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Is Obama a member of the bar?
9/5/08 | Vanity

Posted on 09/05/2008 6:13:56 PM PDT by pabianice

I cannot find any certification that Obama ever passed the bar. Can someone point me to such a verifiable reference? Thanks.


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1 posted on 09/05/2008 6:13:57 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The ‘bar’ he is a member of is the Brehon Pub where the Chicago machine hangs out.


2 posted on 09/05/2008 6:17:07 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("I will stand with the Muslims" - Barack Hussein Obama p. 261 "Audacity of Hope")
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To: pabianice

i don’t think you have to be a member of the illinois bar to be on the oprah show.


3 posted on 09/05/2008 6:18:39 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: pabianice

If he couldn’t pass the bar exam, and was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review, then we know it was an Affirmative Action deal.

Here’s the thing about Barack. He is international, he is just black enough to be “black”, he is reasonably intellegent, and he knows how to give good BS. He makes stupid white liberals feel good about not being racist, even though he isn’t real on substance. The term “Empty Suit” so fits him, it’s amazing to me.


4 posted on 09/05/2008 6:19:46 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: pabianice

Where did you look?
Illinois has the records on line.
What name did you use? I mean really it could be under Barry Smith for all we know.
The reality is that he does not to be a member of the bar to teach.
I think I heard though today that he never published a paper while teaching. What ever happen to publish or perish?


5 posted on 09/05/2008 6:19:49 PM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: autumnraine

Is anyone, anywhere, compiling all of the missing and/or conflicting information about this clown?


6 posted on 09/05/2008 6:22:52 PM PDT by Stayfree (***********************************************If it is left, it can't be right!!)
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To: pabianice

Try this link.

http://www.iardc.org/ardcroll.asp


7 posted on 09/05/2008 6:25:16 PM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: pabianice
Generally, you can go to the state bar site where the attorney is supposed to be licensed in and enter a name through their member directory, but Illinois doesn't seem to have that option (I checked before posting). He's listed on martindale.com, but it doesn't say much. His ranking on Martindale is:

#4,366 out of 25,109 lawyers in Chicago, Illinois

#127,687 out of 893,079 total lawyers Overall

8 posted on 09/05/2008 6:26:23 PM PDT by Kellykoop (All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people.)
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To: svcw
I think I heard though today that he never published a paper while teaching. What ever happen to publish or perish?

His position was "Lecturer," not "Professor" (of one type or another). Lecturers are not expected to publish. What is more remarkable is that he never authored a Law Review article while at Harvard.

ML/NJ

9 posted on 09/05/2008 6:27:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: pabianice
Licensed in Illinois in 1991. License is currently inactive.

At least, according to AVVO.com.

10 posted on 09/05/2008 6:27:33 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (DNC = Do Nothing Congress)
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To: svcw
ARDC Lawyer Search Results from the ARDC database last updated as of September 4, 2008 at 12:07:48 PM: for the following terms:

Last Name: obama, status: All, Country: usa

Name Date Admitted City State Authorized to Practice?

Barack Hussein Obama December 17, 1991 N/A N/A No

Michelle Obama Former name(s): Michelle Robinson May 12, 1989 N/A N/A No

11 posted on 09/05/2008 6:27:59 PM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: pabianice

“Is Obama a member of the bar?”

Don’t you know that Muslims don’t drink alcohol? (At least not publicly)


12 posted on 09/05/2008 6:28:17 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: svcw

What does “Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law” mean? Both were admitted to practice before the Illinois Supreme Court.


13 posted on 09/05/2008 6:29:46 PM PDT by opocno
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To: svcw

It could be in New York, as that’s where Kellman went to get him to be a community organizer for Chicago. Obama claimed this week at a meeting that he taught Constitutional Law. And at one point he worked for the same law firm in Chicago as Michelle Obama. So Illinois should be the place he has lilcense to practice law, even if he had passed the bar in NY.


14 posted on 09/05/2008 6:30:12 PM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: pabianice

They say he practiced law with a “civil rights law firm.” He had to be a member of the bar to do that. If he passed the bar and is licensed, it has to be a matter of public record. Try the Illinois Supreme Court and the Attorney Disciplinary Board or whatever agency is responsible for policing attorneys in the state.


15 posted on 09/05/2008 6:31:10 PM PDT by Rsgood Dsbad
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To: pabianice
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-incredible-background-and-policies

Scroll down to comment by "Another Kansan" for some links

16 posted on 09/05/2008 6:31:14 PM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient.... then repent.)
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To: pabianice

Sorry,

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-incredible-background-and-policies


17 posted on 09/05/2008 6:33:33 PM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient.... then repent.)
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To: pabianice

Can one be a member after one has admitted to illegal drug use?


18 posted on 09/05/2008 6:34:13 PM PDT by kalee
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To: autumnraine
If he couldn’t pass the bar exam, and was the Editor of the Harvard Law Review, then we know it was an Affirmative Action deal.

It is an open secret that graduates of Suffolk ("close cover before striking") Law pass the Massachusetts Bar Examine on the first attempt at a higher rate than graduates of Haavaad Lah. Many of the Harvard Law students need to take cram courses at night over a deli to pass the bar exam. Not clear what they're teaching on the northern banks of the Charles, but it's not Blackstone.

19 posted on 09/05/2008 6:34:29 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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To: opocno
I do not know but they cannot practice now.
It could be that they just did not renew their licenses or that they got tossed out on their behinds.
20 posted on 09/05/2008 6:34:31 PM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Kackikat
And at one point he worked for the same law firm in Chicago as Michelle Obama.

As did Bernadine Dohrn.

21 posted on 09/05/2008 6:35:35 PM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient.... then repent.)
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To: pabianice
There is no listing of him as a member of the bar in Illinois:


22 posted on 09/05/2008 6:37:57 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: 353FMG

they do while pretending not to be planning anything.


23 posted on 09/05/2008 6:38:56 PM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Ellendra

Pinging self.


24 posted on 09/05/2008 6:59:55 PM PDT by Ellendra (Most eco-freaks wouldn't know nature if it bit them on the butt . . . and it often does!)
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To: pabianice

So he’s a liar about being a lawyer?


25 posted on 09/05/2008 6:59:56 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: opocno

Inactive status is for people who passed the bar and were admitted to the bar, but for whatever reason don’t practice law and don’t want to deal with continuing education requirements (which cost time and money).

I am admitted to the NY Bar, for example, but am voluntarily considered ‘retired’ so I don’t have to pay them my annual dues and don’t have to keep up with CLE requirements.

That’s all it means - they passed the bar and were admitted, but don’t practice law so don’t want the hassles of keeping current. If we want to become active again, we need to file some papers, pay some dues, and start taking CLE credits to stay current.


26 posted on 09/05/2008 7:01:49 PM PDT by Don Blake
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To: svcw
"I think I heard though today that he never published a paper while teaching. What ever happen to publish or perish?"

His position was not tenure track (he would have been a "temporary," an "adjunct," or some other similar designation) so there was no need for him to publish. Temporary instructors rarely publish unless they mean to go on for their PhD and want to start building a bit of a record in advance. If a temporary instructor publishes, it will typically be in a fringe journal and not one of the upper-end journals unless he/she gets co-author credit with an established professor.

It is a bit unusual that a minority law instructor with two Ivy League degrees was apparently never offered a tenure track appointment. Of course he may have been offered one and turned it down, but I would think we would have heard of it if he had been offered a regular position at a prestigious place like U. of Chicago.

27 posted on 09/05/2008 7:30:32 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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So how about that lawsuit filed by clintons team! was he born here? Is he even qualified to be on that leftest ballot ?
28 posted on 09/05/2008 7:31:43 PM PDT by reefdiver (He voted to Kill the infants - Because the intended Abortion was unsuccessful. You think your safe)
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To: svcw

“I think I heard though today that he never published a paper while teaching.”

That’s if it’s your career and seeking tenure. We know that BHO’s brief “teaching” was only a resume-adder and brief stepping-stone to his ultimate goal. And again, the MSM so badly twists and misstates the facts - they persist in calling him a “college professor” - there’s a big difference being a real professor vs. a part-time lecturer, which is what he actually was.

And yes, professors are the ones to whom the “publish or perish” rule applies.


29 posted on 09/05/2008 7:35:11 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: kalee

“Can one be a member after one has admitted to illegal drug use?”

yes, as long as they haven’t been convicted of a felony. besides, the “admitting to” can be construed as “hearsay”
:-))))))))))))))))


30 posted on 09/05/2008 7:41:32 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

LOL! Very witty post.


31 posted on 09/05/2008 7:52:14 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: pabianice

“So he’s a liar about being a lawyer?”

Redundant :-)))))))))))


32 posted on 09/05/2008 7:54:54 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Roccus

Maybe the whole firm should be researched?


33 posted on 09/05/2008 7:57:10 PM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Stayfree

Hey, why worry about whether Obama passed his bar exam? We’ve got more important stories to cover. Did you hear that Sarah Palin’s daughter is prego??? OMG......

Did you hear that DNA testing of her baby is being looked at......OMG.......

And did you hear that Sarah went to six different colleges before she graduated from college???????

we gotta have our priorities straight.

I heard rumors that there were problems at a city council meeting in the town Obama calls “Wasilly”, Alaska. When Sarah was mayor, there was a meeting where there was a breach of parliamentary procedure!!!!!! She’s in trouble now. That’s the deal breaker!!!!!!


34 posted on 09/05/2008 10:09:57 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: llandres
LOL! Very witty post.

Literally true.

"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
-- Will Rogers

35 posted on 09/06/2008 4:47:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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