Skip to comments.Shock: Barack Obama co-opts top 2012 Republican to be his ambassador to China
Posted on 05/17/2009 12:42:35 AM PDT by Schnucki
This is a very clever move by President Barack Obama. He's chosen Governor Jon Huntsman of Utah as his ambassador to China.
A Republican, former ambassador to Singapore and fluent Mandarin speaker, Huntsman has recently staked out centrist stances on gay rights, climate change and stimulus spending. He'd made clear his contempt for the Republican congressional leadership, saying: "I have not met them. I don't listen or read whatever it is they say because it is inconsequential - completely."
That made him the best-placed moderate Republican to challenge for the 2012 presidential nomination. By any analysis, at this stage a 2012 Republican victory looks like an uphill struggle. Mitt Romney - a former moderate who's now positioned himself firmly on the Right - is probably the front runner with governors Mark Sanford of South Carolina and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota also likely to run.
Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana appears to be biding his time until 2016 while the soap opera storyline of Sarah Palin;s family and her virtual estrangement from the national GOP make her look a long shot.
Huntsman probably calculated that he would not win in 2012 even if he did manage to secure the nomination. Much better, he would have reasoned, to wait out 2012, gain some major foreign policy experience while not being linked to Obama's domestic policies and have a chance in 2016.
Like the Conservative party in Britain after 1997, it looks to be a long road back for Republicans so taking a time out is likely to be a shrewd decision for someone like Huntsman.
What does Obama gain? It's a concrete example of bipartisanship, he peels off a Republican moderate and therefore shifts the party's centre of gravity further to the Right - which is where Democrats want it),
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“the soap opera storyline of Sarah Palin’s family and her virtual estrangement from the national GOP make her look a long shot.”
How do these beasts sleep at night knowing how many lies they propagate?
“That made him the best-placed moderate Republican to challenge for the 2012 presidential nomination. By any analysis, at this stage a 2012 Republican victory looks like an uphill struggle. “
Good. Put him in China. Clears the field for a conservative.
I never heard of this guy Huntsman. He must be quite a frontrunner.
oooooh, such a clever move, inspector Clouseau. As if Huntsman had any chance at all. Whoopeee doo.
>>How do these beasts sleep at night knowing how many lies they propagate?<<
Not to mention being ambassador to China under President Ford didn’t exactly hurt President Bush41.
Huntsman is a RINO. Loves his gay marriage if memory serves.
Huntsman would have a snowmans chance in hell.
An unknown lib.
From the Real Conservative Republican
Univ wrong to place prestige above principle Palin weighs in
Boston Herald ^ | 05-17-09 | Holly Robichaud
Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, a strong pro-life advocate, weighed in on the issue with me by e-mail:
My favorite grandpa, Clem James Sheeran, was Catholic. Irish to the core, his favorite place (other than church) was Notre Dame.
I cant imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
As we learned today, our nation is more pro-life than ever before; it is a very important time to strengthen the message that every baby is created for good purpose and has the potential to make this world a better place.
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I don’t agree with the nastiness around Palin.
However, I don’t want her anywhere near the nomination in 2012 or 2016 or ever. She is not a strong conservative policy wonk. There are many stronger candidate alternatives.
Fortunately, leaders make stronger candidates than wonks.
There is no stronger candidate than Gov. Palin.
She is a policy person, and the experience to prove it.
Non of the other candidates drew crowds like she did, and gave her speech at the convention without a teleprompter as it broke earlier.
And of the three, the only actual conservative is Sanford.
Huntsman is doing the Dark Lord’s work, he’s come to destroy the Republican party.
Anyone who think Palin has a prayer of winning the Whitehouse for the GOP is delusional at best.
I won’t argue. There is simply zero chance she will ever be a GOP nominee, let alone the POTUS.
I was excited about her too when she was picked as the VP candiate. Don’t get me wrong. She was treated unfairly and all that. However, I won’t be voting for her in the GOP primary battle.
I never heard of this guy. Given what I read about him in this article, I am so thankful he became an Obama bot.
I don’t want him any where near the GOP primary race or the GOP for that matter.
Centrist? Who the hell needs one?
When a leftist like Obama can lie through and win an election, why can’t a right wing candidate?
Gov. Palin is the true conservative, also believes in fighting the war against the IslamOfascists.
Her oldest son is fighting in Iraq.
Sandy like RINO Paul is not a believer in Fighting this war.
the soap opera storyline of Sarah Palins family and her virtual estrangement from the national GOP make her look a long shot.
HA! Keep telling yourselves that Palin hater/deriders.
You really don’t have a clue about her background or her daily work as gov. or you wouldn’t make the comment
So who are you voting for ?
Right now, my bet is on Newt Gingrich getting in to the race. I think he would have a great chance at a nomination and Gingrich/Palin or Gingrich/Jindal would be very strong tickets with excellent prospects of a 16-year conservative Republican presidency.
When it takes over two mins to answer that question, either an uninformed person or troll
I wouldn’t rule out the possibility she wins the nomination—perhaps if Obama’s very popular and she doesn’t have strong competition for it—but you’re right about the general election.
Many on here, however, are living in their own little world where Palin is somehow popular with not just conservatives but most Americans.
Let’s see what they say. I’m quite curious.
This guy probably has a direct line to China.
He’s a Trojan Horse Democrat, that much we know.
Why are her background and daily work as governor so relevant? I think we saw enough to make that judgment with reasonable confidence.
It may not be completely impossible for her to revamp her image with most Americans, but I don’t think it’s likely.
What a stupid thing to say.
I have several decades of following and being involved in politics to judge who is the better candidate.
I am ret. from the legal field with the County Attys.
Have been in the real world, not just books.
She doesn’t need to revamp her image.
It is the Left wing MSM trying to trash her.
Exactly. And that fella still hasn’t answered me back.
LOL! I often get either the no answer or I am still thinking about it.
Oh, what was your prediction in 2006? 2008? I’m assuming you made some predictions on here, so I’d be interested in knowing how accurate they were.
I’m not sure how your legal experience is relevant to this, since neither of us is a professional in anything related to national politics.
Pro-abortion? Pro-gay-marriage? Probably buys into the AGW hoax, also.
I also worked for Reagan when he first ran for Gov.
I don’t get into pissing contests with kids.
It might not be impossible, but it will be hard for her to recover from negatives that high. And whether or not you think she needs to revamp her image, obviously she does if she's going to appeal to a large share--perhaps even a majority--of Americans.
You're silly if you think that Paul--or any of the other "conservatarians"--is a RINO.
Aside from his positions with regard to the conduct of war, his belief in strict adherence to the Constitution as a means of limiting the power of our Government are far more "conservative" than the majority of Republicans, who seem to have gotten quite drunk on power under Bush. [And no, trying to deflect blame on the Democrats by pointing to Pelosi and Reid and arguing that they controlled Congress won't work here. The Republicans held control of Congress for six years, with a Republican president, and failed to follow through on any of their earlier promises to the electorate to actually shrink Government back within its Constitutionally delimited boundaries.]
Without the "conservatarians"--all you've got are social conservatives and hawks, neither of which is opposed to the expansion and consolidation of federal power so long as the exercise thereof serves their own ends.
Continue to ignore, berate, and belittle "conservatarians" like Paul at your own risk...but don't be surprised when you wake up one morning in a police state.
Now, with regard to Paul: if not for him--and folks like Mark Sanford--I would have given up on the conservative movement outright...since, after all, looking out for yourself first is a very "pragmatic" approach to life.
Oh, and by the way: if I wanted to vote for "charisma" I would have voted for 0bama. I want someone like Sanford who, despite a few flaws, is willing to unremittingly attack the size of Government. I don't care how charismatic they are. So, if all your faction has to present is Palin, then y'all are toast in 2012.
As far as Sanford, Mitt, Pawlenty and others they don’t stand a chance. Sandy looks and sounds like a funeral director, Pawlenty no better, Mitt flip flops more than a fish out of water.
He is sitting at home around 10 miles from me here in San Diego. He has 5 sons and not one has served in the military.
L Ron Paul is a RINO, he supports Third Party candidates.
His views in many areas are more to the left, one reason Cindy Sheehan supported him.
Check out the thread from the other evening where the Paulbot was Zotted and the comments about Paul from a
large number of FReepers.
Ask Jim what he think of RINO Paul
Sounds like these guys would’ve been backing George Christopher in the ‘66 primary, doncha think ?
a blast from the past.
The author is trying to make this sound like a page out of FDR’s playbook. IIRC, Roosevelt appointed some potential challenger (I forget the name, I imagine some of you can fill it in for me) to an ambassadorship, which effectively removed him from the GOP list of possible candidates for the next election.
0bama has done nothing even close to this. Yes, he can make a claim to “bipartisanship”. The likelihood of this governor, whom many of us have never even heard of, being a frontrunner for the GOP race in 2012 is a stretch at best (IMHO).
Keep trying, lefties. LOL!
If I recall, you seemed to think Duncan Hunter was a great candidate too. So I’m not sure how much credibility you have on this issue.
When McCain was nominated and picked Gov. Palin to run against Obama, I voted for Mac & Gov. Palin vs Obama
I don’t vote in general elections for a third party or wirte ins. That stupidity gave us Bill Clinton
Yeah, kinda like remembering the case of the crabs one would catch in a Hong Kong brothel way back when.
And that disaster Woodrow Wilson, too.
Most FReepers who bash Gov. Palin don’t have as their
tag their candidate’s name. I guess they are ashamed of their candidate or don’t have the intellect
to defentd their candidate
And is there something particularly wrong with supporting conservative third parties? Or is FR an exclusively Republican site now, regardless of whether the Republican Party is actually conservative?
His views in many areas are more to the left, one reason Cindy Sheehan supported him.
If Paul is such a leftist--as you implicitly claim, by not identifying the areas on which you disagree with him--then why was Michele Bachmann hanging out at his lunches and learning Austrian economic theory and other libertarian-ish ideas?
Check out the thread from the other evening where the Paulbot was Zotted and the comments about Paul from a large number of FReepers.
I saw that thread.
But I refuse to take the bait that you have set out in an attempt to try to get me zotted.
Paul isn't the only candidate I favor. Sanford, DeMint, Toomey, and McClintock are on my good list too. [And poor Virgil Goode: he got defeated because too many non-local U.Va. students registered here and voted for that bastard Perriello.] Oh, and I gave money to both Goode's and Bachmann's campaigns last year--did you?
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