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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: BP2
Also, we're all still waiting for answers on the questions referenced in Post 2782?

See 2804.


2,821 posted on 03/05/2010 10:32:42 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: BP2

It looks like Dr. Orly Taitz has her own thread there. That was nice of them.

parsy, who appreciates politeness


2,822 posted on 03/05/2010 10:38:56 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal; All

It looks like Dr. Orly Taitz has her own thread there. That was nice of them.

Just trying to make you feel more comfortable, Parnsip.

I would put on a Bigfoot suit for you, but then I might find myself
in a snare trap set by some After-Birther nut looking for a way to
prove more dubious claims from unknown eyewitnesses.



2,823 posted on 03/05/2010 10:51:40 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster; EnderWiggins; parsifal; Red Steel; little jeremiah; LucyT; All

The Punk'd photos were taken months after the original photo was taken. In fact, the original photo was taken months before it ever became public.

Quite the "story" you weave, punki.

It sounds equally as easy to make up "facts" after the fact.


Granted it's draft version 0.1, but here's my stab at FICTION:


My name is Chanise Foxx. I work at a office supply store in Kenwood, IL. After nearly 3 years of silence and death threats to me and my family to stay quiet, I am compelled to come forward and tell the world my secret.

I helped Obama campaign staffer Divorah Edler create a fake birth certificate for use in the famous Fact Check story to prove the world of Obama's birth in the 2008 election. Divorah approached me in early 2007 and held onto the birth certificate until she released it in August 2008.


As I've been making fake IDs part-time for local college students for about eight years now, faking a birth certificate was actually quite easy. Our first step was to get our hands on someone else's birth certificate from Hawaii. We then created the stationary to match.


Next, we had to create an embossed stamp and rubber signature stamp for Hawaiian officials. With the help of a high-resolution scanner at the store, I did most of my work at night when the place was vacant ...

Get the general idea, Punki?

If your goal coming to FR was to somehow LEGITIMIZE Obama's FactCheck COLB, print yourself an EPIC FAIL award certificate! I could weave a fantastical story that would have you Libs chasing your tails for weeks trying to figure out what the hell is going on, feeding the beast with more twists and turns, real-time. We've done it to you before ... we'll do it to you again.

You only show how easily punking works BOTH ways in the digital age, especially with a CORRUPT Obama COLB Chain of Custody and factoring in that the State of Hawaii has never come out and said they are the source of Obama's FactCheck COLB.

Why on EARTH you After-Birthers TRUST this thing is beyond reason and logic!



2,824 posted on 03/06/2010 12:31:44 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: EnderWiggins

Some people post things to draw attention to themselves.

At least I can say I heard it directly form someone’s mouth.


2,825 posted on 03/06/2010 4:20:48 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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To: lucysmom
Really? What file format would you recommend?

That description was taken from a we site to illustrate that converting files is indeed optimizing photos.

The poster that I sent that to said that optimizing and file conversion were not the same.

.jpeg is a good format but can slightly dull the edges in certain circumstances due to the compression, not that the casual observer would ever notice though.

Most graphic artist are anal about things like that, hence the description of .jeg

2,826 posted on 03/06/2010 5:33:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: little jeremiah
Who is Neal Sankey?

I don't have a clue, I never heard of him either, but apparently he wants to make sure Obama strays in office by using a forged Birth certificate to discredit birthers.

2,827 posted on 03/06/2010 5:51:15 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

What forum you met on is relevant to your story. We only have your word on how you “met” wiggy. No proof.


2,828 posted on 03/06/2010 6:02:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

I don’t have to show you any statue!

It’s common sense even if you had created a Bogus Birth Certificate for John Lennon and were vague about it’s authenticity for the purposes of creating the illusion that it might be real you would be guilty of a crime.

Follow the steps here,

you made the bogus document,
you promoted it as something that might be real,
and you knew it wasn’t all along,
and you had a definite goal in mind,
to have it be accepted as genuine
so that you could later prove it was not.
That’s a scam and a case of fraud by most definitions.

The difference between you and Ashton Kutcher is that he is a professional with a team of lawyers that carefully studies if his pranks are legal and he gets the permission to use every piece of Video footage he uses on his show from his victims.

If they decline to be on his show he cannot use it.

Your deal to stay here is that you would answer any question asked of you and right now I am asking the questions.

How did Neal Sankey become aware of you and your bogus birth certificate?

Did you contact him first or did he contact you?

How did he come to know you had this document?

Did you conspire with him to pass on your bogus birth certificate as genuine to Orly Tadiz?

How old are you?

What is your occupation?

What is your political affiliation?

What city do you live in?

Do you believe that Barack Obama would be eligible to be president if it was proved that he was born in Kenya?

What was your ultimate goal in creating this document?


2,829 posted on 03/06/2010 6:21:05 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: EnderWiggins
The TIF I have provided for download is the single highest resolution image of the FKBC ever before seen. This proves that it is the source image for Orly’s photo. It can only have been provided by the originator.

What exactly do you mean by resolution ?
You can be as technical as you want. I can handle it.
2,830 posted on 03/06/2010 6:32:31 AM PST by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD, and a BMF besides.)
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To: BP2

“Granted it’s draft version 0.1, but here’s my stab at FICTION:”

Beeps, I hate to be the one to tell you, but you and the Birther Covens have been playing with FICTION, for quite a while. It’s REALITY you guys been stabbing at.

parsy, who starts the day with in a jolly fashion....


2,831 posted on 03/06/2010 8:32:52 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: usmcobra

He’s the “Scotland Yard” P I who gave the world the ridiculous list of social security numbers. He candidly admits it doesn’t prove anything.

parsy, the helpful


2,832 posted on 03/06/2010 8:42:25 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal; BP2

If we needed a reality check, it wouldn’t be you that we asked!


2,833 posted on 03/06/2010 8:44:30 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: usmcobra

Sankey, on Sankey:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/22/barack-obama-british-conspiracist

parsy, who notes Sankey keeps coming up with squat


2,834 posted on 03/06/2010 8:46:47 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Am I to presume you are now willing to discuss/argue without resort to the “run go tell” option every time your feelings get hurt?

parsy, who is unwilling to speak further to you if the answer isn’t “yes”


2,835 posted on 03/06/2010 8:51:20 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
Am I to presume you are now willing to discuss/argue without resort to the “run go tell” option every time your feelings get hurt?

As you've been told, it is FR etiquette to ping the person you are speaking about. The mods will cause you pain if you don't.

And I don't debate with jokers who have personality disorders.

parsy who still doesn't understand manners

2,836 posted on 03/06/2010 8:57:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: parsifal; Jim Robinson
Am I to presume you are now willing to discuss/argue without resort to the “run go tell” option every time your feelings get hurt?

Why does pinging Jim scare you so much? What are you afraid of?

And yes, I pinged him again. I'm not willing to break the rules just to make you comfortable.

2,837 posted on 03/06/2010 9:00:50 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My opinion of your constant sissified whining:

Limerick in Honor of Birther Coven 23

They were into Reality—(Not!),
As they tried to invent them a Plot.
They dressed up in leather
And rode bikes together
And went screaming for “Mommie!” a lot!

And, as I have repeatedly asked, do not post to me until and unless you are ready to “freeper up” without bothering other people to come pull your fat from the fire. What part of that do you not get?

parsy, who you should be ashamed of yourself, Whiny Pill!


2,838 posted on 03/06/2010 9:08:26 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
And, as I have repeatedly asked, do not post to me until and unless you are ready to “freeper up” without bothering other people to come pull your fat from the fire. What part of that do you not get?

While you continue to answer. And no one has EVER had to "pull my fat from the fire". You are not the debater that you think you are. Your incessant whining about FR etiquette proves that.

What part of FR rules do you not get?

parsy who is terrified of JIM ROB

2,839 posted on 03/06/2010 9:18:28 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

It would have been just as quick to type the name of the forum. If you’re looking for credibility - which is a must if people are to trust you - you don’t get it by refusing to answer easily-answered questions that will help verify your truthfulness.

When I was looking to establish my credibility I would have jumped at any chance to provide verifiable information so people could know I was truthful.


2,840 posted on 03/06/2010 9:20:13 AM PST by butterdezillion
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