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Obama Birth Announcements Smell - Fishy Microfiche?
Crazy Leo Oshkosh ^ | 7/23/2009 | Crazy Leo Oshkosh

Posted on 07/23/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh

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1 posted on 07/23/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh
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To: LeoOshkosh

I’m not seeing it


2 posted on 07/23/2009 9:51:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: LeoOshkosh

bit of a stretch don’t you think?


3 posted on 07/23/2009 9:52:14 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: LeoOshkosh

Never mind, I see what you are saying now. The jump in Richard’s name seems to be on that crease in the paper.


4 posted on 07/23/2009 9:52:59 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: LeoOshkosh

If people want a collection of news articles about the Obama birth certificate and the only news outlet to *consistently* post articles about this — go to WorldNetDaily, as they’re an excellent resource, all in one place — for a major news site.

You might reference the New York Times, or the Los Angeles Times, or the Washington Post, or even NBC or CBS or ABC or CNN — but why reference the MSM, when there is WorldNetDaily?

WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/


5 posted on 07/23/2009 9:53:32 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: NMEwithin

It’s now getting ridiculous. I fear this whole issue is some sort of trap.


6 posted on 07/23/2009 9:53:51 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: LeoOshkosh

Proof positive. I think you should devote even more time to this.


7 posted on 07/23/2009 9:53:51 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Star Traveler

are you going to start paying for your wnd ads?


8 posted on 07/23/2009 9:54:16 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: LeoOshkosh

I’ve seen a couple guys do this before and it may be true but I don’t understand what I’m susposed to be looking at or why its important.

what has been established is that someone lived at the residence named. further, for many years many publications listed obama’s birth hospital elsewhere.

only after people started to dig into this a month or so ago did a lot of publications retroactively make the change to reflect the new address. the hospitals themselves will say nothing.


9 posted on 07/23/2009 9:54:47 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: LeoOshkosh

There were no computers in 1961. Pages were manually created on a Linotype machine. While it did a very good job, there were variations from line to line and word to word.

It would be much more interesting if all the letters were perfectly typeset.


10 posted on 07/23/2009 9:54:50 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: LeoOshkosh

I don’t see it...but the dotted line above the Obama announcement indicates there could have been a little cutting and pasting going on.


11 posted on 07/23/2009 9:55:08 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Always Right
I don’t see it...but the dotted line above the Obama announcement indicates there could have been a little cutting and pasting going on.

That appears to be the cut off of the line above it where Leo pasted in the other BO name from the other announcement.

12 posted on 07/23/2009 9:55:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: LeoOshkosh

What do I think? I think Obama should just cough up his long form BC and be done with this.


13 posted on 07/23/2009 9:56:10 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: MediaMole

You are missing the point. I’m not suggesting that the “doctoring” happened in 1961. Hell, it could have happened in 2003. Where did these copies come from? microfiche? or did someone actually have a paper?


14 posted on 07/23/2009 9:56:43 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: Perdogg; All

That is my thinking too.. It is a trap..


15 posted on 07/23/2009 9:58:59 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: LeoOshkosh

No, WorldNetDaily pays for those billboards, across the U.S. — I don’t... LOL...

You know..., the billboards that say “Where is the Birth Certificate?”... :-)


16 posted on 07/23/2009 9:59:24 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: LeoOshkosh

Pimp my blog. I can see how you got your nickname.


17 posted on 07/23/2009 10:00:43 AM PDT by stormer
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To: KevinDavis

Well, if it is a trap, they sure are risking a lot by waiting so long. Hell, healthcare might not pass the house, cap and trade won’t pass the senate. And they are trying to trap us? doesn’t make sense.


18 posted on 07/23/2009 10:01:25 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: Perdogg

You said — I fear this whole issue is some sort of trap.

I have said elsewhere that I’m detecting a “change in strategy” and that the leftists are actually co-opting this issue for themselves and finding it useful to derail conservatives. I’ve noticed this just recently.

This is what I said in another post...


Yes, it does appear to be a change in strategy and I noted that it was a “change” elsewhere. It seems to be a “developing strategy” actually. You know how some things work... you gradually come upon them or you stumble upon them. I think it may be that way with this, more recently.

I wrote the following elsewhere..., in a thread in which an article was trying to “tag” someone with this label of being a birther, while they were actually trying to distance themselves from it. It was like the article was “using” the birther designation to sidetrack the real issues that were being spoken about, by this conservative.

So, the comment I said elsewhere...

The leftists don’t want the issue to go away. It’s too useful to them. I posted the following in another thread about what someone said is “panic” setting in. What I see, instead, is a “strategy” developing by the leftists...

Well, here’s how it would work..., if you’re a conservative and you have ever said anything about the birth certificate issue, those leftists are going to know about it. And then, let’s say you’re giving some reasoned points on some legislation being pushed by Obama...

If it starts sounding too good or they can’t counter it — then it’s time to shift over to the “Obama birth certificate issue” — and the leftists will be the ones who raise it.

Then they try to paint that person *as* one of those who believes that Obama is not qualified to be President, because he has not shown a proper birth certificate.

At that point, they’ve just gotten you off your points in regards to Obama’s legislation that you’re trying to get out to the public and over into whether you think that Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The public sees and hears this, they forget all about the points you were making on the legislation that Obama is pushing and now the public thinks the whole issue was about whether Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The leftists love to get the conservatives over into that topic, because it means that this particular conservative can’t talk about the legislation that he originally wanted to talk about.

That’s how it works...

And that’s why the leftists are loving the Obama Birth Certificate Issue as a good issue for them to beat on and divert any conversation away from something else.

I think the birther issue is going to be useful to them...


As I said, this appears to be a “developing” strategy right now... (i.e, just recently)


19 posted on 07/23/2009 10:02:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: stormer

Hey, i tried to leave the url blank. It made me put something in there. no pimping here.


20 posted on 07/23/2009 10:02:27 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: LeoOshkosh

Looks fishy to me, too. I do know one thing....the Obamas, unless they were renting, never occupied/owned the home at the address in the birth announcement.


21 posted on 07/23/2009 10:02:43 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: LeoOshkosh

Typesetting?


22 posted on 07/23/2009 10:03:52 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: LeoOshkosh

Only 2 of 17 characters (including spaces) are misaligned in the Wright name (12%), while 0 out of 15 are misaligned in the Obama name. If as much as 12% of the characters are misaligned in the entire column of birth announcements, it is still statistically realistic for the Obama name to have no misalignments.

Sorry, there isn’t any clear indication of tampering in the evidence that you have provided.

The most you could expect to demonstrate with this effort is that there is tampering going on. But there is better evidence of that elsewhere (namely the lack of publicly available records on Obama’s past).


23 posted on 07/23/2009 10:22:15 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: ckilmer; LeoOshkosh

I have always thought it is easier for George Soros minions to tamper with old and obscure microfiche records of third rate Hawaiin news papers, than to get in and doctor the official state records... that said, I am not sure why they haven’t tampered with the state records unless it is being used to black mail the one... aka, el Presidente Obromo (translation from spanish President O’ Joke)


24 posted on 07/23/2009 10:23:59 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: LeoOshkosh

Wait... I think I see Michael Jackson’s face on the microfiche!


25 posted on 07/23/2009 10:26:02 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: AnglePark
"Wait... I think I see Michael Jackson’s face on the microfiche!"

His face is on there minus his nose....it fell off of the microfiche.
26 posted on 07/23/2009 10:28:37 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: LeoOshkosh

The left would love to keep this story going because it makes conservatives look like lunatics.


27 posted on 07/23/2009 10:28:48 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: LeoOshkosh

Some HI Freepers need to go visit this address and report / pics as to what is REALLY there.


28 posted on 07/23/2009 10:29:55 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: LeoOshkosh

These are obviously not from the same newspaper. In fact, it looks like the other names don’t overlap. You also have Aug & August and abbreviations.

My contention is that these are birth announcements from two different papers.


29 posted on 07/23/2009 10:30:20 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Star Traveler

The birth certificate is a smoke screen - it doesn’t matter. Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen. That admitted fact means Obama is not a “natural born citizen” according to the time-honored definition (someone born in the United States whose parents are both citizens of the United States).


30 posted on 07/23/2009 10:33:05 AM PDT by vrwc1
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To: nikos1121
"These are obviously not from the same newspaper. In fact, it looks like the other names don’t overlap. You also have Aug & August and abbreviations. My contention is that these are birth announcements from two different papers. "

That is my point. These are two different papers BUT the obama letters are perfectly aligned!!!!!
31 posted on 07/23/2009 10:35:54 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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Notice how the birth announcement says Mr. and Mrs. Barak Obama. We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born.
32 posted on 07/23/2009 10:43:16 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: LeoOshkosh

I don’t see how you can say that they are perfectly alligned.

One even has t”highway” spelled out completely, the other does not. One has “August” spelled out the other does not.

If anything, it supports the birth announcement.

I don’t think there is any confusino regarding the announcement. The issue is with the birth.


33 posted on 07/23/2009 11:10:17 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: LeoOshkosh

I don’t see how you can say that they are perfectly alligned.

One even has t”highway” spelled out completely, the other does not. One has “August” spelled out the other does not.

If anything, it supports the birth announcement.

I don’t think there is any confusino regarding the announcement. The issue is with the birth.


34 posted on 07/23/2009 11:10:30 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: AnglePark
As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents.
35 posted on 07/23/2009 11:10:53 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: mnehring
If you Google keyword search “UPI, Obama described his birth at Queens” this below will come up (I searched it at approximately 11:00 AM PST):

Nov 4, 2008 ... Obama described his birth at Queen’s Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity ... www.upi.com/Top...Obama...of.../UPI-33901225647000/ - Cached - Similar

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however, if you look at the newspaper item above -- it names a Kapi`olani Hospital.

Here's is the cached version of Obama's statement that he was born in the Kapi`olani Hospital. This cache is now on the active website This info is repeated in this brochure

The hospital has commented out the page that shows that obama say he was born in kapiolani hospital--and then within hours of the WND article about the obama statement. However, the source code shows the original fake.
36 posted on 07/23/2009 11:16:52 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: LeoOshkosh

How is microfiche forged? They’ve never posted any of the original papers so the birth announcements are only in digital format.

Who specializes in determining if microfiche has been tampered with? There must be some original new papers from this time at throughout HI. Not sure what the process is that experts use to determine if microfiche has been altered. Someone should investigate it. If found to be forged, that might be 4 documents which might have been forged, the Birth Certificate, Selective Service Doc and the Birth Announcements.


37 posted on 07/23/2009 11:17:37 AM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: ckilmer
As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents.

Quite likely, since I doubt they could have afforded the rent. However, they might well have rented the cottage in back of the house.


38 posted on 07/23/2009 11:56:17 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ckilmer
We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born.

Does his autobiography (which I haven't read) say something different?

39 posted on 07/23/2009 12:01:19 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Only dead fish go with the flow. -- Sarah Palin)
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To: cynwoody

there is no way that outhouse was built prior or even in 1961.


40 posted on 07/23/2009 12:02:51 PM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: illiac

“Looks fishy to me, too. I do know one thing....the Obamas, unless they were renting, never occupied/owned the home at the address in the birth announcement.”

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There’s a rental cottage behind the main house.


41 posted on 07/23/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: vrwc1
The birth certificate is a smoke screen - it doesn’t matter. Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen. That admitted fact means Obama is not a “natural born citizen” according to the time-honored definition (someone born in the United States whose parents are both citizens of the United States).

That's arguing the law instead of the facts. Two problems:

  1. It's gotten no traction whatsoever in the courts.
  2. It's an inconvenient position to have held in the event a dynamic young conservative candidate with a similar 'problem' should appear (e.g., parents were grad students recently arrived from India).

The NBC requirement was added to prevent influential foreign-born usurpers from carpet-bagging their way into the White House. E.g., the likes of Maximilian I of Mexico. Born and raised in the US is and ought to be perfectly fine.

42 posted on 07/23/2009 12:15:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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According to ObAMAfILE

How does July 22, 2008 sound as the birth announcement discovery date. The "birth announcement" is on microfilm/fiche from the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, Death" section read: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

The problem is, Orland Scott Lefforge owned and occupied the house at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway. The "Obamas" didn't live there.

In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement -- 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.

I have never seen any evidence that Obama Sr. and Anna Dunham ever lived as a married couple anywhere.

.................

According to WND

Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.

Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu to explore records regarding current residents of Kalanianaole Highway and to track down residents back to 1961.

Baro's investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement.

Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.

According to Baro's affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present.

Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway.
43 posted on 07/23/2009 12:15:57 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: LeoOshkosh
there is no way that outhouse was built prior or even in 1961.

One could make the same observation about the main house. Unfortunately, the folks who owned it in 1961 are no longer with us. A search of building permits might be interesting, however.

44 posted on 07/23/2009 12:17:37 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: vrwc1

You said — The birth certificate is a smoke screen - it doesn’t matter. Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen. That admitted fact means Obama is not a “natural born citizen” according to the time-honored definition (someone born in the United States whose parents are both citizens of the United States).

Okay, if I were to go down this track for discussion, I see some problems here, in a “real world sense”...

Let’s say that the real issue is, exactly as you say, that Obama’s father is a Kenyan. I assume that this fact is not in dispute and is common knowledge. At least it seems that way to me.

And let’s say that this means that Obama cannot be a natural born citizen, because of that.

NOW... here is the *problem*...

It’s dealing with facts that are not in dispute as to who his father is, thus, it’s extremely simple to get a candidate like that dismissed from an election on the basis of known and undisputed facts.

The problem is that since it has not happened in a real court, in real life — then there is something wrong with the logic, or it would have happened — that is — if it is so easy to understand and comprehend.

I would say that the fact that this has not gone *anywhere* in any court and not been successful in accomplishing anything — is all the evidence that one needs to show that it’s not valid — at least not with the courts, it’s not... LOL...

However, I do agree it seems to be “valid” in the minds of many who frequent the threads dealing with this issue. The problem is that they don’t count (as far as getting something “judicially done”) and the only ones that count (in that regard) are the courts and the judges who hear cases like this.


45 posted on 07/23/2009 12:18:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

good question. I don’t know what his autobiography says


46 posted on 07/23/2009 12:37:38 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
good question. I don’t know what his autobiography says

From Dreams from My Father, page 70:

“Well, I think it’ll be wonderful for you two to finally get to know each other,” she said from the kitchen. “He was probably a bit tough for a ten-year-old to take, but now that you’re older…”

I shrugged. “Who knows?”

She stuck her head out of the kitchen. “I hope you don’t feel resentful towards him.”

“Why would I?”

“I don’t know.” She returned to the living room and we sat there for a while, listening to the sounds of traffic below. The teapot whistled, and I stamped my envelope. Then, without any prompting, my mother began to retell an old story, in a distant voice, as if she were telling it to herself.

“It wasn’t your father’s fault that he left, you know. I divorced him. When the two of us got married, your grandparents weren’t happy with the idea. But they said okay-they probably couldn’t have stopped us anyway, and they eventually came around to the idea that it was the right thing to do. Then Barack’s father-your grandfather Hussein- wrote Gramps this long, nasty letter saying that he didn’t approve of the marriage. He didn’t want the Obama blood sullied by a white woman, he said. Well, you can imagine how Gramps reacted to that. And then there was a problem with your father’s first wife…he had told me they were separated, but it was a village wedding, so there was no legal document that could show a divorce….”

Her chin had begun to tremble, and she bit down on her lip, steadying herself. She said, “Your father wrote back, saying he was going ahead with it. Then you were born, and we agreed that the three of us would return to Kenya after he finished his studies. But your grandfather Hussein was still writing to your father, threatening to have his student visa revoked. By this time Toot had become hysterical-she had read about the Mau-Mau rebellion in Kenya a few years earlier, which the Western press really played up-and she was sure that I would have my head chopped off and you would be taken away.

“Even then, it might have worked out. When your father graduated from UH, he received two scholarship offers. One was to the New School, here in New York. The other one was to Harvard. The New School agreed to pay for everything-room and board, a job on campus, enough to support all three of us. Harvard just agreed to pay tuition. But Barack was such a stubborn bastard, he had to go to Harvard. How can I refuse the best education? he told me. That’s all he could think about, proving that he was the best….”

She sighed, running her hands through her hair. “We were so young, you know. I was younger than you are now. He was only a few years older than that. Later, when he came to visit us in Hawaii that time, he wanted us to come live with him. But I was still married to Lolo then, and his third wife had just left him, and I just didn’t think…”

She stopped and laughed to herself. “Did I ever tell you that he was late for our first date? He asked me to meet him in front of the university library at one. When I got there he hadn’t arrived, but I figured I’d give him a few minutes. It was a nice day, so I laid out on one of the benches, and before I knew it I had fallen asleep. Well, an hour later-an hour!-he shows up with a couple of his friends. I woke up and the three of them were standing over me, and I heard your father saying, serious as can be, ‘You see, gentlemen. I told you that she was a fine girl, and that she would wait for me.’ ”

Of course, that still doesn't say whether they were married at the time of BHO's birth. Only that they got married at some point. Also, I believe divorce paperwork has been found.

47 posted on 07/23/2009 1:31:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
supposedly ann and barrack sr were married in Hawaii (kaui or maui) on February 2, 1961.

this is supposed to be their divorce decree
http://www.plainsradio.com/obama1/IMAG002.JPG

http://www.plainsradio.com/obama1/IMAG003.JPG

http://www.plainsradio.com/obama1/IMAG004.JPG
http://www.plainsradio.com/obama1/IMAG005.JPG
http://www.plainsradio.com/obama1/IMAG009.JPG

48 posted on 07/23/2009 2:05:48 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: cynwoody
The NBC requirement was added to prevent influential foreign-born usurpers from carpet-bagging their way into the White House. E.g., the likes of Maximilian I of Mexico. Born and raised in the US is and ought to be perfectly fine.

I see, you're one of those "the Constitution is a living, breathing document" people, so the words "natural born citizen" don't really mean "natural born citizen". As you say: "Born and raised in the US is and ought to be perfectly fine."

Sorry, but I have no use for that kind of thinking. The plain meaning of words in the Constitution ought not to be misconstrued! If Obama doesn't meet the qualifications stated in the Constitution, it's not up to us to say "Oh, it's OK - he was born in the US so that's good enough." That is un-Constitutional, and a trap that conservatives should never fall into. If we don't insist on strict adherence to the plain meaning of "natural born citizen" then we give liberals the license to interpret every other part of the Constitution however they please.

49 posted on 07/23/2009 2:39:38 PM PDT by vrwc1
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To: rolling_stone
supposedly ann and barrack sr were married in Hawaii (kaui or maui) on February 2, 1961.

this is supposed to be their divorce decree

Well that settles that. Michelle is full of it (not the first, nor the most important, time).

There would be no reason to get divorced unless you were married. And no reason to falsify the date of the marriage, either.

50 posted on 07/23/2009 4:12:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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