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Worst Economic Collapse Ever [New American Revolution Predicted]
http://buchanan.org/blog/2009/02/video-worst-economic-collapse-ever/ ^ | February 14, 2009

Posted on 02/14/2009 6:50:03 PM PST by Steelfish

Worst Economic Collapse Ever From Russia Today

In 2009 were going to see the worst economic collapse ever, the Greatest Depression, says Gerald Celente, U.S. trend forecaster. He believes its going to be very violent in the U.S., including there being a tax revolt.

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1 posted on 02/14/2009 6:50:03 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

A nice benefit from a culture that’s lazy and filled with underachievers (with strong self esteem) is that revolution is just too hard. Ain’t gunna happen.


2 posted on 02/14/2009 6:53:34 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

People are afraid of their children getting bit by a bug, you really think they are going to line them up for a Revolution?

The only people involved in a Revolution will those who didn’t take the Mark.


3 posted on 02/14/2009 6:55:03 PM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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To: autumnraine

No revolution. It’s just drama queens indulging in their rich fantasy life.


4 posted on 02/14/2009 6:56:14 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Steelfish

Upheaval, maybe. Violent revolution, doubtful. But i do basically believe the essence of the financial aspects of this guy’s evaluation.


5 posted on 02/14/2009 7:03:13 PM PST by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: Steelfish

Depression after 2-3 years. No revolution...not going to happen. Without a strong moral conviction or belief in the cause, a revolution will only get the participants killed for nothing. I don’t see either one existing in our society today among enough people to get the job done. I believe people are going to have to suffer for a while before they finally wake up and realize they need to believe something.


6 posted on 02/14/2009 7:13:22 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Steelfish

They better bring a bucket to catch the Slobbering.

Pray for America and Our Troops


7 posted on 02/14/2009 7:13:45 PM PST by bray (The District of Corruption fits Obama like a Glove)
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To: Steelfish

Contrary to the thoughts of others, it may happen. The American Revolution did not begin with widespread public support or large numbers of people. All it takes to begin is a group of men who believe in and fight for their principles. After it has started, it is easier for others to join. The other possiblity is that desperation may cause some to join as those who have nothing left to lose will see an advantage in fighting for a cause. If we do not have enough men of character, then it will only happen if people become desperate enough.


8 posted on 02/14/2009 7:23:47 PM PST by ArmedSkeptic
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

People trained to live off the gubbint won’t revolt unless the gravy train stops.

No I fear we are only looking at movement to a totalitarian style govt which uses the gay agenda and environmentalism to control the population. Eventually we’ll all be killed by the muslims after refusing to convert.


9 posted on 02/14/2009 7:25:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ArmedSkeptic

It can’t start into todays environment. Anyone talking of it will be jailed. Anyone taking action will feel the black boots on their throats before any organization can take place.


10 posted on 02/14/2009 7:27:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

So should we cower down and lick the hands of our masters?

To many people operate in fear of the government. At what point do we make a stand and show the government that it works for us?

All it takes for evil to succeed is for the good to do nothing. Right now I see a lot of nothing.


11 posted on 02/14/2009 7:32:19 PM PST by ArmedSkeptic
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To: Ted Grant

There are not-quite-senile-yet boomers who grew up as kids in a good and decent America. They remember living the American dream.
By age 60-something, after they lose their businesses, their retirement money and everything they worked hard for all their lives-—what would they have to lose????

Yeah, I think there is some potential for uprising.
Ask a man what’s the best thing he can leave for his kids and he’ll probably tell you;
“The concept of FREEDOM”


12 posted on 02/14/2009 7:44:27 PM PST by two23
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To: Steelfish

The revolution will start when the credit cards stop working!


13 posted on 02/14/2009 7:45:44 PM PST by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: ArmedSkeptic

“Contrary to the thoughts of others, it may happen. The American Revolution did not begin with widespread public support or large numbers of people.”

Exactly. It doesn’t take a whole lot of people to raise hell.


14 posted on 02/14/2009 7:48:40 PM PST by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: ArmedSkeptic
I agree, sure it could happen, and right about the American Revolution's beginnings.

BTW, for anyone who wants detail and a good feel of the first 50 years of the the United States Of America buy the John Adams Book and DVD Set off Amazon.

Watch the series first one time with English subtitles, then thoroughly read the book. You will discover that our govt basically is going against our Founding Principles, and we the citizens are suffering ‘injury’ because of it's actions. This book and miniseries are keepers and should be revisited every year on the Fourth of July.

IMO there should be an organization established similar to the NRA or Heritage Foundation that monitors govt actions in relation to the Founding Principles, and a Legit ‘Tax Revolt’ organized.

Remember, the govt can't do evil things without your taxpayer money. And if millions revolt by withholding taxes maybe it can stay peaceful.
Sure, they can put you in Fema Detention camps with Illegal Aliens they accept from Mexico when it collapses to feed, cloth them and use them for govt labor, but if millions of Americans are in those camps they won't be paying taxes, the govt’s lifeblood!

***Contrary to the thoughts of others, it may happen. The American Revolution did not begin with widespread public support or large numbers of people. All it takes to begin is a group of men who believe in and fight for their principles. After it has started, it is easier for others to join. The other possiblity is that desperation may cause some to join as those who have nothing left to lose will see an advantage in fighting for a cause. If we do not have enough men of character, then it will only happen if people become desperate enough.***

15 posted on 02/14/2009 8:09:56 PM PST by msnpatriot
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To: Steelfish

I talked to someone in the know and this is not the truth.


16 posted on 02/14/2009 8:11:27 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Steelfish

I think this guy is over the top and provides little substance.

He cited store closings as a problem? America is completely over saturated with malls/stores anyway, a good shakeout is great.

tax revolts? why?

buying gold? yes, most of us here tend to agree with that - as we all expect inflation.

His criticism of Obama is true, but nothing to do with impending doom.


17 posted on 02/14/2009 8:11:50 PM PST by arkadyka
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To: Steelfish

So who is going to revolt? White people over 40 in the top tax bracket? Who will we fight? The US army and local police? Total b/s.


18 posted on 02/14/2009 8:16:01 PM PST by uscabjd ( a)
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To: arkadyka

“tax revolts? why?”

LOL!


19 posted on 02/14/2009 8:18:03 PM PST by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: ArmedSkeptic
It really doesn't take a whole lot to effect CHANGE.

All it takes is good men deciding to correct bad things.

Its pretty common in world history.

Civilian control over the armed forces is a very iffy thing.

20 posted on 02/14/2009 8:22:30 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: uscabjd

We have a lot of angry people who could go desperate. That is a scary recipe for the fed to step in even further, and ultimately force our hand.

Celente is the worst case scenario. However, when he says we are skipping along and accepting state run capitalism, most agree. Fortunately I was taught at an early age that state run capitalism is fascism.

These are wild times.


21 posted on 02/14/2009 8:27:11 PM PST by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Globalist Goon

Thanks - but WHO are the angry people, why are they angry and who will they fight? Basic questions. In the early 80’s, we had 15% prime, 10% unemployment, high taxes, high inflation and no growth. No riots - Carter just lost the election.


22 posted on 02/14/2009 8:32:03 PM PST by uscabjd ( a)
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To: uscabjd

Who? The poor who were promised the world. The government is way over their head in just a few weeks time. That is the lightning rod, not angry constitutional revolutionaries. The crime spreading up from Mexico is not helping the prospects of a rebirth of small government in the next 4 years either.


23 posted on 02/14/2009 8:39:04 PM PST by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Steelfish
(Excerpt) Read more at buchanan.org ...

Next time, try a more credible news outlet!

24 posted on 02/14/2009 8:58:52 PM PST by danmar (Reason obeys itself,and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it! Thomas Paine)
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To: ArmedSkeptic
Contrary to the thoughts of others, it may happen.

We conservatives will always be better equipped for the rigors and deprivation of a revolution because they actually believe in liberty. Can you imagine the majority of youth today willing to give up their Playstation/XBox, their weed, their beer, sex etc. to fight a revolution? Subconsciously that is why they believe in a all-powerful state so that they can be left to self-indulge with no need to be personally involved in the welfare of their fellow citizens.

The very narcissistic nature of many youth today (doesn't mean many don't have good qualities), learned primarily from the entertainment and academia wings of society, by definition means that they have learned to talk a good game about compassion, anti-racism, anti-homophobia, environmentalism, yada yada but in the end as long as they claim to be for all of the liberal dogma they don't have to actually practice it - just keep their transgressions under the radar.

We conservatives have been toughened by dealing with the constant demand of the left to take the easy way out and never fight the inherent hypocrisy of modern liberalism but our honest conscience demands that when we see the emperor wears no clothes, we tell him or her to put some clothes on and let's talk.

25 posted on 02/14/2009 9:17:33 PM PST by torchthemummy (If You Still Have A TV Subscription You Are Funding The Socialist Takeover!)
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To: arkadyka

tax revolts? why?

I think tax revolts will happen as people have no choice. The govt. takes our money and spends it for whatever they want, like ACORN. People will begin to lose everything and stop paying taxes to survive. When you lose everything, you have nothing to lose, then you lose it! That sort of thing.


26 posted on 02/14/2009 9:35:50 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: uscabjd

The US army

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27 posted on 02/14/2009 9:38:07 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Globalist Goon

To: arkadyka

“tax revolts? why?”

LOL!

Yaa I LOL’ed too as I thought to myself, is this person for real?


28 posted on 02/14/2009 9:38:58 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: uscabjd

Thanks - but WHO are the angry people, why are they angry and who will they fight? Basic questions. In the early 80’s, we had 15% prime, 10% unemployment, high taxes, high inflation and no growth. No riots - Carter just lost the election.

We DID NOT have a MARXIST president that want to RULE us.


29 posted on 02/14/2009 9:40:24 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: mojitojoe

We have been taxed to death already and in some states like NY/MA its getting obnoxious. Still, people just take it - what else are they going to do?

The only way a tax revolt can happen is if its executed like an organized labor strike. That won’t happen, so tax revolts are unlikely.

Especially considering that taxes are highest in liberal strongholds where people are not armed.


30 posted on 02/14/2009 9:56:24 PM PST by arkadyka
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To: ArmedSkeptic

“So should we cower down and lick the hands of our masters?”

No, I’m merely suggesting some thought about the realities before advocating the use of violence against the govt.


31 posted on 02/15/2009 2:25:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: autumnraine

“People are afraid of their children getting bit by a bug, you really think they are going to line them up for a Revolution?”

LOL I agree with you. But, remember our original american revolution was accomplished by just 1/3 of the population. Rush has said several times that 1/3 were sympathetic to England, 1/3 didn’t give a hoot, and the other 1/3 did the fighting.

So, I still think we have maybe 1/3 of our current U.S. population who would be willing to fight. And we do have reason to fight. Our First and Second Amendment rights are hanging by a thread as we speak!


32 posted on 02/15/2009 2:47:44 AM PST by ync1994
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To: mojitojoe

How will tax revolts happen? That is, the majority of our federal taxes are taken right out of our paychecks by “withholding”.


33 posted on 02/15/2009 2:52:37 AM PST by ync1994
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To: ync1994

HEY!!!!

You are RIGHT!

I needed to be reminded of that.


34 posted on 02/15/2009 4:14:21 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristopherson)
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