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10th Amendment Power- Montana Tells Feds To Leave Montana's Guns Alone
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com/ ^ | 05/11/09 | Sasparilla

Posted on 05/11/2009 8:04:29 AM PDT by Sasparilla

The tentacles have been cut off the Federal gun regulation octopus in the Big Sky State. The gun law is a gloves off slap in the face of the Federal Government and gun control groups. The Bradys are apoplectic once again. Montana exercised its 10th Amendment state sovereignty as the Governor signed a law that exempts guns, accessories such as magazines, silencers, and ammunition made in the state of Montana from all Federal firearms regulation. The guns and ammunition can't leave the state of Montana, and all guns made there must have "Made In Montana" stamped on them. There are no background checks, no serial numbers, and no paperwork.

The state believes that since the Montana made guns don't cross state lines, then they are immune to all Federal Interstate commerce law's regulation. The state believes that just as the second amendment's "well regulated" militia, doesn't refer to the National Guard, which was created a hundred or so years after the second Amendment was written, regulation of interstate commerce doesn't apply because nothing travels interstate between the states. Montanans believe that when the State was admitted to the Union that the Second Amendment was a contract between the State, The people, and the United States and that it guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms.

The Montana firearms industry isn't big. There are just a few specialty gun makers there, and a few that make western re-creations. But, of course the implications are huge. Alaska and Texas are considering similar legislation. Colonel Travis would be proud of Texas. The state will go and further will arrest any Federal agents in Montana who try to enforce Federal gun law over Montana made guns and ammo.

Losing any power is not in politician's blood, especially in the Obama administration. This law...

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To: SJSAMPLE
We shall have to disagree...while you enjoy the new show, I tend to agree with Benedict's assessment of it...

"...a show of despair, sexual violence and family dysfunction. To better reflect the times of ambiguous morality in which we live, one would assume. A show in which the aliens (Cylons) are justified in their desire to destroy human civilization, one would assume. Indeed, let us not say who the good guys are and who the bad are. That is being “judgmental,” taking sides, and that kind of (simplistic) thinking went out with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan and Kathryn Hepburn and John Wayne and, well, the original “Battlestar Galactica.”

41 posted on 05/11/2009 10:10:43 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Dirk Benedict wants us to return to a show that NOBODY would watch. It would produce nothing but laughter - as did the original series.

I like both the humans and the cylons in the new series, and have to actually think about which group is “right” at a particular time.
Imagine that. The “bad guys” have an actual grievance and wrestle with the morality of their acts.

Benedict knows that his character and performance only work if you suspend credible thinking and accept one side as the ONLY side. People want to think, and his “Galactica” required none of that.

And, throwing around Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and John Wayne doesn’t work either. Little more than name-dropping to try to force an incoherent point.

Families can be dysfunctional. I know this.
Former slaves can harbor resentment. Not a giant leap there.

Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan weren’t “simplistic”, they were committed. Benedict doesn’t seem to understand this.


42 posted on 05/11/2009 10:42:40 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Non-Sequitur

“So will it be the job of the state to ensure none of their domestically manufactured firearms leave the state? How will they do that?”

Nope, its up to the individual to keep the products in the state of Montana. Venture outside the state with them and you are Fed bait.


43 posted on 05/11/2009 10:59:34 AM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Gaffer
It is now only a matter of where the first actual shots will be fired.

It takes a lot of will and self sacrifice to defeat an army and I think you give waaaaay too much credit to the people of this nation. Going back to the Vietnam era this country will not rise up and take up arms in facing a modern military force. The test of this was the gun grab after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. If anybody could be expected to shoot back you'd think it'd be them thar CAJUNS but noooooo they all rolled over.

A lot of folks talk FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS but when they face a crystal nacht midnight raid from a SWAT team for their guns with MP5s pointed at the heads of their kids, they'll do what the generations of public school grads have been well taught: They will submit with a mere whimper.

Randy Weaver was as good as his word in this respect. What did it get him. A dead wife. A dead son a dead dog and a court case. He won rthe court case but those loved ones are still dead. Did the rest of the populace RISE UP to help? Nope, we all watched as the goons in government and their federal gestapo were built up as heroes by the mass media as the poor citizen (Weaver) was vilified and isolated. Cut off he had one choice: Surrender. That it took the most decorated Special Forces Officers of the Vietnam era was significant. Bo Gritz negotiated the surrender but after the cost in lives had already been paid.

Talk is cheap. Deeds not words.

44 posted on 05/11/2009 11:27:51 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

While I agree largely with you. Times such as now and yet-to-come are not ordinary. You will begin to see the smart ones go quiet. You also presume that the ‘Army’ will abet what is likely to come. At some point a difficult decision spurred by strife will occur. It is then we will see if our soldiers really value freedom and liberty over obedience. People do not even come close to realize what is happening now, but they will...


45 posted on 05/11/2009 11:59:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sasparilla

46 posted on 05/11/2009 12:17:25 PM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
The Big Sky state has given the big middle finger salute to the feds.

I would characterize it more as the scene in Braveheart where the Scots moon the English army at Stirling Bridge. IOW, a prelude to armed conflict.

47 posted on 05/11/2009 1:27:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: VR-21
Great pic. Those aren't cockroaches, tho' -- they're giant water bugs.

I've been bitten by them a couple times; here in Florida we have the 4-inch long variety. Nasty critters.

48 posted on 05/11/2009 6:01:31 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
I appreciate the correction Joe. I was given the pic by another FReeper who thought I offended snakes when I used this to illustrate my opinion of the United States Congress.


49 posted on 05/11/2009 6:11:59 PM PDT by VR-21 (The election of Barack Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
So will it be the job of the state to ensure none of their domestically manufactured firearms leave the state? How will they do that?

Not at all. The law simply says "Montana citizen, IF you keep a Montana made weapon in state, the following federal infringements do not apply to you....". Obviously if a person takes such a weapon out of state, whatever happens is beyond the scope of this law.

50 posted on 05/11/2009 8:54:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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The FBI'S rules of engagement at Ruby Ridge were unconstitutional,never the less the FBI snipe shot Viki Weaver and was released under claim of Supremacy clause immunity of a federal agent. We will never win in court.
51 posted on 05/11/2009 9:28:23 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose
http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/weaver.shtml

What happened to randy And Viki Weaver could happen to any of us.

52 posted on 05/12/2009 8:03:09 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Joe Brower
I've been bitten by them a couple times; here in Florida we have the 4-inch long variety. Nasty critters.

They used to fly onto the flightline at Homestead when we fired up the lights at night. Is there any big, weird, ugly insect that doesn't live in Florida?

53 posted on 05/12/2009 10:07:54 AM PDT by gundog
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To: gundog
"They used to fly onto the flightline at Homestead when we fired up the lights at night. Is there any big, weird, ugly insect that doesn't live in Florida?"

I believe you are thinking of this friendly fellow, the "Palmetto Bug":

You haven't really had the genuine Florida experience until you have one of these land on the back of your neck and run down the inside of your shirt.

54 posted on 05/12/2009 8:03:10 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

Yet another reason I’m glad I got out of Florida.


55 posted on 05/12/2009 8:04:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: dfwgator
Oh, they aren't that bad. At least they don't bite. They just give you a heart attack $;-)
56 posted on 05/12/2009 8:11:50 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
You haven't really had the genuine Florida experience until you have one of these land on the back of your neck and run down the inside of your shirt.

How about cruising wide open down Rt. 40 one night south of Sarasota on a Honda, and having one hit smack into your chest and go down your shirt. I had bug bits all over me.

Being the Yankee boy I was, I don't know they made bugs that damn big. I'm just glad I didn't have to floss him out of my teeth. ;~))

57 posted on 05/12/2009 8:13:08 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
"I'm just glad I didn't have to floss him out of my teeth."

They actually taste quite good if you fry them up and dip them in chocolate. Nutritious, too, if a bit crunchy. $:-)

58 posted on 05/12/2009 8:27:19 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
Nutritious, too, if a bit crunchy.

Crunchy for sure, but I doubt they taste like chicken. ;~))

59 posted on 05/12/2009 9:02:23 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Joe Brower
I believe you are thinking of this friendly fellow, the "Palmetto Bug"

Oh, no...I'm well aware of the difference.

You haven't really had the genuine Florida experience until you have one of these land on the back of your neck and run down the inside of your shirt.

I'll go ya one better: all of the urinals needed to be removed from one of the AMU bathrooms. First, one comes up...no problem, as do the second and third ones. When the fourth and final one was lifted, out pours thousands of Palmetto bugs, We're talking an eruption that covered the floor and kept on coming.

A friend of mine had a pet one in his Camaro. We'd be driving down the road and he'd say "There he is." It'd sit on top of his tape deck and you could see it's antennae in the green glow.

60 posted on 05/13/2009 7:44:54 AM PDT by gundog
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