2009 3:56:56 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
Lucy has a good point.

Last year I near election time ozero took a trip to Hawaii to visit his sick grandma. Along with him were a bevy of lawyers that was not widely reported. I have always wondered why he needed so many Lewes to accompany him to Hawaii.

Logical minds want to know.

7,630 posted on 05/12/2009 4:03:01 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: LucyT

Wasn’t he in Indonesia in 1967? I thought I read 1966 to 1970 or so.


7,631 posted on 05/12/2009 4:21:52 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: LucyT

So was all his records transferred to Indonesia (which would be pretty much useless since they taught in a completely different language and at a religious school no less. By adopting him, the records would be useless...

I don’t know, as eveyrthing with Obama, fishy.


7,632 posted on 05/12/2009 4:30:41 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: autumnraine

FWIW:

Widely distributed reports have noted in January 1968, Obama was registered as a Muslim at Jakarta’s Roman Catholic Franciscus Assisi Primary School under the name Barry Soetoro. He was listed as an Indonesian citizen whose stepfather, listed on school documents as “L Soetoro Ma,” worked for the topography department of the Indonesian Army.

Catholic schools in Indonesia routinely accept non-Catholic students, but exempt them from studying religion. Obama’s school documents, though, wrongly list him as being Indonesian.

After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama was enrolled – also as a Muslim, according to documents – in the Besuki Primary School, a public school in Jakarta.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/so-what.html


7,633 posted on 05/12/2009 4:53:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: autumnraine

..and then there’s CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama’s school )


7,634 posted on 05/12/2009 4:59:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT

Wake up America Ping.


7,635 posted on 05/12/2009 5:35:31 PM PDT by Iowan
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To: autumnraine

Wasn’t he in Indonesia in 1967? I thought I read 1966 to 1970 or so.

Yes, depending on who reports it, he and his mom (Ann Dunham) relocated to Indonesia in '66 or '67 after she married Lolo Soetoro. Here's Obama Jr in this image here:

He was registered in an Indonesian elementary school as Barry Soetoro:

Here is Obama Jr and his dad in Dec 1971. Obama Sr flew 10,000 miles from Kenya, reportedly for a college reunion in Hawaii (my theory has long been that Obama Sr flew back to sign sealed adoption papers to place Obama Jr into Lolo's custody [thereby officially changing Obama Jr's name to Barry Soetoro]):

Obama's mama and Lolo were having marital problems, informally separating in 1974, as seen in their 1980 Divorce papers (bottom half):

Obama Jr continued to go by "Barry Obama" throughout school in Hawaii, supposedly as a nickname.




Most likely, once his records from his years in Hawaii or his first two years of college at Occidental in California are revealed, we'll see that Barry Soetoro was (and IS) his legal name.


7,636 posted on 05/12/2009 8:23:14 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: LucyT

Didn’t he also write in his book (Dreams From My Father?) that he found his birth certificate and used it as a bookmark?

Wonder why he hasn’t proudly shown us that one? Hmmmmm...


7,637 posted on 05/12/2009 8:30:20 PM PDT by azishot (I just joined the NRA.)
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To: BP2
I would love to see the original of that image, before someone blotted out the faces and the legend under Barry Obama's name, it looks is if the writing said 'From Kenya'
7,638 posted on 05/12/2009 8:32:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: BP2

I think it was the other way around that Obama Sr adopted Jr in 1971 changing his name BACK to Obama from Soetoro reversing what Ann had done when she married Soetoro. Remember Ann was in HI when Obama Sr visited and could have placed an ad in the local paper advertising the event as is required by law, but Lolo was in Indonesia and would not appear to protest. Before Ann married Lolo she could have placed an ad in the local paper advertising the adoption of Jr by Lolo and Obama Sr being in Kenya could not appear to protest. Do it once, and it is easier to do a second time.


7,639 posted on 05/12/2009 10:06:23 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: BP2; usmcobra; Fred Nerks; Iowan; David; Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK; Jet Jaguar; PhilDragoo; Polarik; ...

“One thing about her death has always bother me, As the wife of a Veteran who is interred in the Punch Bowl, a military cemetery equal in stature to Arlington she (Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham, 1922-2008) was entitled to have her remains buried along with her husband (Stanley Armour Dunham 1918-1992).

“Instead Obama had her cremated and dumped her ashes in the ocean, now I ask you, given that she did the necessary paperwork to insure her husband was buried in the Punch Bowl, undoubtedly she knew that she could be buried there with him as well.

“Obama choose to have her cremated and disposed of the ashes.”

71 posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:51:20 PM by usmcobra
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2249101/posts?page=71#71

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“I Checked into it, even though space in the Punch Bowl is at a premium, as the wife of someone already interred there, she was guaranteed a spot with her husband.

“Just another example of how either Obama doesn’t understand American customs, didn’t care about his grandmother’s wishes or had something to hide.”

132 posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:10:45 PM by usmcobra
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2249101/posts?page=132#132


7,640 posted on 05/12/2009 10:41:31 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: BP2
The divorce paper claims mother and son are U.S. citizens, father is Indonesian citizen.
7,641 posted on 05/12/2009 11:01:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LucyT

7,642 posted on 05/12/2009 11:09:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: BP2

Man, in that top picture, Obama looks like Michelle with the scowl on the face.


7,643 posted on 05/13/2009 3:53:08 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: Myrddin; LucyT
The divorce paper claims mother and son are U.S. citizens, father is Indonesian citizen.

Actually, the child referenced is Maya Soetoro, Barack's half-sister born in Indonesia. You have to look very carefully at the 1980 divorce papers to notice that Barack is referenced, but not by name: "1 child above 18 still dependent on the parties for education.".

He had just started college at Occidental. That is why those records are so important -- and why Obama's (I'm sorry, Barry Soetoro's) legal team is blocking the Occidental College records from being released to Gary Kreep at the U.S. Justice Foundation and the Public:


7,644 posted on 05/13/2009 6:13:21 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
Good catch. "Oldest child in university". That's Barry.
7,645 posted on 05/13/2009 9:09:08 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LucyT

There is actually one spot I found online which claimed Madelyn’s ashes were interred with Stanley’s at Punchbowl and that was even after the public spectacle of the “ocean dump” and the horrible display of Michelle jumping up into his arms with her legs wrapped around his waist like all their problems were now over. I couldn’t believe it when I saw that picture and it has probably been removed from the internet by now but the mention of Madelyn’s ashes being placed with her husband are still around, IIRC they were part of some tourism website.


7,646 posted on 05/13/2009 11:56:26 AM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: LucyT

And so it continues. I wonder how many have thought to add the cost for this document sanitization to the amount this affirmative action figure and his nadlers have paid to keep his life a secret? WEvery time another example of this lying POIE defrauding America surfaces, I am instantly reminded of the large number of fellow ‘americans’ who are too stupid or too dumbed down or too ‘socialismized’ to be ‘fellow americans’ on sovereignty issues. O bow ma is accomplishing somethign the Commies could not do, he has dividied America into the idiot serfs of the federal oligarchy and those angry at having their sovereignty cancelled by the fedewral bastards and illegitimate courts.


7,647 posted on 05/13/2009 12:05:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Gemsbok; Fred Nerks; null and void

For Barry’s left shoulder to be that much longer than his right, he would have had to stand at a 35 degree angle to the camera lens, which of course he doesn’t do. The “shirt” looks flat and is comprised of all-white pixels with no darkened pixels to reveal that Barry was standing anywhere but perpendicular to the camera, if he was really there at all.

for the article to call that microscopic thumbnail, “photographic evidence,” is laughable.


7,648 posted on 05/13/2009 9:53:21 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: Polarik; Chief Engineer

a little larger...could the two white girls be the Nordyke twins? They were not identical twins IIRC. I still want to know what happened to their birth announcement. More specifically, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SPACE THEIR BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT WAS IN.

Or am I expected to believe that Vital Statistics included obama's name on their announcement list, and forgot the Nordyke Twins?

Born within hours of obama according to Eleanor Nordyke, their names should be here:

BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT

Expand to regular size to read.

7,649 posted on 05/13/2009 10:37:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Gemsbok

The Nordyke twin girls were born the next day(early evening 6 pmish) and the only reason I can see for their names not appearing in the Vital Stats birth announcements was that an entire story was devoted to them considering their father’s position as a doctor. I never did find out how many beds were available at the Kapiolani Maternity Home at the time nor did I find out exactly what Doctor Nordyke’s position(he was an internist wasn’t he?) was at the time or what residents worked at the hospital at the time. Which two girls are you referring to as possibly being the Nordyke twins in the picture? They were not identical twins but they did have the same smile. It’s late, and yet another day of unexpected news I definitely had NOT been anticipating. Thanks for posting this larger photo I had just mentioned it to Gemsbok so don’t be surprised to get a freepmail from her about it.


7,650 posted on 05/13/2009 11:10:44 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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