Skip to comments.What about the LEO's ?
Posted on 02/14/2009 7:15:10 PM PST by knarf
We've heard about many people that have lost everything because of the "economic meltdown", but they've all been general citizen types, the rich, the middle and others .. but ...
OK, ok .. I have my tin foil on ... and I've never needed meds .. so .. chew on this.
We all know the coup has been successful, and that there is more to come.
And we all have been, and will continue to discuss what to do and where do we go from here.
And there IS that nagging, underlieing feeling that there may just BE a citizen's revolt of some kind.
Now if all this is correct, the gendarmes will have to be called in to squelch us rebels ... right?
What financial protection do the LEO's have for THEIR retirement?
I'm 61, and I've always been led to believe that MY SS wouldn't be touched .. it was all you younger folks ... but I'm not so sure now.
OK, so ... if there IS a rebellion ... what would motivate the cops to actually arrest us, or shoot us, or whatever?
Aren't they in the same boat?
Every should start claiming 9 on line 5 of your W-4s to greatly slow down the federal income from our taxes.
Now you are concerned that you will not get yours.
Let me be the first to say:
Bite me old man! You knew you were steeling from your grand-children. Now you realize that your parents stole from you and have the nerve to act angry/upset?
The cops are just as broke as anybody. But old habits die hard. They will bust heads.
Generally speaking, the powers to be will try to protect LEO/Military for obvious reasons.
However, the US has people in those ranks that for the most part, I think, are truly loyal to principles beyond the ‘masters’ commands.
That said, it may be a split at the end.
I lived where LEO/Military was struggling and mostly elected to support the leftist leadership, and is not pretty.
May we see something worthy of the USA and not of a third world country, because, that, is not something I want to go back to...
If the trouble is in zip code XXXXX then only fleas & leo’s will get paid in that zip code. Simple enough. Comply or starve is their method I suspect.
I’d say they’re in the same boat. All our local cops just lost their jobs so we can rely on the county cops to get here eventually.
I already claim 7 ... 9 is better, thanx ... it’s a start.
“Every should start claiming 9 on line 5 of your W-4s to greatly slow down the federal income from our taxes.”
I don’t think you should recommend this to people without telling them that it could cost them a lot of money in penalties and interest. If you do not have enough money withheld, they can and will assess a hefty financial penalty.
Hey Dimsdale ... I synopsized some data ... not whined about my lot in life.
No one is completely anonymous.
The next war is going to be fought in driveways, backyards, movie theatres, parking lots, ice cream parlors, etc....
What made you think that was true? At sixty one you have been around the block at least twice.
Politicians are habitual liars. Certainly you have figured that out by now.
>> They will bust heads.
and when they bust the old guy’s head for disobeying, YOU will pay for their medicare, whippersnapper!
You lose. We old farts simply outnumber you, and we all vote. There’s nothing you can do until we all die, and then we don’t care.
Anyway, who are you calling old? 61 is the new 40.
my wild guess is, they’d be the first to be ‘secured’ after blackwater puts boots on the ground - logistics chain of command and all. imo jmo moo
CA state retirement is among the root causes of that state’s fiscal problems. Many states lump city, county and state employees into a central retirement fund and manage future debt fueled by current inputs. In turn, these are managed like everyone else’s - with MM funds, bonds and the like. IOW, coppers are similar to other people in that they are getting hit, too. Big difference is that many of them have exceptional benefits and perks while working - at least in comparison to their private sector counterparts.
That's a bit heavy handed and out of line. Old men sacrificed a great deal for your freedom. Visit Arlington Cemetery sometime.
Since when are cops broke? They got it made in the shade.
One of the advantages of being almost done ... heh heh heh.
Uh, well, even if you meant ‘stealing’ you are still off-base.
But what do I know, I am an old man by your standards!!!
Educate thyself, then post.
Study what they did in Louisiana after Katrina.
It was modeled after what the Chinese do with the PLA.
They brought in LEOs from other parts of the country; while a local LEO might have qualms about disarming his neighbor, a LEO from elsewhere who would tend to disarm citizens (and I am not saying that all LEOs feel this way!) is more likely to do so without compunction under these circumstances.
Over the years here in FR, that seems to be the consensus.
Something about being (born in '48) ... a notch baby.
I pray I never reach that point. I isn't just about you and me. But let's look at the enemy. A bat eared turd that is so far over his head he is not smart enough to realize it. If that is what you fear my guess is you whistle past graveyards.
Some much for respect your elders.
When you were born is not the issue. What you do with the rest of your life is.
And here, I thought I was paying for my grandparents--since I was 14--and I'm a great-grandpa now (still working).
>> a LEO from elsewhere who would tend to disarm citizens... is more likely to do so without compunction [when brought in from another locale]
Arguably true, but this tactic cuts both ways. I’d like to see a bunch of diversity-school-graduate cops from Philly (or even Houston) grab the guns of a band of rural Central Texas ranchers. Particularly at night. The local sheriff might know what to do, how and where to approach, and in any case his homeboys might not cooperate but they wouldn’t harm him. OTOH he Philly smartass LEO might be found in the morning tied to a tree with his genitals sewn inside his mouth.
SS will be reduced by the coming monetization of the Federal debt. Similar to thye Zimbabwe situation. The Obamabuck will be worthless. Plan for survival by buying now essential supplies.
Youth is wasted on the young. Just a joke everyone.
I’m 60 and I never believed Social Security for a minute — well, for a minute of my adult life. Politicians can’t handle money, and they don’t get rewarded for probity and prudence.
The penalties and intrest will not keep up with the devaluation of the dollar when they monetize the debt. Cheap loans. Max out the w-4 and pay it back with totally worthless dollars.
“Id like to see a bunch of diversity-school-graduate cops from Philly (or even Houston) grab the guns of a band of rural Central Texas ranchers.
Sometimes I wish I lived in Texas!
That IS the spirit!!!
They get their rewards from theft and corruption. We can all see this.
I own my home and land, armed, provisioned and all that stuff.
I was layed off the day after the election and I don't know if I'll get back again (CDL truck driver, no otr ... widower w/2 minor children) ... plenty of younger guys with less medical expectations, etc.
What I mean is .. I'm pretty well OK for now, no retirement (401 .. it disappeared) .. and I had always thought SS would be there anyway.
And there IS a reality to knowing and accepting ones own mortality.
That is something I know great deal about. But you are still alive. Act like it.
Yup ... that just about sums up the way I've been thinkin' lately.
When I was a peace officer (I refused to call myself an LEO) I pondered this during the Clinton years. I could not have imagined abondoning principal to save my paycheck or retirement I don’t know how many others would feel the same way these days.
“abondoning” = abandoning
Why worry about paying up unless you think "The One" will nominate you for a cabinet post?
Sheesh. Can’t spell “principle” right either.
If you are asking why I plan on paying my taxes, it is simple. I have 5 kids, and 2 on the way. I have enough trouble paying what I owe, without adding a bunch of excess penalties. Don’t need the IRS on my back either. If you are planning some kind of tax revolt. Good luck with that.
“The next war is going to be fought in driveways, backyards, movie theatres, parking lots, ice cream parlors, etc....”
Agreed. A lot of folks predict the next “Civil War” in terms of States v States with the Fed Gov on one side or the other but I don’t think so.
I did you one better. :) I claimed ten.
And I’m in California. You know, the state that’s sending out IOU’s in lieu of refund checks?
Only reprimands I got as a deputy were when I refused to do the community policing projects. It was just a Clintonista / Reno BS effort to try and be the citizens keepers and scare em .
I always tried to educate em by telling em to arm themselves and defend themselves and make sure there is just one side of the story when they call me to sweep up a body....... my FTO and Sgt didn’t like me doing such briefings !.......:o)
Yep. My advice was always get a gun, learn how to use it, then get more guns. If they were liberals, I’d say get petitions and have them ready to use if they get attacked.
When you hear about the Regional Assistant Sub Director of the Department of Ragweed getting his ass whacked in a movie theater, or IMO more likely, some BLM Assistant Jerkoffs in Charge Of F****** With Ranchers in Idaho or Montana ending up with a screwdriver in his ear at the Tastee-Freez you'll know 'it's' started.
Lurker, you nailed it, that is how it happens!
"Made in the shade?" You obviously don't know what "cops" make! They are extremely underpaid for the jobs that they do. Their pay is so low that their spouses have to work too. My deceased husband was an LEO, so I know what I'm talking about!
Precedent Stinky aka BO is barely 3 weeks into his sedition and even those that voted for him are hungry, worried and watching this POS , steal money from em, go on vacation and throw Stevie Wonder a friggin party at the WH........... his actions are criminal, insulting and dangerous to every person in this country.
We have circled our wagons here....... all our investments have been cashed out and stored either in a bonded secure storage facility or a safe deposit box at our local bank. When direct deposits are put in our bank account we draw out all but the amount for paying utilities and other bills that are electronic transfers as well.
Zero confidence in this nations fiscal abilities right now.....zero !
God, Guns, Groceries and Gold is all we rely on for now.
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