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Why Galileo was Wrong, Even Though He was Right
Darwin's God ^ | 03/07/2010 | Cornelius Hunter

Posted on 03/07/2010 11:42:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/07/2010 11:42:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

ping


2 posted on 03/07/2010 11:45:13 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually the earth, sun, and other planets orbit a common center of gravity that would lie somewhere betwen the center of the sun and the orbit of Mercury.

Its what causes the wobble that we’ve used to detect planets around some other stars.


3 posted on 03/07/2010 11:53:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


4 posted on 03/07/2010 11:58:51 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: SeekAndFind

hahaha. pathetic.


5 posted on 03/07/2010 12:02:20 PM PST by warpsmith (Nauthannem i ned ol renainnen.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There have been knock-down, drag-out flame wars over this on FR.

Nobody seems willing to grasp what Einstein meant, in introducing his theory of General Relativity in The Evolution Of Physics, when he wrote:

"The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either CS could be used with equal justification. The two sentences, 'the sun is at rest and the earth moves,' or 'the sun moves and the earth is at rest,' would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS."

So, according to Einstein, geocentrism is not so much a matter of "right" or "wrong," but a point of view based upon a CS or coordinate system, and, according to him, the debate was rendered moot by General Relativity.

I expect the controversy will continue, though, because no one is willing to grasp the implications. It threatens too much orthodoxy, in which a powerful hierarchy is too thoroughly vested.

Sounds like history is repeating itself, but the shoe is on the other foot, lol.

6 posted on 03/07/2010 12:08:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting the article.


“Third, it was understood that science could devise models that, on the one hand fit the data but on the other hand were not true or approximately so.”


Gee, that sounds familiar.


7 posted on 03/07/2010 12:08:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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Yes, you could make a relativistic argument that the Earth is fixed and the rest of the universe revolves around it.

But the problem with doing that is, you’ll have to alter the laws of physics and gravitation, to make it seem as if the Earth’s influence on it is greater than the giant bodies that it “apparently” seems to force to revolve around, in the same relativistic view.

It would be an unnecessary complication, better gotten rid off by accepting that it is the Earth which is doing the revolving.


8 posted on 03/07/2010 12:14:20 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well, I don’t care if we are the center, or the Sun is, but if we pick the Sun, then all our measurements should start from there, instead of some unstable wobbly ball flying round the flame of a candle.


9 posted on 03/07/2010 12:15:05 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: SeekAndFind

Galileo was right about the earth going around the sun but Galileo was wrong about earth not being the “center of the universe.”

Actually, everything, every atom, is at the center of its space-time continuum. Everything, no matter where it is, is the same distance in space and time from the edge of the universe defined as the “Big Bang.” Everything, therefore, is at the “center of the universe” at all times, including earth.


10 posted on 03/07/2010 12:17:22 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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It would be an unnecessary complication, better gotten rid off by accepting that it is the Earth which is doing the revolving.

Evolving, Revolving, what's the difference?

11 posted on 03/07/2010 12:21:13 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: James C. Bennett

Einstein accomodated that as well. You’re referring to Special Relativity. Einstein refers to General Relativity, which does not violate the old, physical laws of Special Relativity.

“The Evolution Of Physics” is available online for free download, at http://www.archive.org. Give it a quick look, it’s written in a very accessible, conversational style, in order to be accessible to as wide an audience as possible. It’s no impenetrable slog, there’s only one formula in it as I recall.


12 posted on 03/07/2010 12:22:03 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
"Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
—Obi-Wan Kenobi
13 posted on 03/07/2010 12:22:03 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: James C. Bennett; RegulatorCountry

See post 10 for resolution.

Everything is at rest relative to the center of the Big Bang, whose edge forever moves away equally in all directions from every point.


14 posted on 03/07/2010 12:25:02 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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15 posted on 03/07/2010 12:27:57 PM PST by shineon
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To: shineon

Praise the name of Jesus. By Him were all things made that are made. And God breathed into man the breath of life.


16 posted on 03/07/2010 12:31:24 PM PST by shineon
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; RegulatorCountry
Everything is at rest relative to the center of the Big Bang, whose edge forever moves away equally in all directions from every point.

Thus proving, once again, I am the center of the universe.

17 posted on 03/07/2010 12:32:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: shineon

If monkeys and man have a common ancestor then it is God.


18 posted on 03/07/2010 12:32:17 PM PST by shineon
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To: UCANSEE2

If you accept the one, you accept that the wobble isn’t terrestrial, but is more of a swirl in the movement of the sun, the moon, the planets and all celestial bodies.

There are some beautiful old lithographs showing such movement from that perspective, planets “kissing” and such, the music they made with the harmonies formed. The planets known to the ancients represented musical notes.


19 posted on 03/07/2010 12:32:33 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: shineon

Sometimes I think that my stomach is proof of the expanding universe.


20 posted on 03/07/2010 12:33:02 PM PST by shineon
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