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Obama Committing Fraud and Treason: Multiple Grand Juries (Part I)
PRAVDA ^ | 7.5.09 | Neil Turner

Posted on 07/05/2009 2:49:50 PM PDT by libh8er

What everyone knows:

Most of America knows (beyond any reasonable doubt) that Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Hussein Obama) is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President of the United States (POTUS) and Commander in Chief (CinC) (per Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution of the U.S.).

Most of America also knows (beyond any reasonable doubt) that the members of Congress (all 535 of them), the Federal Courts, the Supreme Court, and ALL the Media (including FNC) are either ‘in the tank for’ or ‘paid off or intimidated by’ the illegitimate, criminal and Treasonous presumed President and Commander in Chief, Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Hussein Obama) and his coterie of thugs.

Origins, history, and applicability of the citizen’s Grand Jury:

The 5th Amendment of our U.S. Constitution provides that: … ‘No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury.’ It doesn’t say ‘Federal’ Grand Jury, a ‘Grand Jury called and impaneled by a Judge, Special Prosecutor, or District Attorney’, nor does it say a ‘Government impaneled’ Grand Jury.

The concept of a Citizen’s Grand Jury dates all the way back to the Magna Carta in 1215, and was included by the founders in our Constitution and Bill of Rights as a means for the people to reign-in an elected government run amok. It goes without saying that when a government is committing criminal and un-Constitutional acts, it can hardly be relied upon to bring charges and indictments against itself. Justice Antonin Scalia, in a 1992 ruling stated:

"Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, … the grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right.."

"In fact, the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people."

Thus is the situation that we Americans find ourselves in now – the proverbial ‘fox’ is in charge of the ‘henhouse’, and it is devouring the rooster, the hens, the chickens, and their eggs – on a daily basis!

The Citizen’s Grand Jury was a common feature of early American jurisprudence, but fell into disuse about 100 years ago, as the Government passed more and more un-Constitutional laws and acts. In the mid 1940’s, some devious lawyers and judges felt they should try to bury the concept and any possibility of a Citizen’s (or People’s) watchdog group looking over their nefarious shoulders any longer, so they wrote into their system of Federal Rules of Criminal Procedures the following:

(Common Law Grand Jury) ‘… presentments as a method of instituting prosecutions are obsolete, at least as concerns the Federal Courts.’

The trouble is, you cannot change the U.S. Constitution by merely writing a rule! It must be by Amendment, a time-consuming, laborious and people-enlightening process, requiring ratification of the change, spelled out in detail, and the reasons therefore, by ¾ of the States (38 of the current 50 states at this time). Obsolete indeed!

NOTE: Typically, courts and the judiciary issue ‘Indictments’, while Citizen’s Grand Juries issue ‘Presentments’, which, when formally presented to those sworn to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution, they must, by law, then issue an Indictment, and failure to do so makes them guilty of misprision of treason (the concealment of a treason or felony and failure to report it to the prosecuting authorities, by a person who has not committed it). As a result of this act of ‘misprision’, they could then be indicted themselves by future Citizen’s Grand Juries convened for just this purpose, much like the entire 535 members of Congress could be indicted for certifying the electoral votes for a known Constitutionally ineligible candidate for the presidency.

Early in 2009, a brilliant Constitutional lawyer, Leo Donofrio, wrote a detailed dissertation on the renewed use and viability of the Citizens’ Grand Jury, especially in light of the dumbing-down of the American populace, and their adulation of a mesmerizing, opaque, and criminal Imposter usurping the Presidency (and Commander in Chief-ship) of the United States. By pulling off the greatest hoax in the 230+ years since the founding of our Country, Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama) puts Ponzi and Madoff to shame.

First Citizen’s Grand Juryof the 21st century

Oddly enough, before the on-again, off-again Leo Donofrio could convince his readers that the Citizen’s Grand Jury wouldn’t apply in the case of ousting this particular usurper/imposter, a number of motivated patriotic Americans had already seized upon the concept, and the 21st Century Citizen’s Grand Jury was born!

On March 28th, 2009, Mr. Carl Swensson convened a panel of 25 sworn jurors in Stockbridge, GA, saying, ‘I’m no lawyer, and I’m not exactly sure what I’m doing, but I’m doing it anyway!’ Following an hour+ long presentation of documented evidence of fraud, forgery, corruption, money laundering, stolen SS numbers, perjury, and Treason by both Barack and Michelle Obama (and their many aliases) given by Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. (by phone, as she was in CA), the GA Citizen’s Grand Jury deliberated for an hour, and then came down with indictments/presentments (or a ‘True Bill’) against the presumed President of the United States, Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama.

Dr. Taitz’ entire presentation of evidence was videotaped (by myself), and can be seen in its entirety here for use by anyone convening a Citizen’s Grand Jury anywhere in the U.S. The entire 150 page ‘dossier’ on the criminal and un-constitutional acts of these two hoax-sters has been sent to all 50 States’ Attorneys General. One of these dossiers is available for all who wish to be informed here. No one can say, “but I didn’t know!”

To be continued...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; bho2009; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; constitution; donofrio; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; scalia; scotus; swensson; taitz
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1 posted on 07/05/2009 2:49:50 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

This article needs more “quotation marks”.


2 posted on 07/05/2009 2:52:19 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: libh8er; Jim Robinson; LucyT; autumnraine; The Sons of Liberty; Shady Ray; editor-surveyor; ...
You won't want to miss this one ... PING))))))
3 posted on 07/05/2009 2:54:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: libh8er
The 5th Amendment of our U.S. Constitution provides that: … ‘No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury.’ It doesn’t say ‘Federal’ Grand Jury, a ‘Grand Jury called and impaneled by a Judge, Special Prosecutor, or District Attorney’, nor does it say a ‘Government impaneled’ Grand Jury.

Does this mean that all the actors that have been indicted by Jack McCoy on Law & Order are actually under indictment?

After all, the Constitution does not specify that a Grand Jury must be impaneled by a real district attorney?

And how about President Bush, VP Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld who were all indicted by these so called "People's Grand Juries?"

Are they really under indictment?

4 posted on 07/05/2009 3:01:18 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: libh8er
"Rooted in long centuries of Anglo-American history, … the grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right.."

Hmmmmm -- perhaps the citizen branch of government

5 posted on 07/05/2009 3:04:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: MHGinTN; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

What everyone knows:

Most of America knows, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama,

is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President of the United States (POTUS) and Commander in Chief (CinC)

per Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution of the U.S.

Most of America also knows, beyond any reasonable doubt, that all 535 members of Congress,

the Federal Courts, the Supreme Court, and ALL the Media (including FNC)

are either in the tank for - or paid off - or intimidated by ... “

... Thanks, MHGinTN.


6 posted on 07/05/2009 3:15:32 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: GBA

Pravda is better than the NY Times ping to self


7 posted on 07/05/2009 3:16:52 PM PDT by GBA
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To: LucyT; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
I thought that I'd give you a taste of what I've been writing today:

We live in the Digital Age of communication and the virtual world of the Internet that has not only changed the way we send and receive information, but also how we interpret that information. Our interpretation of information on the Internet is heavily influenced by the trust we place in the sender of that information. We have seen instances where the exact, same information that has been sent by two different sources has produced entirely different responses that range from full agreement to total disbelief.


The Internet is primarily a visual medium and its visual imagery tends to evoke more polarizing responses than auditory ones.


The Internet permits hundreds of millions of people to view the same images, and to interpret them in the same way as they were intended to be. The deciding factor, however, in how images are perceived is contingent on the context in which they appear. The people who design the visuals we see, whether it’s on the Internet, on TV, or in print, pay particular attention to structuring the context in ways that convey their own interpretation. The extent to which the public will accept or reject another person’s interpretation depends on the amount of trust that viewer places on its source.


For a great many people, any media that bears the name of Barack Obama, that also bears testimony to his legitimacy as President, will be treated as the unadulterated truth, no questions asked. Barack Obama has a special personal image that he and the media go to great lengths to preserve. Obama engenders the kind of following that a rock star would envy, and being ranked as the top celebrity in America only confirms this status. Part and parcel to that popularity, in the minds of his followers, is the belief that Obama’s biographical narrative is totally true. That is why, whenever that biography is challenged, his followers take it as a personal affront to them.


Nowhere is this phenomenon more apparent than in the digital image purported to be a copy of Barack Obama’s original birth certificate. His followers are incensed that their leader’s legitimacy is being questioned. Conversely, they see no disconnect nor hypocrisy in delegitimizing John McCain in regards to his stated birthplace, his activities as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, his patriotism, his voting record, and most egregious of all, discriminating against him on the basis of his age. Yet, this is a typical characteristic of Obama’s followers in that they can maintain a double standard while simultaneously denying that one exists.


Yet, the cold, hard facts remain that Barack Hussein Obama has hidden from public scrutiny any concrete proof that would validate both his life’s narrative and more importantly, his Constitutional eligibility to serve as President of the United States.

Instead of spending $12 to obtain a certified paper copy of his birth record and presenting it to any government official, be it state or federal, Barack Obama has posted on his website, a fabricated image an abridged version of a birth certificate known as a “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB).

Instead of spending $12 to obtain a certified paper copy of his birth record and presenting it to any government official, be it state or federal, Barack Obama has illegally used $1 million in campaign contributions in legal fees to prevent his real, original birth certificate from ever being seen.

The fabricated image posted on Obama’s own website now become one of the most recognizable and infamous images in political history, and the historical storyline that goes along with this iconic symbol of secrecy is equally as compelling. It’s as if a President declared war, but never expected to fight one.


Yet, for the past year, the battles continue in a war of words and legal wrangling between Obama, his legal team, and his plausibly deniable shills at Factcheck, and We the People, the citizens of the United States, who literally live and die by the Constitution, who wanted nothing more than for both candidates who ran for President to be equally forthcoming when their Constitutional status was in doubt.

I doubt if anyone reading this document would allow an unknown person into his or her home after refusing to provide a legal form of identification. In essence, we allowed an unknown person to occupy the office of President who has also refused to identify himself.

Just as might be the case when you let an unknown stranger into your home and then find all of your possessions stolen, so, too, have Americans let an unknown stranger into their governmental home, and are only now learning how much of our money and freedoms have been stolen.

8 posted on 07/05/2009 3:29:45 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: libh8er

So, the conclusion is that Justice Scalia is the root of this endeavor.

A question arises, who is able to bring a suit when the justice department refuses to bring an indictment and bring the userper to trial?

I think the military will ultimately be forced to get involved. There must be a revolution


9 posted on 07/05/2009 3:40:19 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: libh8er
People can sing up to be on a Grand Jury at www.americangrandjury.org
10 posted on 07/05/2009 3:42:36 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: libh8er

sing=sign


11 posted on 07/05/2009 3:43:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: bert
A question arises, who is able to bring a suit when the justice department refuses to bring an indictment and bring the userper to trial?

The Citizen Grand jury makes the decision to indict, not the judicial system.
12 posted on 07/05/2009 3:49:47 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: MHGinTN
Most of America also knows (beyond any reasonable doubt) that the members of Congress (all 535 of them), the Federal Courts, the Supreme Court, and ALL the Media (including FNC) are either ‘in the tank for’ or ‘paid off or intimidated by’ the illegitimate, ....

Wow. Pravda nails the U.S. MSM.
13 posted on 07/05/2009 3:50:49 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: MHGinTN

Intriguing! We the People WILL be heard!


14 posted on 07/05/2009 3:56:03 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: MHGinTN

Btt


15 posted on 07/05/2009 3:58:52 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: real_patriotic_american

We the people will be ignored ... open your eyes.


16 posted on 07/05/2009 3:59:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Man50D

Ok, when justice refuses the indictment


17 posted on 07/05/2009 4:00:17 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: STARWISE

ping


18 posted on 07/05/2009 4:10:36 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: libh8er

This being run by the Russian propaganda paper at the very time Barry is visiting Russia. Excellent.

Now I wonder if the KGB has infiltrated the Hawaiian birth certificate archives and might release the real document soon.

BWahahahahahaha.


19 posted on 07/05/2009 4:12:14 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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To: Polarik

Bookmark bump.

Glad you’re here.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 4:17:23 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 07/05/2009 4:19:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: lucias_clay

The HI aerchives are too hot to get into. The Canadian and Indonesian ont he other hand are probably already on record at KGB and Moosad.


22 posted on 07/05/2009 4:21:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Man50D

Thanks for that link. Wouldn’t that just be phenomenal if we could use this method to clean up gov’t. Not even just gov’t - the possibilities are endless!!!


23 posted on 07/05/2009 4:45:13 PM PDT by Twotone
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~~Russia putting on more pressure, just before 0 meets with Putie ........ PING!


24 posted on 07/05/2009 4:46:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: libh8er

The treason these criminals have done in life,
will echo in Eternity!


25 posted on 07/05/2009 4:48:52 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Polarik
Brilliant as usual Polarik. And if you look closely at almost everything Zero does whether it's his take on Iran,Israel,the coup in Central America,pushing through bills without letting anyone red them etc. etc. its based on the same premise:HE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT WITH LITTLE IF ANY RESISTANCE.

My guess is its primarily Axelrod inspired as he is and has been always a lot more than an advisor but possibly a defacto potus.

Sad thing is that he(zero) has been getting away with a lot. Most anything he wants be it legal or illegal. What President in history would support a group like acorn,this guy is manic,crazy and a total statist left wing ideologue and must be stopped before he totally destroys the country.

26 posted on 07/05/2009 5:21:52 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Polarik

Dr. Polarik, your post is extremely well stated and absolutely correct Thank you for your constant defense of our country! I pray that it bears fruit very soon.


27 posted on 07/05/2009 5:43:12 PM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: lucias_clay

“Radio Free America”

Who’d’ve thunk it?


28 posted on 07/05/2009 6:24:12 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (If John Kerry is the benchmark for patriotism I'll be a proud traitor.)
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To: Polarik

I was so impressed with your essay, I posted on my blog. I’ll take it down if you don’t want it ‘out there’.


29 posted on 07/05/2009 6:24:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Polarik
"The Internet is primarily a visual medium and its visual imagery tends to evoke more polarizing responses than auditory ones."

Partly because so few are able to read well, I suspect. - Government schooling is a failure.

30 posted on 07/05/2009 6:42:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Polarik

The MSM told everyone what a wonderful President he would be.

Because they did as they were told, they never did any research. If they had, they would’ve seen that he’s a socialist....or maybe they already know and don’t care.


31 posted on 07/05/2009 7:19:32 PM PDT by azishot (Please join the NRA.)
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To: LucyT

Been thinking about your private email to all on your ping list and it still bothers me.I never post emails.Did you say your were sorry for what you said about me and my husband on the forum.?We will be married 50 years in Feb.2010.Did you say you were sorry on the forum?


32 posted on 07/05/2009 7:56:13 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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LucyT,I posted on http://www.libertypost.org/ that what was said was a lie.Did you do that?.


33 posted on 07/05/2009 8:19:03 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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I also sent Jim your threats about suing.LucyT I saw what you sent in private email.
34 posted on 07/05/2009 8:32:40 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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Oh, my goodness, fatima. What is wrong with you. I’ve apologized twice for posting, (many months ago) a comment from another forum, written by someone else.

How many apologies do you require before you forget something, or are you one of those hateful, despicable, whiny, sniveling people who carry a grudge forever?

The fact YOU keep bringing it up must mean the comment written on the other forum is true.

For all anyone on FR knows, YOU may have written the comment yourself.

Who else knows the details of your life. Why would anyone post anything about you; it is doubtful anyone, other than you, cares.

Apparently, the author of the comment(s) was quite familiar with you and your husband or they wouldn’t have written whatever it was that was written.

I’ve forgotten, ... and I don’t care about YOU or the comment.

Stop harassing me, and do NOT post to me again.

BTW, there are laws against cyber-stalking.


35 posted on 07/05/2009 8:39:31 PM PDT by LucyT
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I would say your are without honor.You told everyone on your ping list I left my husband and my children and moved in with a freeper many miles away.You also said that you read it on libertypost.I research for 1 year and never read where anyone said Fatima left her husband.So I posted on libertypost that I never left my husband and that was a lie.Which brings us to present.My husband and I will be married 50 years in Feb.2010.LucyT why did you not back me up at libertypost and why threaten people in personal email with your email list.


36 posted on 07/05/2009 8:56:48 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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:)LucyT Listen to me.I love my husband and we will be married 50 years in Feb.2010.I expect a public apology now.
37 posted on 07/05/2009 9:07:01 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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To: LucyT

Who was the author of the comment(s) ?


38 posted on 07/05/2009 9:25:02 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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Fatima, your comment at #32 had absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread. Then, you went on and posted about four more messages that continued in the same rambling and almost incoherent vein.

Stick to the subject or don’t post at all. We are not amused.


39 posted on 07/05/2009 9:55:43 PM PDT by Iowan
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:)LucyT Listen to me.I love my husband and we will be married 50 years in Feb.2010.I expect a public apology now.

Fatima, listen to me...I'm your husband and I apologise to you for being married to you for 50 years. Now can we get on with our regular programming?

40 posted on 07/05/2009 10:10:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Iowan

:)


41 posted on 07/05/2009 10:15:05 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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To: Iowan

Been thinking about we are not “We are not amused.” Who the hell is we.


43 posted on 07/05/2009 10:24:38 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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Fatima....congratulations on being married 50 years.

The topic of this thread is very important to us and it’s not productive to muck it up with some trivial nonsense.

LucyT said she was sorry for something that happened months ago. Be a big girl and let it go.


44 posted on 07/05/2009 10:29:20 PM PDT by azishot (Please join the NRA.)
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First of all, fatima, I find your language offensive.

Or, is this the husband?

“We” = Me, myself and I

;-)


45 posted on 07/05/2009 10:36:20 PM PDT by Iowan
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To: LucyT; Jim Robinson

Sue me.


46 posted on 07/05/2009 10:42:29 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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To: azishot

Bug off.


47 posted on 07/05/2009 10:54:43 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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To: Iowan

Get lost.


48 posted on 07/05/2009 10:56:03 PM PDT by fatima (Free hugs today :).)
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To: azishot

I’m sure that they didn’t care if they knew.


49 posted on 07/06/2009 7:03:59 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Partly because so few are able to read well, I suspect

Or write well. Seems like the texting phenomenon masks the the dysgraphia of the Left.

50 posted on 07/06/2009 7:10:01 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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