Posted on 02/11/2010 11:52:48 AM PST by CautiouslyHopeful
True enough, but she helped him do it. If she were a Truther I’d say good for Beck, but in this case she blew and Beck was all too happy to take advantage of it.
I found it disgusting the way he and those other clowns played bully-boy with that poor woman who had just talked herself out of the governor’s race. That wasn’t enough for Beck - he and his buddies had to pile on and probably destroy the political career of a rookie female pol who believes 90% of what Beck claims to believe. Infuriating.
They represent special districts composed exclusively of workers at The Lighthouse for the Blind.
LOL
She isn’t a Truther; she did give a poor interview; there was no conspiracy “get” her on Beck’s show (although Beck is in Perry’s pocket); except for shallow twits, giving good interviews is not the top qualification for being governor.
Although he is good on the life issue and guns (both words and deeds), Perry has betrayed us at almost every point on issues such as taxes, spending, border enforcement, and property rights, despite giving lots of good interviews filled with words conservatives want to hear. KBH is worse than Perry.
So, do I go with someone whose motor-mouth ran away with her in an interview and who generally is not mediagenic, but who probably means what she says about border enforcement, life, reducing spending, cutting taxes and restructuring the tax system, and defending the 2nd and 10th amendments, or do I go with someone who is a proven liar and betrayer on most of these issues? It doesn’t matter, because most people here are going to return to Perry like a dog returns to its vomit. Bear in mind that I say all of this as a serial Perry voter myself.
None of this affects you, but the next legislative session will probably have to deal with a $17 billion shortfall (thanks to Perry-enabled overspending). When our really smooth, sophisticated governor (whether Perry, KBH, or White) and the legislature are done raising fees and/or taxes and have resorted to the usual accounting tricks to close the gap, there will be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth by those on FR who are delighted that nobody bothered to woodshed Medina on how to deal with the media.
Evidently you have a comphehensive problem. I went back through my posts and not ONCE have I said a word in this thread against anything but those who believe in or encourage the belief in our government deliberately killing 3000 of its own citizens. It’s a sickening unfounded conspiracy and I will push against any who dabble in it.
From this you take off on a rant about what I assume to mean the Gorelick wall and such which btw as a Freeper around during that period when it was a hot topic for a FACT I know the majority of Freepers had several complaints about the systemic failures in our government and the 911 commission in general. I was one of them and remain so as Obama tries to put those checks back in place.
However, none of that is relevant to what Medina herself said. None of it. So I do question why you would be in this thread making a case about those failures in our intelligence and how they came to be if not to somehow create some loose comparison between that and what Truthers believe. I take it that is not your intent but if so wrong time and wrong place to argue the point. Particularly with someone who deson’t deny our government ran perfectly to begin with.
If you are not a Truther, you have no need to take offense at anything I’ve stated.
None of this affects you...
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You’re right of course. I don’t live in Texas. It doesn’t affect me, at least not directly. But I think that Medina’s claim to represent a “Tea Party” mentality is off base — and as a “Tea Party” member (so to speak) that does affect me.
Of course, Texans have every right to elect whom they will. NONE of their choices are, in my view, “good” choices. Perry has been, as you say, unacceptable on the border, on the Texas Supercorridor, on forced vaccinations for pre-teen girls, and the list goes on. KBH has been WORSE — a pro-abort RINO in Texas would be tantamount to surrendering to the Progressive overlords in Washington.
But Medina, with her refusal to disavow the “truthers” baloney, just knocked herself right out of the race. The question was a simple one — and she REFUSED to answer it in a forthright, absolute way. So, she’s NOT a “truther,” then WHY didn’t she simply say, “I’m NOT a truther, and there’s no room for a “truther” in my campaign?”
The undoing of the “Tea Party” movement may well be the fringe elements that hang onto issues that, weighed against all the other issues we must face and fight, really amount to little or nothing in terms of priorities. Those relative few “truthers” or “birthers” will be hung around the neck of the Tea Party movement, and the press and the public will cast us to the bottom of the sea.
Vote for whom you will, but a vote for Medina is very probably a vote for the Progressivist Democrat White, or perhaps the Progressivist RINO KBH. I had hoped we’d gotten past this stage after November 2008, but apparently, America needs a little more self-inflicted torture.
She isn’t a Truther. She fumbled the interview. That is not a plus, but hardly has the significance that people ascribe to it. It seems we have a real “mote and beam problem” when we are comparing Medina’s shortcomings to those of her opponents.
In any event, the die is cast. People demand what is familiar, even if it is corrupt. So, now we get to look forward to another four years of lies and betrayal.
Sounds about right - except for the sex part.
Well, she made up my mind. I’ll vote for Perry in the primary AND general. Sorry Debra....don’t need a half-loony in the gooberner’s mansion.
The problem is the question was a softball. It only required a “No” answer. Inexperience should never have come into play. She beat herself, plain and simple.
I wonder if Beck will now question Rand Paul with the same 9/11 Truther questions he asked Medina. I hope so, I don’t trust the Pauls.
Well, guess what Falcon28, I now no longer trust Debra Medina. SHE FREAKIN’ BLEW IT!!!
I think you are overreacting. She handled 42 seconds badly. KBH and Perry have handled most of their years in office badly. She isn’t a Truther, and it is just the KBHer’s and Perry folks shrieking about how she must be a Truther because she gave a blabbering, ambiguous answer that makes a bad interview seem like more than it was.
Let’s see, do I want a candidate who is probably being straight with me when she says she wants to cut spending, cut taxes, restructure the tax system, enforce the border, and protect our property rights and 10th Amendment rights, or a candidate who has over many years demonstrated a willingness to lie about these things to get our votes?
Unfortunately, conservatives are easy to sucker, so we are likely to get another 4 years of lies and betrayal because of a bad interview. I guess looking good, lying well, and being familiar “leaders with experience” is what matters. We are going to deserve what we get.
....crap now there is no one to support. This sucks
I found it disgusting the way he and those other clowns played bully-boy with that poor woman who had just talked herself out of the governor’s race. That wasn’t enough for Beck - he and his buddies had to pile on and probably destroy the political career of a rookie female pol who believes 90% of what Beck claims to believe. Infuriating.
If a candidate cannot make it through the "heat of an election" -- then they should fail. They're not good enough material... Sorry... but that's just the way it is.
Perhaps she should have run for local dogcatcher first and then she could have tried for Governor of the state... LOL...
At any rate, we don't want any 9/11 Truthers around here...
“You” plural or singular?
As I see it, there are two problems. First, she gave a bad interview, not unlike Palin’s interview with Couric. It wasn’t Beck’s fault at all.
The second problem, which is far more serious, is the dishonest way that some of the KBHer’s and Perrybots are smearing her with the Truther label in order to benefit their own serial liar candidates. Too bad that she didn’t give the answer to the question she provided immediately after the interview. She has a lot to learn about doing media.
On the other hand, I guess for some KBH and Perry are highly qualified because they can betray us year after year on spending, taxes, borders, property rights, and all sorts of things, but that is ok because they know how to smile into a camera and tell smooth lies.
The second problem, which is far more serious, is the dishonest way that some of the KBHer’s and Perrybots are smearing her with the Truther label in order to benefit their own serial liar candidates.
Well, as I've said earlier in posts about this issue (other threads), I'm not one of the Perry supporters, as I haven't said a thing about him and basically have not had to consider supporting him or any other candidate. And I'm certainly not a KBH-er either...
I haven't been in on this Texas Governor's race at all; I've supported no one. The only thing I'm in here for is in regards to a 9/11 Truther. That's my issue that I'm weighing in on. The way I see it (from how she's responded in that interview) is that she's a truther.
In fact, the 9/11 Truthers think she is a truther... so they ought to know their own (that's what another Freeper said in regards to him looking over some of their forums about what she said; they're all behind her for being a truther).
I just don't want to see any 9/11 Truther involved in any political office.
Well, I heard the interview, and what she was doing was foolishly trying not to alienate Truthers. It was absolutely foolish and has probably knocked her out of contention. But almost immediately afterward she issued a clarification on the issue. The Truther smear is just the Republican establishment trying to keep the game closed to outsiders. Nevertheless, she played into their hands.
I guess it will be Perry. I’ll certainly have to vote for him over White, but what a lousy choice. I wish Ted Poe had entered the race.
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