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Cameron's "Titanic" movie, shown on TNT, deletes "Jesus, Mary, Joseph" dialogue...
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Posted on 08/19/2009 12:51:29 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

So, on Saturday night, James Cameron's 1997 movie "TITANIC", with Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio, came on at 7 p.m. I own the original on DVD and have seen that version close to 40 or 50 times. My young son is obsessed with anything that has to do with Titanic, so we've seen it a lot, and I know all of the scenes and most of the dialogue.

As usual, when a movie is shown on TV, any foul language will be deleted, or replaced with other less offensive words. But in this version, I also noticed that when a young Irish woman in the 3rd class lounge yelled out "Jesus, Mary, Joseph" in one of the scenes, that the "Jesus" was mute -- but the "Mary" and "Joseph" could still be heard. Interesting, huh?

Since when does ANYONE find the word "Jesus" offensive enough to mute it out of a TNT movie dialogue?


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: catholic; hollywood; jesus; purge; religion; titanic; tnt
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To: Sloth

See #18.

I do agree with your explanation, but I do get the feeling that TNT just wanted altogether to remove anything to do with the name of Jesus.


21 posted on 08/19/2009 1:15:07 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Sloth

Interesting; thinking about it, am more likely to hear someone drop the F-bomb than hear the Lord’s name in vain. I’m with you on this one too.


22 posted on 08/19/2009 1:40:04 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
I own the original on DVD and have seen that version close to 40 or 50 times.

my condolences

23 posted on 08/19/2009 1:42:30 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

The Irish woman is presumably Catholic. I’ve never heard anyone but a Catholic use this phrase (as an exclamation of amazement or disbelief at something, much as the movie character does). Growing up Catholic it was something I heard frequently from the older family members. It was never seen as “profanity” — certainly not along the order of g.d. or anything like that, more of a “wow, what’ll they think of next” sort of thing.

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24 posted on 08/19/2009 1:42:33 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Perdogg

I can still hear my Irish grandpap proclaim ‘Jayz-us, Murry and Joooseef.’

Its just not the same w/o the heavy Brogue.

As to the editing...well maybe somebody at Turner ‘got religion.’ (I crack myself up sometimes).


25 posted on 08/19/2009 2:01:10 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win!" Mahatma Ghandi)
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To: American_Centurion
Frankly, I hadn't thought about it like that. Regardless of their motive, the outcome is the same, the name of the Lord is not blasphemed.
26 posted on 08/19/2009 2:01:46 PM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: svcw

You are so right. With a wonderful cast like they had how could it not be?


27 posted on 08/19/2009 2:18:28 PM PDT by tal hajus
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

That’s not so bad. I’ve seen several movies on TV that edited out all the profanity, but left in the G portion of GD when it was uttered.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 2:22:56 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Obadiah

This wasn’t casual dialogue. This was a woman praying.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 2:40:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: DouglasKC

This was a depiction of a person praying—not someone using God’s name casually.


30 posted on 08/19/2009 2:40:44 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: workerbee

No one in my family (Irish Catholic) ever said “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph” as an exclamation. It was, in fact, one of the specific prayers classed as “aspirations.” “My Jesus, Mercy,” “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,” “O, Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee,” etc.

I never heard the f-bomb until I was 14, when I first went to government school.


31 posted on 08/19/2009 2:49:48 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; Obadiah; DouglasKC

Actually, the Irish woman in question was reacting to something amazing that Rose (Kate Winslet) did with her feet while dancing.


32 posted on 08/19/2009 3:45:51 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
No offense intened; I wasn't trying to imply that all Catholics used the phrase. Just relaying my own experience. Hearing "J, M & J" wasn't so unusual and as I said, was never said in an "irreverant" manner, if that makes sense. Hearing g-d ... on that rare occasion, you knew someone was gonna get it. No way did I ever hear an f-bomb or equivalent.
33 posted on 08/19/2009 4:25:33 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Its just not the same w/o the heavy Brogue.

LOL, yes, from an Irish friend as well, come to think of it. She has used the phrase more than once.

34 posted on 08/19/2009 4:27:26 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
This was a depiction of a person praying—not someone using God’s name casually.

Even if it was it was the name of Christ being used as entertainment...it wasn't a real prayer. It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit.

35 posted on 08/19/2009 4:35:48 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit

Sounds like you are describing Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ!

36 posted on 08/19/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
It was a prayer used for entertainment purposes to garner profit Sounds like you are describing Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ!

Very applicable!

37 posted on 08/19/2009 5:30:35 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Praying is a human activity. A laudable and noble human activity. It is legitimate for a dramatic production to depict human activities, both good and evil.

Interestingly, Jim Caviezel has received letters from people who were shocked that he “swore” in some role or other. His response is the correct one: “It’s called ‘ACTING.’”


38 posted on 08/21/2009 12:12:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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