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Presidential Poll: Gov Palin 74%, Huckabee 54%, Romney 52%, Jindal 19% & Ron Paul 9%
Governor Palin 4 President ^

Posted on 06/28/2009 8:04:03 PM PDT by MaxCUA

In a Republican Party of Kansas Poll the results where not even close.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; 2012gopprimary; huckabee; jindal; ks2009; palin; poll; romney
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To: SoCalPol

Great Pics - SARAH ROCKS!!!


51 posted on 06/28/2009 8:47:19 PM PDT by NordP (BHO's new book, "To Serve Man/United States" --- NO NO NO....RUN....it's a COOKBOOK!)
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To: Liberty Valance

Awesome painting.


52 posted on 06/28/2009 8:48:45 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: MaxCUA

I would love for them to do a poll in Iowa and New Hampshire. Just to get a feel from those two states. I believe that she will win South Carolina but she needs to win either Iowa or New Hampshire for sure!


53 posted on 06/28/2009 8:55:09 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: MaxCUA

Is this the “new” math?


54 posted on 06/28/2009 8:57:26 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: MaxCUA
In a Republican Party of Kansas Poll the results where not even close.

I know the media and the Democrats think Palin would be easy pickings in 2012, but they should be careful what they wish for. Palin's handlers (or McCain's) constantly put her in bad situations with Couric and Gibson, and her family matters have become tabloid fodder, but the woman has undeniable charisma and star quality.

The media will of course go even beyond the usual strong job they usually do for the Democrats in 2012, but depending on circumstances and with a couple of strong debate performances, Palin can win in '12. Just watching the liberal establishment's collective head explode would be worth it.
55 posted on 06/28/2009 8:59:13 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Liberty Valance

The painting just reminds me how few good presidents we’ve had.... Teddy Roosevelt and Richard Nixon are an embarassment to that group.


56 posted on 06/28/2009 8:59:17 PM PDT by TorahTrueJew
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To: Positive; max americana

Yes, Jindal was born in the US.

After reading over the exceptions of a natural born citizen, his father was not a diplomat in the US but a student attending college. So therefore, the “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States.”, would not apply.

So I guess he would qualify. Glad I checked. I stand/sit corrected.


57 posted on 06/28/2009 8:59:42 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: ChrisInAR

>My problem w/ Rep. Paul is his age. I think he will be in his mid-70s in 2012, so I wish we could find a much younger real conservative w/ the respect for the Constitution that he has.

Sadly I’m only 27, so won’t be able to hold the office of president should I win in 2012. But thank you for thinking about me. ;)

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dv698tm_25c7b35cc9


58 posted on 06/28/2009 8:59:56 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Liberty Valance

I don’t see Calvin Coolidge in there. Why not? He was better than all of them.


59 posted on 06/28/2009 9:03:31 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: VicVega

Jindal would be perfect as Chief of Staff but the info on his status was helpful. If we had Palin THEN Jindal in the Cabinet, we would accomplish a lot of things.


60 posted on 06/28/2009 9:05:49 PM PDT by max americana
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To: SoCalPol

Didn’t I say that the reason I’d like a Palin/Paul ticket is because Palin would definitely temper his foreign policy into something a bit more realistic.

Paul is one of the few Congressmen, it seems to me, that has respect for the Constitution; look at his suggestion to issue letters of marque.

He is far more patriotic than many in the Congress; I would rather have him in office than that obvious treasonist, John Murtha. Ron Paul NEVER pretended to be anything other than anti-war, and so while I think the idea is not wise it is more honorable than the likes of BHO’s support for the war while condemning it, or Murtha’s anti-support while funding it.


61 posted on 06/28/2009 9:07:16 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MaxCUA

considering the other 4 are totally unacceptable, its scary the others got any votes at all! I still say she would be best on the VP side as long as a decent conservative steps up. (I like Barbour of Mississippi)


62 posted on 06/28/2009 9:08:11 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: VocalObserver

I think Palin is going to get beaten up in the next 4 years. Here’s my list from who wiki thinks will be running:

I think anyone from the GOP side is gonna get “beat up” by the MSM and DNC. And your poing being Mr. Romney????


63 posted on 06/28/2009 9:14:11 PM PDT by ak267
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To: max americana
Jindal-"Chief of Staff"

I would agree.

Maybe a long shot for Palin, but if she did win, I would hope she would get some fresh faces and not the same old same old.

Not referring to age, but to the same names.

GWB Cabinet and Staff was very similar to GHWB's Cabinet as is 0 and Clinton. Same names, different roles.

Besides some of these so called conservative republicans have not been so warm welcoming to Palin.

Jindal would be a fresh name and as I wrote earlier, RP for SOT. He is old, but he has the right ideas to get this nation back on its financial feet.

Too bad Sanford had to pull a Bill. He could have been a contender.

64 posted on 06/28/2009 9:14:28 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: OneWingedShark

Paul is more in line with Obama on world affairs.
Paul shares to many Liberal social values.

He is an Old Loon who has supporters handing out papers in support of a 9/11 Truther film


65 posted on 06/28/2009 9:16:07 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: VicVega

Jindal was born in Baton Rouge.


66 posted on 06/28/2009 9:19:36 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: TorahTrueJew

We could even argue that there have been just three or four good ones since Washington and NONE as good as he. I would say Monroe, Coolidge, even Harding is better than quite a few but he must have disappointed Florence.


67 posted on 06/28/2009 9:22:48 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: SoCalPol

>Paul is more in line with Obama on world affairs.

Such as? (And I alredy said that foreign policy is his weak point, didn’t I?)

>Paul shares to many Liberal social values.

Really? Like what? I do know that he is vehemently anti-infanticide (ie he is anti-abortion). Surely THAT is not what you’re referring to.

>He is an Old Loon who has supporters handing out papers in support of a 9/11 Truther film

So he’s responsible for all of his supporters? That’s like saying Bush is evil because some white-supremacist somewhere endorsed him; utterly absurd, especially when the person has not been appealing to those supporters on those issues.

I notice you didn’t attack his stance on Constitutionality, why is that?


68 posted on 06/28/2009 9:22:54 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Theodore R.

I know, but thanks. The City he was born in was not at issue.


69 posted on 06/28/2009 9:23:48 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: TorahTrueJew

>The painting just reminds me how few good presidents we’ve had.... Teddy Roosevelt and Richard Nixon are an embarassment to that group.

And Silent Cal isn’t there! :(


70 posted on 06/28/2009 9:25:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: VicVega

I know. What a disappointment for Sanford. He’s out of the running for sure. I wish this poll wasn’t out because everyday the MSM are constantly taking shots at Palin, whom they know is the only threat to this imbecile of a president.


71 posted on 06/28/2009 9:26:34 PM PDT by max americana
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To: OneWingedShark

All you have to do is read L Ron Paul’s own words and what he supports.

Congress voted to condemn Ahmadinejad for his anti American speech at the UN and Columbia a few yrs. back.
L Ron Paul voted against condemning the Terrorist Ahmadinejad.

Congress Voted in support of the Iranians in the streets wating freedom, L Ron Paul voted against the Iranians and their freedom.

L Ron Paul 6 April Denounced American and others in reaction to North Korean Rocket Launch. L Ron Paul believes North Korea poses no threat.

L Ron Paul blames American interventionism in the Middle East for out problems with them and why the attacks of
Sept. 11. Paul called it blowback.

Paul said “they attack us because we’ve been over there”
In other world L Ron Paul thinks we deserved 9/11
These are the same comments of Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, and the rest of the Left wing.

Paul voted No on Constitutional Amend banning same sex marriage Sept. 2004

Paul voted No on Constitutionally defining marriage asone man one woman July 2006

Opposes the death penality Jan 2007

Paul voted No on allowing school payer during the War on Terror Nov 2001.

Suppoprts Legalizing marajuana


72 posted on 06/28/2009 9:26:45 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: VocalObserver
I think Palin is going to get beaten up in the next 4 years
Sarah Palin – not strong enough

Yeah, by you.
73 posted on 06/28/2009 9:31:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: max americana
he MSM are constantly taking shots at Palin, whom they know is the only threat to this imbecile of a president.

If they were true journalist that did actual objective reporting, 0 wouldn't be in office.

Always trying to take down strong minded conservative women. It's going to back fire on them.

74 posted on 06/28/2009 9:33:16 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: CyberAnt
THE LEFT IS HYSTERICAL REGARDING Palin. They already know she’s a WINNER

Exactly! And they have their shrills saying she isn't ready! How clueless can one be and still breath.
75 posted on 06/28/2009 9:34:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: VocalObserver

Missed your ping. I agree, she will take a some hits from the press. She is a strong person, she will be fine.

RP may consider himself too old for the position. I do think as I posted another time, a good candidate for SOT.

Will have to look up Gary E. Johnson.

They can keep the RINO’s and Newt for sure. No interest. Romney would be the better of the VP’s on the list.

For the love of Mike, NO McCain. He was our Bob Dole in 08.


76 posted on 06/28/2009 9:56:35 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: MaxCUA
bump to the top.

77 posted on 06/28/2009 10:01:42 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor voter: Welcome to Obamacare (Peasant Care ®) You Sucker... Now Die! :^)
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To: OneWingedShark
Hey, you're old enough to run for the House next year...&, IMO, that's the part of government that matters the MOST: it's the House that holds the purse strings on the fedgov, therefore, if the House doesn't initiate any & all spending bills as the Constitution requires, it can't be done. )not legally, anyway). Their shortened 2-yr length of office also shows the importance of the House that the Founders had in mind. In 2012 you'll be able to run for Senate, too!

Thanks for sending me the "Consent of the Governed" link. I added it to my bookmarks. It's an excellent read! :-)

78 posted on 06/28/2009 10:10:13 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: VicVega
Jindal was born in this country. He is a natural born citizen. His parents where both immigrants, but this does not disqualify him from legally seeking the Presidency.

Andrew Jackson's parents were BOTH immigrants. Andrew Jackson was born to Presbyterian Scots-Irish immigrants Andrew and Elizabeth Hutchinson Jackson, on March 15, 1767, approximately two years after they had emigrated from Carrickfergus, in Northern Ireland.

79 posted on 06/28/2009 10:18:35 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: Jim from C-Town

Yes, we know about JIndal being born here. That was not the issues, it was his parents as immigrants and the reason for being in the states. If one or both parents were here as diplomats representing another country, in this case, India, than he technically would not qualify for the office of President.

True about AJ’s parents and good point.


80 posted on 06/28/2009 10:42:02 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Jim from C-Town; VicVega
Andrew Jackson's parents were BOTH immigrants. Andrew Jackson was born to Presbyterian Scots-Irish immigrants Andrew and Elizabeth Hutchinson Jackson, on March 15, 1767, approximately two years after they had emigrated from Carrickfergus, in Northern Ireland.

He was not born in this country. He was born before the adoption of the Constitution; therefore, the citizenship status of his parents is irrelevant because he falls under that definition of citizenship described by the Constitution for those who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Natural born, as understood by the framers, was someone born in the United States to parents both of whom were U.S. citizens at the time of the birth. This is clearly evident in law at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and from the writings of at least one of the framers on this very subject. The ones least likely to know about this also happen to be the ones who are most likely to say, "Well, I think it means such and such" and go on to propound whatever they manage to spin out of their heads for whatever reasons seem important to them at the time, much like the modern Supreme Court and Democrat/Rino legislatures, both State and Federal.
81 posted on 06/28/2009 10:48:44 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: VicVega
His mom and dad immigrated in order for his father to attend graduate school at Louisiana State in Baton Rouge. He qualifies, plane and simple. There is no dispute. He is as American as Apple Pie. I like Jindal he seems like a good guy. He is a strong conservative, pro-life Catholic, and can generally defend his positions. He actually speaks better off the cuff than from a telepromptor
82 posted on 06/28/2009 10:59:30 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: aruanan; Jim from C-Town

Aj was born in the US at least according to what I have read. Please show me otherwise.

You do make a good point about natural born citizen (national birthright). It Did not apply till some time in the 1860’s.

***U.S. citizens at the time of the birth. This is clearly evident in law at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and from the writings***

Funny, because that is what I always understood. Which was my first reason, but not stated why Jindal would not qualify. Unless his parents fast tracked citizenship in one year, he was born of immigrant parents.

After reading I changed it based on the definition of “natural born citizen” under qualifications of president.

So, based on the information regarding both parents being natural born citizens, does Jindal qualify or not?

I must clear up my confusion.

Thanks to both of you for the good discussion.


83 posted on 06/28/2009 11:01:31 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Jim from C-Town; aruanan

No issue on Jindal. I know where he lives, education, etc. Have friend that went to the same magnet school he did and the church he attended.

Not an issue. The issue was his parents and by definition does he qualify. Trying to sort that out on another post.

I feel like Kerry, flip flopping on the qualification issue.

aruanan copied both you and I on another post, 81. I responded and included you, post 83.


84 posted on 06/28/2009 11:08:47 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: aruanan

Granted this is the basis of part of the suites that attempt to invalidate the presidency of Obama. They are highly questionable arguements, and less convinceing than Obama being born in Kenya. Since the court seems unlikely to take up the case, the point is renderred irrelevant.

The court has not ruled on what an Actual NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is. EVER. However, since the present occupant of the Office of the President is obviously the son of a non-citizen and has been allowed to serve 1/8 of a term it can be deduced that the court must accept him as legitimate. After all Chief Justice Roberts swore him into office, not once but twice. I think Mr. Roberts probably has a better grasp of constitutional law THAN EITHER OF US. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Regardless, Jackson is not the only president to have imigrant parents. Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada. Many of these presidents were born within only a few years of their parents immigration.


85 posted on 06/28/2009 11:28:23 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: VicVega

After all Chief Justice Roberts swore him into office, not once but twice. I think Mr. Roberts probably has a better grasp of constitutional law THAN EITHER OF US. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Sorry about the yelling sometimes when I type an A I hit the caps lock.


86 posted on 06/28/2009 11:38:31 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: Jim from C-Town

I do the same with the caps.

Yes, Roberts would know.

He did swear him in. The first was on a Bible that caused the fumble. The second was more private and didn’t require the Bible. Maybe 0 only shows allegiance to the koran.

My issues is still the qualifications of Jindal per the Constitution. Maybe an email to Roberts will help. lol.


87 posted on 06/28/2009 11:52:44 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: VicVega
Give it a try, who knows he may actually respond. I doubt it, but he might.
88 posted on 06/29/2009 12:00:33 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: Jim from C-Town

I’ll let you know if I get a solid answer on it.

Thanks, have a good one.


89 posted on 06/29/2009 12:02:52 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: MaxCUA
I really like Palin, and voted for McCain because of her. She will make a strong run in 2012. Romney will probably try again, but the person who has a decent shot of snagging that nomination is Huckabee.

I did not vote for him, (if people search, they'll see that I was brutal on Huckabee) and blame him for McCain, but this TV gig ain't just for sh!ts and giggles. If anything, Huckabee will prevent Romney again from winning.

90 posted on 06/29/2009 12:29:36 AM PDT by GOPyouth (Obama's against running GM, except when he's not.)
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To: jz638
My fellow Kansans don't do math. How the hell else would Kathleen Sebelius (Democrat) get elected Kansas Governor?
91 posted on 06/29/2009 1:02:31 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: jz638

We now have lots of democrats voting lately, so it is very easy to have ballot box stuffing.


92 posted on 06/29/2009 1:04:56 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: mrsixpack36

I would like to see (and would actively support) a PALIN/BOLTON ticket.


93 posted on 06/29/2009 2:25:53 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9
I am not sure Bolton would want to play 2nd fiddle to Palin with his experience. Maybe reverse the ticket?
94 posted on 06/29/2009 4:07:03 AM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: 1rudeboy

Huckabee Wins? Huck won’t be running in 2012, I think he’ll be around 350#’s and his 15 minutes of fame ended last fall. His FOX show is little more than ShamWow.


95 posted on 06/29/2009 4:09:16 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: VicVega
My understanding is at least one parent must be a US natural citizen.

True, if you are born outside the US!

96 posted on 06/29/2009 4:26:21 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: ChrisInAR

“My problem w/ Rep. Paul is his age. I think he will be in his mid-70s in 2012, so I wish we could find a much younger real conservative w/ the respect for the Constitution that he has.”

We’ve already found that person. Her name is Sarah Palin.


97 posted on 06/29/2009 7:12:17 AM PDT by CharterOakie (It's Sarah's if she wants it. 1 John 4:4)
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To: CharterOakie
I like Palin somewhat. I don't know if she is as dedicated to following the Original Intent of the Framers that Rep. Paul is, so that's why I haven't supported her 100% just yet. She did, however, compliment Rep. Paul & say that she respected him quite a lot, tho I can't remember her exact words.
98 posted on 06/29/2009 7:19:14 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ChrisInAR

If one studies how Palin has governed in AK, one finds a meticulous adherence to and understanding of the AK constitution. She knows it in detail, including the framers’ intent.

True, that constitution in only a few decades old. However, her faithfulness to the letter and intent of the AK constitution leads me to conclude with high confidence that she would preside over the U.S. with the same attention to, respect for, and meticulous adherence to the U.S. Constitution, based on a very conservative understanding of the Framers’ intent.

My recollection is that Kaylene Johnson’s biography “Sarah” provides good insight. I also recall hearing SP in her own words on this topic in one or another radio interview (perhaps w/ Scaife newspaper in Pittsburgh) from well before her VP selection. Probably still available on the internet somewhere.

She’s the real deal.


99 posted on 06/29/2009 10:49:17 AM PDT by CharterOakie (It's Sarah's if she wants it. 1 John 4:4)
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To: VocalObserver
FLASHBACK:

FRee Republic Member Opinion
Thompson 66.8% 1,658 - WINNER
Romney 12.7% 315

Post Election Rasmussen poll - GOP voters:
Palin -- 64% - WINNER
Huckabee -- 12%
Romney -- 11%



100 posted on 06/29/2009 4:20:34 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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