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Obama Birth Announcements Smell - Fishy Microfiche?
Crazy Leo Oshkosh ^ | 7/23/2009 | Crazy Leo Oshkosh

Posted on 07/23/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by LeoOshkosh

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To: cynwoody

yeah and his mom fibbed to obama (or he did)as she left for washington in august 1961 and obama sr didnt leave hawaii till summer 1962 unlike what jr wrote in his book...ann obama was listed in 2 phone directories in 61-62 washington as Mrs...not mr and mrs....


51 posted on 07/23/2009 4:18:47 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: cynwoody

ok amend the constitution then...President & vp are the only offices requiring NBC..is that too much to ask in a Nation of 300million people to find a qualified NBC for President?


52 posted on 07/23/2009 4:20:51 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: ckilmer

I think its possible obama sr dumped ann at end of school year 1961(maybe he even went to Africa for the summer) and she might have taken a room/cabin with the UH professor and his wife who felt sorry for her? She moved to Washington 3 weeks after the birth (most likely without her husband).


53 posted on 07/23/2009 4:24:29 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone
ok amend the constitution then...President & vp are the only offices requiring NBC..is that too much to ask in a Nation of 300million people to find a qualified NBC for President?

The courts pretty much agree NBC == citizen from birth. Which would cover both Obama and McCain.

So, yes, it would seem another amendment is needed. To clear up what NBC means and also solve the anchor baby problem.

54 posted on 07/23/2009 6:17:03 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: LeoOshkosh

I think you’ve purposely ignored the partial lettering mistakenly left above the listing of the Obama’s on the right hand copy and the uneven spacing of the Obama entry added into the image on the left after scrubbing what was there before the counterfeiting.


55 posted on 07/23/2009 6:22:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: cynwoody

The young doctor and his wife who had twins in the same day time frame as Stanley is reported to have had Barry may have been living at the address then moved. The address may have been left in the microfiche and the name removed and replaced by the obama names. But you keep trying to sow that doubt you’re instructed to share with us at FR. It is amusing.


56 posted on 07/23/2009 6:32:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: LeoOshkosh

A perspective from a Korean website:

http://kalaniosullivan.com/BO/BOBackground.html

Oct-Nov 1960: Ann Dunham conceives Obama Jr. -- based on a full-term pregnancy. Obama weighed eight pounds, two ounces when he was born on August 4, 1961 (p. 22 of Dreams from My Father), so we can assume he went close to full term, or nine months. Nine months before Obama’s birth would be early November 1960, about three to four weeks before Ann Dunham’s 18th birthday on November 29, 1960.

This causes many to wonder about the circumstances because it seems out of character with what is known of her during her high school years in Mercer Island, WA. Ann Dunham was no raving beauty and during her high school years she did not go out on dates and had no boyfriend -- instead hanging out with her girlfriends. To be suddenly pregnant four months after her graduation is certainly out of character. That her choice would be a black man is also strange. Her early childhood is from segregationist Kansas -- followed by her middle school and high school years were on Mercer Island -- where the 1950 census counted about 5,000 people, almost all white. Regardless of Obama Sr's "charm," he certainly would not be the first choice for a boyfriend given her background in white communities. Remember this was 1960 when 22 states still banned interracial marriage and even in Washington State, a black-white relationship would cause people to walk across the street.

Dunham hadn't had a boyfriend in high school, according to Maxine Box, her best friend at the time. So Box and others were stunned when Dunham wrote them to say she'd married the University of Hawaii's first African student, a Kenyan named Barack Obama. She gave birth to Barack Obama Jr. in August 1961. "We could see Stanley, with her good grades and intelligence, going to college, but not marrying and having a baby right away," said Box, a retired teacher in Bellevue. "I can't think of anything she said or did that would lead to such a radical thing. At that time, you practically crossed the street if you saw a black man and a white woman. Black and white didn't go together at that time." (Source: Seattle Times.)

There is something very strange with this conception. After only four months away from the white environment of Mercer Island with no romantic experience, she has conceived a mulatto child.

57 posted on 07/23/2009 6:33:04 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: MHGinTN

Has anyone tried to get in touch with the twins? or anyone in that family?


58 posted on 07/23/2009 7:24:18 PM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: MHGinTN

How would it be determined if the birth announcements are forged docs? Who released them? Who discovered them at the library?

Why hasn’t anyone tried to find the original news papers? Wouldn’t that be a valuable newspaper if it showed that the digital birth announcement was forged? Is there a way to determine who had access to alter the microfiche?

They look like forged birth announcements which were placed 10 days after the home owners death. Hawaii is more like a 3rd World country with their lack of any paper trail for Obama.


59 posted on 07/23/2009 7:46:53 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: cynwoody; Star Traveler

Ok someone went to a lot of time and trouble to spell out the situation we are in, they left out the challenge as to the COLB, Draft card and the fact that Obama tends to lie. Here is their presentation including case law and common law etc. Its a long read but well worth it and competetently provides details and facts being debated, I suggest EVERYONE read it it, is posted on another thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2299538/posts


60 posted on 07/23/2009 8:33:24 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone

So what about the birth announcements on microfiche? Has anyone produced an original newspaper showing whether or not the birth announcements are forgeries?

How are microfiche forgeries discovered? Are there companies which specialize in uncovering electronic fraud in relation to tampering and changing microfiche? And how do you find original newspapers from that time?

Surely there must be some pack rats who saved those birth announcements and have the original who could verify if the birth announcements were actually printed in 1961. What other kids were born on the same day as Obama?


61 posted on 07/23/2009 9:43:21 PM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: Perdogg
It’s now getting ridiculous. I fear this whole issue is some sort of trap.

I began to suspect that about two or three months ago which is why I'm not commenting on this birth certificate issue anymore unless there's something highly suspicious to point out.

Is it really an accident this whole "birth certificate" issue was set in motion by a liberal Democrat, Hillary Clinton supporter by the name of Phil Berg?

This whole thing is starting to sound like set up by George Soros and Rahm Emmanuel in order discredit conservatives in the 2010 and 2012 elections.

This shouldn't be a surprise since it's coming from the Obama Administration. Communists did the exact same thing in order to defeat their political enemies. They would set up a fake group with a fake issue and make them act ridiculous in order to discredit the real group who opposed them. It's called "controlled opposition".

62 posted on 07/24/2009 8:36:47 AM PDT by America2012 (No Taxation By An Obamanation)
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To: cynwoody

She sighed, running her hands through her hair. “We were so young, you know. I was younger than you are now.

Can you determine how old barak was at the time?


63 posted on 07/24/2009 10:26:41 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
I would guess 20 or 21. It was after he had transferred from Occidental College to Columbia. Probably about to start his junior year at Columbia. From page 69:

It was in this humorless mood that my mother and sister found me when they came to visit during my first summer in New York.

“He’s so skinny,” Maya said to my mother.

“He only has two towels!” my mother shouted as she inspected the bathroom. “And three plates!” They both began to giggle.

They stayed with Sadik and me for a few nights, then moved to a condominium on Park Avenue that a friend of my mother’s had offered them while she was away. That summer I had found a job clearing a construction site on the Upper West Side, so my mother and sister spent most of their days exploring the city on their own. When we met for dinner, they would give me a detailed report of their adventures: eating strawberries and cream at the Plaza, taking the ferry to the Statue of Liberty, visiting the Cézannes at the Met. I would eat in silence until they were finished and then begin a long discourse on the problems of the city and the politics of the dispossessed. I scolded Maya for spending one evening watching TV instead of reading the novels I’d bought for her. I instructed my mother on the various ways that foreign donors and international development organizations like the one she was working for bred dependence in the Third World. When the two of them withdrew to the kitchen, I would overhear Maya complaining to my mother.

“Barry’s okay, isn’t he? I mean, I hope he doesn’t lose his cool and become one of those freaks you see on the streets around here.”

This was around the time he started asking friends to call him Barack instead of Barry.

64 posted on 07/24/2009 11:22:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: getontwitterfacebknow

“How is microfiche forged? They’ve never posted any of the original papers so the birth announcements are only in digital format.”

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Microfiche (sheet film) and microfilm (roll film) are actual photographs of the original documents. (WND reports that the document in the Honolulu library is microfilm.) In order to fake a 1961 microfiche or microfilm you would need to get a quantity of unexposed 1960’s microfilm stock (which the conspiracy presumbably keeps on hand for just this purpose), purloin the original and print it out, and re-photograph it with the alterations. For roll film this would involve the entire roll. Can’t have any tell-tale splices at the relevant frame. Then you replace the original with the altered copy. Since multiple copies exist all over the country you need to replace them all, lest an unaltered original expose your massive conspiracy. According to Beckwith, the conspiracy did all this in just ten days after the death of Orland Lefforge! If the conspiracy is this super-competent, you’d better just give up. You’re clearly outclassed. Either that, or the “forged microfilm” meme is just the nuttiest of the nutty.


65 posted on 07/24/2009 1:15:52 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: LeoOshkosh

I think you’re on to something .... with ‘Crazy’ in your name.

Put down the glue, and take a step back!


66 posted on 07/24/2009 1:47:11 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Redwood Bob
Have the original hard copy newspapers been examined to corroborate the electronic birth announcements? Do any of the other couples have a copy of the original newspaper as a remembrance for the births? Who went to the library and produced the copies of the microfilm? Was it someone from Obama's campaign?
67 posted on 07/25/2009 6:20:33 AM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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To: Redwood Bob
Have the original hard copy newspapers been examined to corroborate the electronic birth announcements? Do any of the other couples have a copy of the original newspaper as a remembrance for the births? Who went to the library and produced the copies of the microfilm? Was it someone from Obama's campaign?
68 posted on 07/25/2009 6:20:36 AM PDT by getontwitterfacebknow
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