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EMP attack would wipe out hundreds of millions of Americans
Unto the Breach ^ | 12 Feb 2009

Posted on 02/13/2009 7:30:24 AM PST by FatMax

Bill Forstchen, Newt Gingrich's co-author of several books is interviewed on Unto the Breach, and discusses Abraham Lincoln's bicentennial. In the middle of the interview, Bill mentions his research on an EMP attack, which terrorists could employ apparently at any time. Such an attack he said could wipe out most of the US overnight.


TOPICS: Government; History; Humor; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: duh; emp; hysterical; iran; terrorism; tm; zot
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To: SolidWood
I'm well armed.

61 posted on 02/13/2009 7:59:04 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: FatMax

Good thing NONE of my firearms are affected by EMP.


62 posted on 02/13/2009 7:59:15 AM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: FatMax
What happens in an EMP blast is that some significant percentage of the bomb's energy gets converted to electro-magnetic energy. Unmentioned in alarmist articles is how much energy you would need to affect the whole US.

The wiki on EMP has some more information. The "Starfish Prime" test that affected Hawaii involved a 1.4 MEGATON bomb detonated at 400 km altitude. To knock out all electronics and electrical transmission in the continental US, you would need a HUGE H-bomb (or an array of smaller ones) detonated out in space. Building multi-megaton bombs, plus being able to get them to orbital altitude is a non-trvial undertaking.

63 posted on 02/13/2009 7:59:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: SolidWood
The effects described sound pretty much to what happened in New Orleans during the hurricane.

With no help coming. With no police, no radios, no transportation, no anything.

Food will be gone in a few days, clean water soon thereafter. Dysentery, cholera, malnutrition and survival of the fittest will follow on after that.

There is no sustainable way to go back to the 1800s without a massive depopulation of the US.

It's not going to happen the moment the bomb goes off, but the country won't look the same 3 weeks later.

64 posted on 02/13/2009 8:00:05 AM PST by Malsua
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To: SolidWood
How did we survive before electricity? How do millions of third world people live without nearly comparable infrastructure?

The answer to both questions is: When you live on a farm, you don't need much infrastructure.

Up until 150 years ago, pretty much everyone lived on a farm. Much of the world still survives on subsistence-level agriculture. They don't need electricity.

But the 7 million yuppies living in NYC? No power? No water? No restaurants? They'd be hurting.

65 posted on 02/13/2009 8:00:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Obama must be the Antichrist. No one else would work so hard to destroy the US.)
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To: FatMax

Imagine the fun things we could do to the perpetrator(s).


66 posted on 02/13/2009 8:01:20 AM PST by PGalt
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To: XeniaSt

‘But some folks with guns will come and kill you for your food and water.’

I view that as a delivery of new guns to my doorstep, sorry. And if they drive, I’ll get a new vehicle or two out of it.


67 posted on 02/13/2009 8:01:41 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye

LOL


68 posted on 02/13/2009 8:02:30 AM PST by SolidWood ("NO on the stimulus package" Governor Palin said.)
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To: CougarGA7

No joke. Back in the seventies, when I converted this building from a garage to a studio, I wrapped the entire thing in space blankets, to reduce heat loss, then put foam insulation and siding over that. Inside the block walls, I installed studs and foil-backed fiberglass. It worked great. The TV heats the entire building, most of the time.

Then they invented the cell phone... ooops.


69 posted on 02/13/2009 8:03:08 AM PST by patton (SPQA - the last, the least and the lost)
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To: Badeye

Just make sure to aim with your Goodeye.


70 posted on 02/13/2009 8:03:50 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: patton

I thought about insulating with space blankets myself. In fact I do have some draped on the outside wall and floor joists to keep my water pipes from freezing.


71 posted on 02/13/2009 8:05:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: CougarGA7

If they get past my wife....she’ll burn a clip into ‘center mass’ in a heartbeat....(chuckle)


72 posted on 02/13/2009 8:05:34 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: patton

Lol. Yeah, a cellphone wont work well in that environment. I was doing some high power testing so the faraday cage was copper mesh and it was so my laptop and cellphone wouldn’t go poof.


73 posted on 02/13/2009 8:07:09 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: cripplecreek

Where you live, that is a good idea.


74 posted on 02/13/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by patton (SPQA - the last, the least and the lost)
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To: Badeye

That sounds more dangerous than the EMP. ;)


75 posted on 02/13/2009 8:08:08 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: SolidWood

Thanks for the warm reception, Free Republic.

Without infrastructure - no trucks delivering food, no drinking water, etc., how long before people start dying of disease? How effective will hospitals be? Sure, many of us would survive, but how would we get to eat when the grocery stores are empty? How will the police get to protect people when their cars won’t start, and the fire engines won’t start? Overstated? Who knows? And Iran just launched a satellite, so they now have ICBM capability. Plus, he mentioned that there were alternative means of delivery that would be much more difficult to stop. And Barack Hussein Obama won’t fund “unproven missile defense systems” so who’ll be protecting us?


76 posted on 02/13/2009 8:08:17 AM PST by FatMax
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To: green pastures

“On a serious note, as others have pointed out, an EMP won’t kill people— at least not outright. It’s the cascading effects that will.”

I think that may be the author’s point. But thank you kindly for all of the clever and original Nancy Pelosi-math compliments.


77 posted on 02/13/2009 8:08:18 AM PST by FatMax
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To: CougarGA7

You have no idea.....lol


78 posted on 02/13/2009 8:08:37 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: patton

It’s been bad this winter. I even had trouble with one of my toilet drains freezing.


79 posted on 02/13/2009 8:10:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Malsua
There is no sustainable way to go back to the 1800s without a massive depopulation of the US.

Illegal aliens + offspring = ~40 million

Obama voters = ~60 million

Federal Government employees = ~15 million

Government sub-contractors ~10 million

Problem solved.

80 posted on 02/13/2009 8:12:57 AM PST by Starfleet Command
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