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The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie
canada freepress ^ | September 10, 2009 | JB Williams

Posted on 09/10/2009 8:48:46 AM PDT by opentalk

To be a bonafide conspiracy, two or more individuals must knowingly conspire, plot or plan an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious act. In politics or law, an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act, is a “conspiracy.” Not in theory, but in reality.

Such is the case today!

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; canidate; certificate; certifigate; conspiracytheory; dnc; election; eligibility; nomination; obama; pelosi; rico
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To: opentalk

FYI, canadafreepress.com must be excerpted. If a source must be excerpted, please don’t post the full content in the thread. This protects the site from copyright infringement issues.


2 posted on 09/10/2009 8:59:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; opentalk
A short quote:

"Please, allow me to connect the dots here…

• The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one.
• One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.
• The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of President is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama President."
This means:

THEY KNEW HE WAS INELIGIBLE FROM DAY ONE

They betrayed the constitution and deliberately lied to every voter.

3 posted on 09/10/2009 9:11:20 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 232 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; Fred Nerks; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...
ping

(and a welcome to opentalk)...

4 posted on 09/10/2009 9:13:34 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 232 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; STARWISE

can’t see if you pinged STARWISE


5 posted on 09/10/2009 9:16:54 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: null and void

Maybe they didn’t know and were just covering their bases, “just in case.”


6 posted on 09/10/2009 9:20:26 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: All
I can just imagine the hemming and hawing as this sort of issue was discussed at the highest levels:

"Uhhhh, you know how we always fill out that form about the constitutional eligibility of our candidate? Well ... uhhh ... what do you think would happen if we ... uhhh ... just skipped that part. I mean, you know ... would that be a problem?"

7 posted on 09/10/2009 9:21:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: null and void

nudging me for the past few days has been the question of the swearing in ceremony...what exactly happened there and is it of any moment other than an ominous bungling of protocol?


8 posted on 09/10/2009 9:23:01 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: null and void

I’ve been saying all along that we should go after Pelosi, Reid and anyone else who vouched for his eligibility.

Nancy ain’t going to prison for anybody.


9 posted on 09/10/2009 9:24:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

other Freepers also bringing up that subject lately


10 posted on 09/10/2009 9:29:11 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: Admin Moderator
To be a bonafide conspiracy, two or more individuals must knowingly conspire, plot or plan an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious act. In politics or law, an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act, is a “conspiracy.”

This article primarily concerns vetting Barack Obama for President which of course is important. But it is also about unlawful, surreptitious plotting of fraud by political and government sponsored agents.

Think about the surreptitious agreement for allowing illegal (illegal like in fraud) immigrants across the US boundary, essentially an invasion, fostered by The Council on Foreign Relations, ala GWB, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Jay Rockefeller, and virtually all Democrat funded politicians down to the State level - essentially for vote farming. This is not a conspiracy when it violates the very laws of the United States, and is opposed by a significant majority of US taxpayers?

The United States federal government is now as corrupt as at any time in its history. For some perverted reason that is covered up by the mass media, which in itself is reduced to central control by a few bigoted pretenders.

The job of each and every legitimate taxpaying citizen in the United States is to isolate, expose, and reject the sinister among us. It's going to take a gut-wrenching and principled effort. Exposing Barack Obama is a good start, but we're talking only a front man for a deep psychological schism between the Left (the sinister) and the Right (the responsible).

Johnny Suntrade

The Suntrade Institute

11 posted on 09/10/2009 9:34:39 AM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: null and void

This is a major find and has extremely serious implications. I won’t impugn the Canadafreepress (and kudos to them for breaking this story!), but I want to see the story verified by a second, independent source, before I get too animated about it!!

In the meantime, we need to get maximum pressure on the Dems to come clean if this story is true!! And, if it is, there won’t be enough tar, feathers and rails to run zero, Pelousy, et al, who perpetrated this fraud on America and the American people!! All any of us will be able to do is get out of the way of the millions of angry Americans.


12 posted on 09/10/2009 9:36:54 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I wonder if anyone has emailed Glen Beck or Rush with this article?

Does it actually make a difference, though, if they produce the correct version when someone inquires? Suppose they just say, “oops, just a boo-boo, here’s the version with the constitutional requirement in it.”


13 posted on 09/10/2009 9:37:29 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill here! Drill NOW! Defund the EPA!)
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To: thouworm
Thank you. Don't forget this one.


14 posted on 09/10/2009 9:45:21 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: null and void

Woah, maybe this is what Beck has? This is mind boggling if true. We thought spicoli was nutz for ordering a pizza and having it sent to class but this? oh man this is way over top ...


15 posted on 09/10/2009 9:47:41 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: STARWISE

there’s no signature on that form?


16 posted on 09/10/2009 9:48:36 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Judith Anne

Filing with the 50 states a notarized version is tantamount to telling a lie before a judge in a court after being sworn in. Coming back to apologize and ‘resubmit’ is not even ont he same page as telling the lie to start with.


17 posted on 09/10/2009 9:53:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: null and void

At least Pelosi was being honest in releasing the second document and not the first.
/Sarc


18 posted on 09/10/2009 9:54:13 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Scythian

I think Beck is busy picking ACORNs.


19 posted on 09/10/2009 9:55:50 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 232 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; rockabyebaby

You’re right.

But this should be Beck’s next story.


20 posted on 09/10/2009 9:57:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks.


21 posted on 09/10/2009 9:58:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill here! Drill NOW! Defund the EPA!)
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To: Scythian

Not even close. What Beck has is evidence on video tape that the Org which Barry SOetoror worked fro for years is a criminal enterprise which Barry Soetoro has established taxpayer funding for to the tune of billions. The network of front orgs is extensive and many will no doubt be connected to the current fraud-in-chief and many of his czarinas. That corruption in the democrap party is a much bigger story than the healthscare bill debate because—as Glenn put it today—’debating the healthcare reform with dishonest brokers’ in both parties is a study in futile fornicating. [Glenn didn’t mention fornicating, that was my own addition. He was more diplomatic.]


22 posted on 09/10/2009 9:58:38 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: null and void; netmilsmom

There’s no reason Beck can’t do two stories at once, darn it all!

THIS is really a story.


23 posted on 09/10/2009 10:00:04 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill here! Drill NOW! Defund the EPA!)
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To: null and void

I want to be pinged in the future please...Yikes!!!


24 posted on 09/10/2009 10:02:35 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


25 posted on 09/10/2009 10:04:01 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: jnsun
The Council on Foreign Relations, ala GWB, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Jay Rockefeller

In all my searching I have yet to find the name of George W. Bush on any of the CFR and related sites.
GHW Bush, Cheney, Rice...yes...President George W. Bush, no.

Provide evidence or cease and desist.

26 posted on 09/10/2009 10:05:48 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: DustyMoment

This was from a FOIA (freedom of information) response in Virginia.

http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/foia-request-response-from-va-document-from-va-sos-signed-by-nancy-pelosi-stating-that-pelosi-certified-obamas-qualifications/dnc-certification_of_nomination-082908-2/


27 posted on 09/10/2009 10:06:15 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Judith Anne

Somebody please get this out to Rush and Beck.

As a matter of covering our bases, however, I’d like to see the paperwork submitted in convention’s of the past. Perhaps this is a standard operating procedure? Let’s not make a storm in a teacup until we know how big is the teacup.


28 posted on 09/10/2009 10:06:29 AM PDT by rarestia (Confutatis maledictis, voca me cum benedictis)
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To: Admin Moderator
So, Pelosi and Obama are both guilty of fraud. Possibly also can prosecute some secretaries of state who accepted the incomplete document?

I pray that there are some good prosecutors out there. Subpoenas should be coming in thick and fast, if we have anybody with the courage to try to enforce the law.

29 posted on 09/10/2009 10:06:43 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Judith Anne

I agree JA!


30 posted on 09/10/2009 10:06:50 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: null and void; DustyMoment

Now there’s some smoke there.

Will attempt to remain calm as DustyMoment suggests:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2336419/posts?page=12#12


31 posted on 09/10/2009 10:07:01 AM PDT by Sparko (Obama & Czars: neutering the American Voter, perverting the Constitution, all on our dime.)
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To: Scythian; thouworm

Oooops .. you’re right. My screencap didn’t
get the complete document.

http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf


32 posted on 09/10/2009 10:08:24 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: null and void

We want justice..in so many ways, and considering acorn’s roots (per video of child sex trafficking)...nail ‘em to the wall!


33 posted on 09/10/2009 10:10:20 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: opentalk

This information, along with photos of the docs, was posted here on 9-2-09. The source was Anit-Mullah.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2330954/posts


34 posted on 09/10/2009 10:14:05 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

anti-mullah does a lot of trolling

STARWISE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8378#8378


35 posted on 09/10/2009 10:25:15 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm; STARWISE

forgot to ping

BTW: STARWISE post 8-31-09


36 posted on 09/10/2009 10:26:56 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: null and void

I don’t want to pop everyone’s buble here, but the two different forms were used for different states, some needed the certification, some didn’t.


37 posted on 09/10/2009 10:29:18 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: null and void

It can also be seen that this is a second one, signed again by the parties, as opposed to something cut/pasted. I would be interested to know about the same documents as filed in PAST nominatons. Have they previously all included the “qualified” sentence? Isn’t this sort of the main purpose of the document if it is meant to affirm or “qualify” the candidate?


38 posted on 09/10/2009 10:31:31 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: null and void; Admin Moderator

I’m bumping this thread. It has stuff I’ve never seen before.

Dear Mod: is this by any chance important enough to be in breaking news? Or is it just me?


39 posted on 09/10/2009 10:32:04 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill here! Drill NOW! Defund the EPA!)
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To: rarestia

Canada Free Press has worked very closely with Northeast Intelligence on the legal case of Obama administration threats towards media outlets reporting anything to do with Obama’s BC and NBC issues.

So I believe they will also be looking into this.


40 posted on 09/10/2009 10:36:31 AM PDT by Hypo
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To: thouworm; STARWISE
My apologies to STARWISE. Certainly would not slight her if I had known!

I simply had the thread I posted handy.

I'm just happy the info is getting out there.

41 posted on 09/10/2009 10:37:29 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: opentalk

Thanks, and good work!! This is exactly the type of independent confirmation I wanted to see.

NOW I’m ready to lock ‘n load!! We are the victims of the biggest fraud ever committed and the Democrat Party needs to make amends!!


42 posted on 09/10/2009 10:39:38 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: MHGinTN

They won’t have to submit a corrected document. They will say that they intentionally omitted the clause about Obama being eligible under the Constitution because everyone knows that the SCOTUS hasn’t ruled on the definition of a natural born citizen as it applies to a person born to one American-citizen parent and one foreign-citizen parent.

Obama found another loophole.


43 posted on 09/10/2009 10:52:36 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Further clarity

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2335800/posts?page=42#42


44 posted on 09/10/2009 10:54:33 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: opentalk

BTTT


45 posted on 09/10/2009 11:00:20 AM PDT by TXLady
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To: rolling_stone

This article says that the form without the certification is the one on file in all 50 states. Do you have information to the contrary?


46 posted on 09/10/2009 11:00:22 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: null and void
Here is my question, does anyone have a copy of the same document from Bush and Clinton. I want to see if theirs included the Constitution part. If so, then the fact that they removed it from this one is very significant.
47 posted on 09/10/2009 11:03:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This is old news and was gone over probably over a month ago on one or more of the BC threads, I believe (recall?) there were like 5 states without the cert.

Someone posted the one with cert to one or more of the states IIRCC. I will try and look. The states without the cert would be the same ones that had the resident alien Roger Calero on the ticket. In the states that needed a cert or checked citizenship Calero was replaced by another name.


48 posted on 09/10/2009 11:06:25 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: null and void; BP2; Fred Nerks; LucyT; STARWISE; MHGinTN

TY for the ping. Where can we see that same document from Bush and Clinton. Anyone have it?


49 posted on 09/10/2009 11:07:55 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: rolling_stone

http://www.politics1.com/p2008.htm

see calero Socialist Workers Party scroll down for notation


50 posted on 09/10/2009 11:08:12 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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