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Healthcare Bill Support Declining, due to Palin Effect?
Conservatives4Palin ^ | TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, 2009 | Hal

Posted on 08/11/2009 10:59:52 AM PDT by curth

This poll was taken after Governor Palin released her Facebook statement criticizing President Obama's healthcare bill.

Rasmussen Reports:

Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That’s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that opposition to the plan has increased to 53%, up nine points since late June. More significantly, 44% of voters strongly oppose the health care reform effort versus 26% who strongly favor it. Intensity has been stronger among opponents of the plan since the debate began.

Sixty-seven percent (67%) of those under 30 favor the plan while 56% of those over 65 are opposed. Among senior citizens, 46% are strongly opposed. Predictably, 69% of Democrats favor the plan, while 79% of Republicans oppose it. Yet while 44% of Democratic voters strongly favor the reform effort, 70% of GOP voters are strongly opposed to it.

Most notable, however, is the opposition among voters not affiliated with either party. Sixty-two percent (62%) of unaffiliated voters oppose the health care plan, and 51% are strongly opposed. This marks an uptick in strong opposition among both Republicans and unaffiliateds, while the number of strongly supportive Democrats is unchanged.

Read the entire Rasmussen Poll summary here.http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/august_2009/support_for_congressional_health_care_reform_falls_to_new_low

Furthermore, this is from a poll conducted on AOL (results as of this morning) http://news.aol.com/article/palin-calls-obama-health-plan-evil/608570?icid=main%7Cmain%7Cdl1%7Clink4%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fpalin-calls-obama-health-plan-evil%2F608570

(Excerpt) Read more at conservatives4palin.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; healthcare; obamacare; palin; poll; rasmussen; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 08/11/2009 10:59:53 AM PDT by curth
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To: curth

Its not due to Palin, but she is only honestly echoing what regular Americans are saying.


2 posted on 08/11/2009 11:03:52 AM PDT by frogjerk (tagline pulled for verification)
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To: curth

Due to the fact it’s crap


3 posted on 08/11/2009 11:05:59 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: curth

The spin on this is breathtaking.


4 posted on 08/11/2009 11:07:42 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: frogjerk

Have Palin’s objections gotten out on any of the MSM or even Fox? If so, that could be a small influence.


5 posted on 08/11/2009 11:08:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: curth
Sixty-seven percent (67%) of those under 30 favor the plan while 56% of those over 65 are opposed.

Somebody needs to explain to these young pups that they are going to be required to buy the same insurance, at the same rates, as their 87-year-old Granny. This is a bad deal for everybody, but a terrible deal for young folks.

They need to stop chanting "O-Ba-Ma... O-Ba-Ma..." for long enough to realize that they will be paying tremendous amounts of money for services they never use.

6 posted on 08/11/2009 11:08:25 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Because, deep in my heart, I do believe, that we shall overcome some day.)
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To: MaggieCarta

Giving Sarah more credit than she might be due, or what?


7 posted on 08/11/2009 11:09:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: bondjamesbond
Somebody needs to explain to these young pups that they are going to be required to buy the same insurance, at the same rates, as their 87-year-old Granny. This is a bad deal for everybody, but a terrible deal for young folks.

Huh. I know it sucks that the uninsured-by-choice will be "taxed" to help pay for Granny, but I wasn't aware that there would not be any age tiers. After all isn't one of the objections being voiced is that it would undercut private policies? And it can't reasonably do that without age tiers.

8 posted on 08/11/2009 11:12:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: curth

Utterly pathetic.....


9 posted on 08/11/2009 11:12:31 AM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: curth

Please don’t start claiming Palin created the internet.


10 posted on 08/11/2009 11:12:55 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: curth
That's a stretch of logic to conclude that but she certainly got peoples attention.
11 posted on 08/11/2009 11:13:18 AM PDT by McGruff (We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration - Hillary Clinton)
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To: MaggieCarta

She still hasn’t hired you!? Darned!


12 posted on 08/11/2009 11:13:18 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: curth

Palin might be having a small effect, but it’s mainly due to the fact that people are actually reading the bill and seeing what’s in it.


13 posted on 08/11/2009 11:13:45 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1938 all over again - the democrats are the new NAZIs and conservatives are the new Jews.)
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To: curth

I am Sarah’s biggest supporter, even I don’t believe that because of her statement, Obama’s DeathCare approvals have gone down. People are just getting a better understanding of what is going on and people are actually READING THE BILL and seeing it for what it is


14 posted on 08/11/2009 11:16:41 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Bob J
Please don’t start claiming Palin created the internet

Thank God she quit her job so she could warn us about this. We'd be lost without her.

15 posted on 08/11/2009 11:18:45 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: SolidWood

Giggle. Still waiting.


16 posted on 08/11/2009 11:22:29 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Whether Palin had an impact or not is irrelevant. The point is if the fawning white guilt media REPORTS she has, guess what the contents of that authoritarian piece of crap gets shoved aside as Sarah becomes the headline. Alinsky tactic 12. We have to keepour eye on the ball and not let those who control the dissemination of information shift the focus away from this piece of crap. They think mentioning Sarah can play us or more importantly THEIR supporters who already have an anti-Palin bias. Don’t be folled, they’re running scared.


17 posted on 08/11/2009 11:23:51 AM PDT by easttennesseejohn
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Giving Sarah more credit than she might be due, or what?

Well...in a word...yes...

However, I will credit her PR people for their ingenuity on this one.

18 posted on 08/11/2009 11:25:23 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: curth

Sorry Sarahlians, you are but a small portion of the American electorate. The real reason is that there are still many Americans left, many of whom are political independents, who don’t want Socialism.


19 posted on 08/11/2009 11:25:23 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: easttennesseejohn

Yep, I think the fact that Obama even mentioned “Death Panels” shows that she is in his head. He took the bait


20 posted on 08/11/2009 11:27:48 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I am Sarah’s biggest supporter, even I don’t believe that because of her statement, Obama’s DeathCare approvals have gone down. People are just getting a better understanding of what is going on and people are actually READING THE BILL and seeing it for what it is

Thank you for saying this, SB.

21 posted on 08/11/2009 11:27:51 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: MaggieCarta

Don’t forget that AOL poll conducted over the last 3 days to the question Do you agree with Palin’s characterization of Obama’s health plan as “evil”? that 59% agree with Palin.

I think she was the catalyst for cutting through the BS on Obamacare and crystallizing viewpoints. IMHO, that is what leadership is all about.


22 posted on 08/11/2009 11:32:54 AM PDT by techno
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To: curth

Obama has to blame someone.

He cant blame George Bush, so who is next? Sarah Palin.


23 posted on 08/11/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: easttennesseejohn

I’m surprised I haven’t yet heard of a major MSM voice mocking “That quitter? What does she have to do with this?”


24 posted on 08/11/2009 11:39:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I am Sarah’s biggest supporter, even I don’t believe that because of her statement,

Thank you and I hope you understand why sometimes I call Sarah's sometimes overly enthusiastic supporters, "kool aid drinkers".

26 posted on 08/11/2009 12:30:58 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: techno
I think she was the catalyst for cutting through the BS on Obamacare and crystallizing viewpoints. IMHO, that is what leadership is all about.

I beg to differ, but am way too lazy to actually fact check the precise point when the "town halls" started heating up. I believe it was prior to Mrs. Palin's well received "Facebook" publication calling ObamaCare "downright evil". I wish she had made a different word choice--like calling the plan "Un-American," thereby preempting Pelosi and company from using that word against dissenters.

Anyway, after the Facebook entry, she turned around and called for "restraint." What effect are we measuring?

27 posted on 08/11/2009 12:48:50 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: curth
I think she is having a major effect.

The "death panel" remark was a stroke of genius. She clearly has Obama and the Dems rattled.

She is inside Obama's OODA loop.


28 posted on 08/11/2009 1:13:14 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Yep, I think the fact that Obama even mentioned “Death Panels” shows that she is in his head. He took the bait

That is exactly right. She has mastered the art of political ju jitsu.

The woman is amazing.

29 posted on 08/11/2009 1:20:47 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: MaggieCarta

No, she’s not responsible totally.

But why did Obama keep talking about “death panels” today if she hasn’t influenced the discussion? She is the only person to use the term death panel.

And between the “death panel” note and the “use restraint” note, you conveniently left out the 2 posts quoting more than a dozen sources, from WaPo to National Review to the Cato Institute, backing up her first statement.

So she is doing more than making hyperbolic statements; she is backing them up with sources - though the media and many readers are too lazy to look up her sources.


30 posted on 08/11/2009 1:35:17 PM PDT by hrh40
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To: curth

The sun came up today, and I’m sure it’s only because of Palin.


31 posted on 08/11/2009 2:15:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT (,)
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To: curth
If Palin is to punch through the "dumbed down" masses who fell for the "great orator's" promises of "change" accompanied by "goodies," then she must, like Ronald Reagan, have an in-depth and intimate of the Founders' principles and ideas of liberty versus tyranny.

Creator-endowed life and liberty are authentic ideas, which, when protected by a written "people's" constitution limiting the power of their government, become a reality for millions of oppressed people from all the world. Witness America for its first 200 years!

Allowing silver-tongued orators to supplant "the people" and their constitutional limits on coercive government power by offering promises of handouts for all is a counterfeit idea and has led to oppressive taxation, debt, and slavery of people wherever it has been allowed.

Reagan understood that the "beacon of liberty" relies on enduring principles, called by the Founders, "self-evident" truths. More importantly, he could articulate those ideas!

Palin can read, study, and understand them. The fact that she has Levin's "Tyranny and Liberty" is a start, but there's nothing like reading the voluminous writings of the Founders themselves (available online) for incorporating them into one's own vocabulary.

If she does that, all the Far Left proponents of the "counterfeit ideas" will not be able to stop her from having a positive impact on the future of America!

She must be able to delineate and clarify, as Reagan did, why "socialized" medicine, for instance, is in opposition to America's founding principles, explaining the perhaps "unintended consequences" of allowing any government in the world to have that much power over the lives and property of its citizens. There is liberty for individuals, and then there is tyranny over individuals.

32 posted on 08/11/2009 2:44:16 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: hrh40
No, she’s not responsible totally.

But why did Obama keep talking about “death panels” today if she hasn’t influenced the discussion? She is the only person to use the term death panel.

And between the “death panel” note and the “use restraint” note, you conveniently left out the 2 posts quoting more than a dozen sources, from WaPo to National Review to the Cato Institute, backing up her first statement.

So she is doing more than making hyperbolic statements; she is backing them up with sources - though the media and many readers are too lazy to look up her sources.

Even worse, I am too preoccupied to look at Mrs Palin's Facebook page. My apologies for missing the 2 posts to which you refer.

Call me hopelessly old-fashioned, but, quite frankly, I don't regard posts on Facebook as coming from someone even remotely Presidential. It reminds me of the other Pubbie poster-blogger, MeggieMac.

I prefer reading serious op-eds, published by established venues such as the Wall Street Journal or other "dinasour media" publications.

Sure, when reading some really well written works, I wonder whether the person credited with the article actually wrote it, or whether a staff person penned the piece. At that point, I consider how well the candidate articulates their ideas verbally.

I do not doubt that Mrs. Palin is actually writing her own stuff on Facebook. And, I remain unimpressed.

33 posted on 08/11/2009 5:11:02 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The sun came up today, and I’m sure it’s only because of Palin.

Giggle.

34 posted on 08/11/2009 5:12:41 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: loveliberty2
Reagan understood that the "beacon of liberty" relies on enduring principles, called by the Founders, "self-evident" truths." More importantly, he could articulate those ideas!

Yes. I really do miss what I think I remember of the Reagan Administration.

35 posted on 08/11/2009 5:16:43 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: curth

I like Palin, but she has nothing to do with this.


36 posted on 08/11/2009 5:16:54 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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