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Why Is Obama Paying Lawyers Instead of Producing Birth Certificate?
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Posted on 10/07/2008 2:02:58 PM PDT by moopie1

Why Is Obama Paying Lawyers Instead of Producing Birth Certificate?

Last week a Judge Ordered Senator to produce his birth certificate, Yesterday the Senator's lawyers have filed for a delay of the order. Now I know most people think that the "birth certificate" issue is as legitimate as the tooth fairy. But My question to them is, if it is so illegitimate, why is the Senator paying lawyers instead of just giving the birth certificate document to the Judge?

Berg is “Outraged” that Obama & DNC Hide Again Behind Legal Issues as their attorney files a Motion for Protective Order to “not” Answer Admissions & Production of Documents while Betraying Public in not Producing Documents proving Obama is “qualified” to be a candidate for President.

For Immediate Release: - 10/06/08

(Contact info and pdf of press release below)

Country is Headed to a Constitutional Crisis

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/06/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08.

While legal, Berg stated he is “outraged as this is another attempt to hide the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is qualified to be President.” The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President.

It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.

Furthermore, and actually more important is Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship that he received when he returned from Indonesia, as if it exists it would indicate that Obama was “naturalized” and also not able to be President.

The DNC has promised “we the people” an Open and Honest Government and has promised to uphold our United States Constitution. The DNC has failed their promise. DNC Chairperson Howard Dean should resign as he has not and is not fulfilling his responsibility of seeing that a “qualified” candidate is on the ballot as the Democratic candidate for President of the United States.

Berg stated that a response in opposition will be filed in the next day or so to the Defendants Motion for a Protective Order.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 21.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations. Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; obamavotefraud
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To: moopie1; VigilantAmerican

pinging you to the latest on the endless BirthCertificate saga.

When will it ever end?


21 posted on 10/07/2008 2:34:44 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: moopie1

Why would Obama do this? How does he benifit from NOT doing the right thing?
More importantly whyn would the Democrat National Poltical Machine allow him to go on like this without putting this question to an end with THE ONLY MEANS that would do so - a legit/ legal documented birth certificate.
Even more importantly what happens if this man is NOT a US citizen and does somehow manage to get elected? What happens 6 months later when proof that he is not a citizen is uncovered?
We the people get Biden because Obama gets impeached or charged or whatever? WHY? Biden would not have been the VP if not chosen by the perosn that would be getting impeached.
Another election?
What a freakin nightmare. One really has to wonder what the Democrats are thinking. if this goes belly up down the road the Democrat Party would be finished..
Not that this would be a bad thing but meanwhile America and its citizens get the shaft as usual.....


22 posted on 10/07/2008 2:34:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: moopie1
While we're all wringing our hands about what McCain will say at the dabate tonight, there's this serious fire starting to get out of control. Read the comments (click on the heading to the article on Berg's web site):

"Protective orders barring discovery until standing is established are normally used only when the discovery would result in disclosure of damaging or embarassing information not related to the case at hand. The only thing in contention here is Obama's citizenship. The production of documents proving his citizenship would stop the suit dead in its tracks and there would be no further discovery or action. So, Senator Obama, enough already. Produce an official copy of your birth certificate

"He does not have a birth certificate except from Mombasa. If he can just get this delayed until after the election, which at this point it looks as though he will win, then he will carry sway to create conditions which will prevent investigations, which could most assuredly lead to violence at the intimation of his losing his "win".

I don't think Obama is at that much risk, just look what his cousin Odinga did, after loosing elections, he got his supporters on the streets to fight. As terrorist disrespecting American flag, anthem, Constitution etc. he may be waiting for the right moment. Democrats created doo doo without clean way out. Maybe Obama is already threatening with calling brothers for violence if anything will go against "his greatness"... don't underestimate his ego.

"This is twilight zone! Democrats are pushing America in to biggest crises ever, this may just end up with civil war."

23 posted on 10/07/2008 2:36:04 PM PDT by uncommonsense
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To: r9etb
How long will it take for this to take effect if he is found to be Kenyan-born and not constitutionally able to be POTUS?

A day. A week. What happens if this takes years to find out? Is he required to show this before he gets put on the ballot? I am trying to ask the question without asking it if you know what I mean.

24 posted on 10/07/2008 2:36:34 PM PDT by Ultimatum (Resposibility is more than a virtue, IMHO.)
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To: moopie1

Anyone think to see if he has a Kenyan birth certificate?


25 posted on 10/07/2008 2:40:07 PM PDT by PeterFinn (NObama in NOvember.)
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To: r9etb
Inasmuch as I like a good conspiracy theory, I think that Occam's Razor is more applicable here. One of the prior posters thought that his race was listed as "Caucasian"....strikes me as a possibility. Something money-related (although how, I don't know) is a good possibility too.

I remember all of the brouhaha over Kerry not releasing his military records, and the upshot of it was that they revealed he got lower grades than Bush while in college. BFD.

26 posted on 10/07/2008 2:41:05 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Ultimatum
How long will it take for this to take effect if he is found to be Kenyan-born and not constitutionally able to be POTUS?

If it occurs before the election, he would be immediately disqualified (following the necessarily expedited trip all the way to the SCOTUS). The Democratic National Committee is empowered to name a replacement candidate, which would undoubtedly be Hillary! Clinton.

If he wins the election and this occurs before the inauguration, we'd again have the legal whirl, followed by the election being thrown into the House (which would most likely select Hillary!).

If he wins and is inaugurated, then Obama will be forced out of office (again after the legal stuff) and Joe Biden becomes president in accordance with established rules of succession.

My guess ... if this bears any kind of fruit at all ... is that it would become an issue post-election. Hard to imagine that it would be resolved within the next month.

27 posted on 10/07/2008 2:42:57 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: moopie1

Two possibilities

He was born in Hawaii a couple of years earlier before Hawaii became a state

He was born outside the country and is not eligible to run


28 posted on 10/07/2008 2:43:24 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: mo
Look NSA is not a law enforcement organization!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who thinks that NSA CIA, DIA, ONI INR has anything to do with law enforcement watches to much TV !!!!!1
The only reason to pass a NSA background check is to work at or work with NSA.
The Constitution does NOT require any background checks for presidential eligibility. It sets the eligibility standard as natural born. Its the states (Remember those sovereign but now cowardly entities!) responsibility to determine ballot eligibility to be listed on the ballot.
29 posted on 10/07/2008 2:44:13 PM PDT by Reily
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To: wbill
Inasmuch as I like a good conspiracy theory, I think that Occam's Razor is more applicable here. One of the prior posters thought that his race was listed as "Caucasian"....strikes me as a possibility. Something money-related (although how, I don't know) is a good possibility too.

Probably so -- I seriously doubt there's anything to the 'citizenship' angle, but his reticence in producing the thing is becoming rather interesting.

If you'll hand me Mr. Occam's razor, I would suggest that the easist explanation is that there's nothing at all wrong with the BC; that they're waiting to see if it causes a serious controversy; and if so they'll wait until the Wednesday before the election to release it with, "see? Nothing to see here."

The idea would be to use that non-controversy, with its simple resolution, to provide a smoke-screen for the more serious questions about Obama's associates, past, and lack of qualifications.

30 posted on 10/07/2008 2:47:37 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Hard to imagine that it would be resolved within the next month.

The one "expedited" way for this to be quickly resolved is for a whistleblower in the Hawaii government to leak the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate, or to leak that there isn't one.

-PJ

31 posted on 10/07/2008 2:51:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Political Junkie Too; r9etb
Of course, this begs the question of why there are never any whistleblowers against Democrats.

-PJ

32 posted on 10/07/2008 2:53:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
The one "expedited" way for this to be quickly resolved is for a whistleblower in the Hawaii government to leak the vault copy of Obama's birth certificate, or to leak that there isn't one.

That would be explicitly illegal, and anybody who tried it would properly be arrested and imprisoned.

I doubt that there are any "whistleblowers" outside of the Islamic world who would be willing to go to those lengths for anybody.

33 posted on 10/07/2008 2:54:52 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: moopie1

Every one of us can go to our lock box and produce a valid birth certificate. Our children have to have one to play sports and enter school.
Why in the world is this not a requirement before someone runs for President of the United States?


34 posted on 10/07/2008 2:55:43 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: r9etb
That would be a good ploy on their part.
It will only work if McCain goes public about the BC controversy. He won't unless he actually has the goods.. and I still think he won't!
As long is remains on the fringe in blog-sphere it will cast a a ominous shadow, and that might be good enough.
35 posted on 10/07/2008 2:56:49 PM PDT by Reily
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To: r9etb
I thought that whistleblower protection was for protecting actions, that while illegal, still shed light on illegal corruption in government.

I'd think that the courts would protect a whistleblower who violates personal data privacy laws in order to expose someone who is perpetuating a fraud under protection from those laws.

Data privacy laws cannot shield a person who is running for president under false pretenses, while jailing the person who exposed the fraud.

-PJ

36 posted on 10/07/2008 2:57:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: moopie1

Dozens of msm muck-rakers were dispatched to gin up the phony “Troopergate” story about Gov. Palin, but they can’t seem to get interested in this potentially explosive story about Barry Hussein. What a bunch of Democrat toadies!


37 posted on 10/07/2008 2:58:32 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: r9etb

Occam’s razor also behooves us to think of the teenaged pregnant girl whose parents were way out lefties who probably barely pooh-poohed daughter showing up with a half-African baby on board. There would be no reason for her to fly to Kenya to have the baby. One would think Obama senior would also not be so thrilled to bring home to his first wife his new white one, though he did that later on with his other new white wife...


38 posted on 10/07/2008 3:03:33 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: JamesP81
"Anyone who wishes to seek the office of president should be required by law to produce documents proving his or her eligibility before even being allowed on a ballot."

You're right. And the law should fix responsbility for confirming the authenticity of the document with the original source.

We need Congress to introduce and pass this legislation.

39 posted on 10/07/2008 3:03:34 PM PDT by DannyTN (`)
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To: uncommonsense; moopie1; pissant; kittymyrib

40 posted on 10/07/2008 3:05:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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