President Obama’s Chance for Easy Victory over the “Birthers” (with poll)

Eye On The Law ^ | 12-12-09 | Jeffrey Nichols

[STARWISE]

This office offers no opinion on the merits of the controversy regarding President Obama’s eligibility to hold office. Instead, we wonder why the President hasn’t put an end to the controversy.

Amidst all the speculation, conspiracy theories, and lawsuits surrounding President Obama’s original birth certificate, one obvious and valid question seems to stand out no matter which side of the debate one is on: why doesn’t he just produce it? (And why hasn’t anyone asked him this?)

The President has fought production of his original birth certificate in numerous lawsuits. In one, a U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida argued that his order to deploy to Afghanistan was potentially illegal because the President’s eligibility to hold office has not been confirmed.

Instead of confronting the issue directly, the military revoked the soldier’s deployment orders. These facts have added considerable fuel to the ongoing suspicion and debate.

Everyone appears to agree that President Obama’s original birth certificate (not the short-form Certificate of Live Birth that has been produced) would end the controversy and the lawsuits and quiet the so-called “birthers” once and for all.

Are we missing something here?

We want to hear from you. Please explain below why you think President Obama has not produced or should not produce his original birth certificate. Please vote to the left.

[curiosity]

He does confront them - with lawyers at a cost over $1.4M.

LOL. Here we see, yet again, birthers making up numbers out of thin air. It's kind of cute, really.

[presently no screen name]

I guess I’m wrong then. What number is it. Thanks.

[presently no screen name]

Why then should Obama feel any need to release it?

Deception never feels a need to do what is required.

[curiosity]

I guess I’m wrong then. What number is it. Thanks

There is no number. It's all made up.

[presently no screen name]

How do you know that?

[curiosity]

How do you know that?

Because no one who has quoted a number has been able to provide a source to back it up.

[presently no screen name]

So it could be 5M for all we know. If it’s a dime it’s too much - it’s not about the money spent - but the need to have the lawyers to begin with. So the money part is a non issue and a smoke screen for the root of it all.

[STE=Q]

The original, authenticated long form birth certificate will show who the authorities were contemporaneously told his parents are, among other pertinent details.

He’s clearly not Constitutionally qualified if his father is Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a citizen of Kenya/UK, as he stated.

He’s already been proven to be a liar, numerous times.

MHO complained about their ‘student loans.’ Whom were his from ?

Yes, he can continue to pay out millions and threaten the media and understandably doubtful citizens to keep all those many official records sealed; but I don’t think this issue will just go away .. and the speculation and doubt will continue to remain and grow as folks truly realize how naturally un-American he is in his core, and as he takes this great country further down.

Imagine the blackmail target this issue can make him from other nations he may upset. And they’d be blackmailing us .. the whole country .. our very safety .. could be hostage to his actions in response. It may even be happening now.

The press, secretaries of state, Congress and the hypnotized tragically dropped the biggest ball ever in our electoral history.

It’s all about will ... the will to fight for and defend the truth, our Constitution and our beloved country and .. and who has it.

I pray for America.

___________________________________________________________ You give voice to the thoughts of millions of patriots, STARWISE... THANK YOU!

STE=Q

[STARWISE]

You’re very welcome.

[STARWISE]

Thanks to edinva and others, that info’s been posted on FR .. and is readily available to those who care to find it.

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The following is information I was able to cull readily from the official Federal Elections Commission website for disbursements from the Obama campaign to the law firm of Perkins Coie, which is or did represent Obama in various eligibility suits. The FEC links follow the entries.

October quarterly:
Perkins Coie 314,018.06
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q3/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html;

July 2009 quarterly:
Perkins Coie 270,754.18
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q2/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

April quarterly
Perkins Coie 688,316.42
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q1/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

Year-End 2008
Perkins Coie 173,052.52
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/YE/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

Amended post-general election:
Perkins Coie 205,323.00
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/30G/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html

That adds up to $1,651,464.18

Perkins Coie does not appear in the pre-general election filing or a few others I checked randomly. You are free to pursue any further information that is of interest. But one would assume that the official FEC website to which the Obama and other campaigns must report their financial activity would be taken by even the most skeptical among us as valid documentation of the reported $1.4 or $1.8, or anything in between, figure expended to defend the eligibility suits.

This information is about the legal fees only of that one law firm, not the DOJ attorneys, court time, or other related costs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2395463/posts?page=42#42

Thank you, Ed! It also doesn’t cover other involved law firms .. Morgan, Nicholas; Morgan, Bockius et al, who’ve been paid and the other involved lawyers whose names we don’t know.

[wintertime]

which will be the right time to get rid of him.
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Anyone occupying the White House who is ineligible to hold the office of president needs to be evacuated IMMEDIATELY!

[wintertime]

LOL. Here we see, yet again, birthers making up numbers out of thin air. It's kind of cute, really.
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Even though the information has been shoved up your nose, tomorrow you will still be using the same old DOJ talking points.

[STARWISE]

This shows disbursements by purpose:

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DISBURSEMENTS BY PURPOSE

OBAMA FOR AMERICA
PO Box 8102
Chicago, Illinois 60680

FEC Committee ID #: C00431445

This report contains activity for a Primary Election

Report type: October Quarterly
Filed 10/15/2009

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PURPOSE SUM
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CATERING/FACILITIES -1,017.00

COMPUTER SOFTWARE 3,200.00

CONS./ACCT.SERV. 47,690.00

CONS/PROF.SERV. COMPUTER 18,487.37

CONTRIBUTION 52.82

CONTRIBUTION REFUND -3,869.30

CONTRIBUTIONS CHARITABLE 95,604.89

CREDIT CARD FEES -966.78

DELIVERY 38.88

DOMAIN WEBSITES 9,000.00

EQUIPMENT RENTAL 305.88

EVENT SITE RENTAL 13,530.00

INSURANCE 133,726.07

INTERPRETING SERVICE 420.52

LEGAL SERVICES 323,908.06

MAILING 211.40

MEDIA BUY 10,290.56

OFFICE SUPPLIES 23.36

ON-LINE ADVERTISING 5,000.00

PAYROLL 74,854.50

PAYROLL PROCESSING FEE 1,867.03

PAYROLL TAXES 8,332.99

PER DIEM 0.00

POSTAGE 353.94

PRINTING 190.00

RENT/OCCUPANCY 14,761.89

SECURITY 282.00

STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING -822.40

TELEMARKETING 9,829.44

TELEPHONE 1,758.13

TRAVEL AGENCY FEES 13.98

TRAVEL/LODGING 630.42

UNLIMITED TRANSFER 70,000.00

UTILITIES -152.36

WEB SITE HOSTING 17,927.86

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q3/C00431445/B_PURPOSE_C00431445.html

[presently no screen name]

Thank you both! $1.4M is a very conservative figure and it's evident it is much more. It could very well be close to $4 or 5M - since so much is excluded.

Curiosity .. Because no one who has quoted a number has been able to provide a source to back it up.

Thanks to edinva and others, that info’s been posted on FR .. and is readily available to those who care to find it.

Curiosity - What's up w/that? I took you at your word. that's makes me gullible. But what does that make you? I'll tell you one time - DO NOT EVER POST TO ME again. You got that, chump?

[STARWISE]

No problem. Remember, that amount is for 3
quarters of 2009... last quarter yet to come.

In addition to all the other appurtenant legal
expenses not identified or singled out (such as
Right Now Technologies, which disbursements are
also listed in reports as ‘legal services’) the
disbursements in 2008 also count and are available.

[STARWISE]

Should the President produce his
original birth certificate.

Yes.

406 (95%)

No.

18 (4%)

http://eyeonthelaw.blogspot.com/2009/12/president-obamas-chance-for-easy.html

Decent result, seeing how I was the 3rd person to vote
YES .. and there weren’t any for NO.

[Vendome]

Limp wristed sissy.

[Vendome]

I am expecting to hear AHhhhhhh! by Memorial Day as his numbers fall off the edge of a cliff.

[presently no screen name]

Yes. 412 (95%)

No. 18 (4%)

Votes so far: 430

[Red Steel]

But what does that make you? [Curiosity] I'll tell you one time - DO NOT EVER POST TO ME again. You got that, chump?

It makes her one of the biggest BS artists on FR. She's done this many times.