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what started this birth certificate debacle?
sarah p

Posted on 01/30/2009 12:56:39 PM PST by sarah p

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To: sarah p

Oh goody, another new sign-up with a Birther vanity trying to stir the pot.


141 posted on 02/01/2009 11:26:02 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: nufsed
BS this. I CAN'T PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE HE IS HIDING IT.

Yeah right.

Let's don't ever do anything we haven't done before, so that when new situations arise, we can paralize ourselves and let things go on unchallenged.

How about when new situations arise, we pass the necessary laws to deal with it?

142 posted on 02/01/2009 11:30:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
No other presidential candidate has been forced to provide proof that he or she was born in the U.S.

If we look at the history of all the other presidents, would we find their past an open book, their family lineage a common knowledge of the people? We can except Chester Arthur, as he ascended via assassination, or we can look at what we did know about his family lineage, and the travels of his parents and the timing of his birth, just as we are with Obama.

Obama has done nothing different.

Obama has done everything different. He has not only blocked access to his birth certificate, he has blocked access to his family for testimonials, he has not offered any family friends for testimonials, he has blocked access to his school records, he has blocked access to his school papers, he has blocked access to his foundation-work papers, he has blocked access to his legislative papers.

Looking back at all the other presidents, what records (other than birth) have they made available? What associations did they offer as testimonials to their qualifications?

-PJ

143 posted on 02/01/2009 11:42:35 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: nominal; nufsed
LOL! Ol' Non-Sinkspur-quitter is a One-Note Barry, ain't he?

He keeps wanting everyone to prove that Barry "The Big Wagyu" Obama isn't a natural-born citizen, when Barry won't give us the tools to do the job, like, his actual birth certificate.

Therefore, we'll just make a valid deductive argument (a modus tollens) to counter the "prove a negative" argument of Non-Sinkquittur:

  1. If Obama's original birth certificate showed he was born in Hawaii, then the evidence would be in the public record.
  2. There is no evidence of an original birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii in the public record.
  3. Therefore, he wasn't born in Hawaii.

144 posted on 02/01/2009 12:12:18 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: nufsed
Non-Sinkquittur wants to give The Fraudulent One a pass, and for everyone to move on.

Nothing to see here. Can't prove that Barry isn't, etc., etc.

Now, where have I ever heard of a group just wanting to Move On, when it came to Presidential feloniousness*?

;-) * Well, DEMOCRAT Presidential feloniousness, to be strictly accurate. George W. Bush was committing all sorts of felonies, just by being alive, according to this unnamed group...

145 posted on 02/01/2009 12:17:28 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I see your alarm is working. You got here really fast. You love the bc threads, it just makes your day complete doesn’t it?


146 posted on 02/01/2009 12:37:11 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: Non-Sequitur
Uh, yeah that's right. Do you deny that the applicant is refusing to produce his original BC and his school and passport records? Stevie Wonder can see that.

We have a law in the constitution. Every other candidate except a seceding VP was known to the general public. Everyone knew where there birth place was. In fact people at that local celebrated when the local buy ran. That didn't happen this time. No one took responsibility. Not the party, the secretaries of state, the electoral college, the congress or the courts. So some members of the citizenry are doing it.

Don't need a law. Just need someone to uphold the constitution.

But that's okay, you stay on the sideline. Those of us who care about the law will do the heavy lifting.

147 posted on 02/01/2009 12:41:16 PM PST by nufsed
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To: an amused spectator

s usual, Non-Sequitur trots in with the Anti-Birther Fog Machine and lays down a thick cloud over the issue.

LMAO trots in, He flies in, breaking the sound barrier on the way


148 posted on 02/01/2009 12:49:03 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: sarah p

My guess: This was posted to detract from the attention we are giving to the fraudulent stimulus package. To direct more attention to the bc issue and not what is important RIGHT NOW. The bc issue will expose him, but the most important thing now is to keep calling DC and keep fighting this insane package.


149 posted on 02/01/2009 12:52:42 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: Non-Sequitur

A little ‘if’, absent any evidence that he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

and absent any REAL evidence that he was.


150 posted on 02/01/2009 12:55:09 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: ViLaLuz
Troll.

yea and brought about 5 others with her. You know the ones. Same ones every time.

151 posted on 02/01/2009 12:57:34 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Perhaps we are being visited by the spirit of e.e. cummings.


152 posted on 02/01/2009 12:58:28 PM PST by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: nufsed
Do you deny that the applicant is refusing to produce his original BC and his school and passport records? Stevie Wonder can see that.

I know of no law requiring he produce them.

Don't need a law. Just need someone to uphold the constitution.

No, you need a law. The Constitution lays out the requirement but is silent on who is responsible for checking those requirements and how. Until that loophole is closed then Obama is violating no law by refusing to show you his birth certificate.

But that's okay, you stay on the sideline. Those of us who care about the law will do the heavy lifting.

Let me know how you do.

153 posted on 02/01/2009 1:10:39 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Why did you reply to this post and ignore mine?

-PJ

154 posted on 02/01/2009 1:32:32 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The constitution says you have to be qualified. How do you you suggest we verify a candidates qualifications, mind reading? Are you really this unable to answer your own questions or are you just playing around. My grandson figured this out in about 3 minutes.


155 posted on 02/01/2009 2:05:04 PM PST by nufsed
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To: mojitojoe

I did not post this to distract attention from the “stimulus package.” That bs payout bill is an outrage! It is even worse if Obama is not even qualified to pass it in the first place.

I think that many of the people here are intelligent enough to focus on more than one issue at a time.


156 posted on 02/01/2009 2:23:11 PM PST by sarah p
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To: mojitojoe
LMAO trots in, He flies in, breaking the sound barrier on the way

By Gums, you're right! He was on this thread like Stink on Barry - in under 15 minutes! I was in just before him, because I was heavily involved that day in mocking Big Barry over his taste for the good things in life, like $100 a pop chunks of steak hors d’oeuvres.

It seemed like a good thread to continue the mocking.

157 posted on 02/01/2009 2:34:16 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Why did you reply to this post and ignore mine?p> It's harder to post back to your post "prove that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii", because you drag up all these other nattering instances where the Obama Stone Wall is showing...

He'll figure something out - you usually have to produce when you're on the clock... ;-)

158 posted on 02/01/2009 2:39:32 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: Star Traveler

Very good observation.


159 posted on 02/01/2009 2:42:48 PM PST by barnrat
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To: mojitojoe
My guess: This was posted to detract from the attention we are giving to the fraudulent stimulus package. To direct more attention to the bc issue and not what is important RIGHT NOW. The bc issue will expose him, but the most important thing now is to keep calling DC and keep fighting this insane package.

Yes, it's not like anyone official is going to drop everything to take care of the birth certificate issue any time soon. That poisoned fruit will ripen in its own good time.

Porkulus fraud, to line the pockets of the legislating tax-cheats IS the major focus right now.

160 posted on 02/01/2009 2:45:40 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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