Skip to comments.Dr. Mark Mostert: A Swedish Poster Person for Euthanasia
Posted on 03/18/2010 4:46:03 PM PDT by wagglebee
Those of us who can clearly see the slippery slope from human exceptionalism and the nurturing of life to assisted suicide and euthanasia on demand for any reason are often taken to task for being alarmist and illogical.
Dont believe that for a minute.
As I have often written, the Netherlands pretty much led the way down the slippery slope beginning in the late 80s. Since then, weve seen assisted suicide legalized in several European countries and three US states.
I think its fair to say that the UK will likely follow sooner or later. In the UK, the poster person for the right to assisted suicide was Debbie Purdy, a woman with MS who has campaigned for several years to have her partner help her commit suicide without any legal penalty. Purdys persistence eventually resulted in an official clarification of UK penalties for those who aid and abet suicide. The clarification is quite vague, ambiguous, and potentially opens the door to all kinds of abuse.
Now Swedens own version of Purdy is asking that she be euthanized, and in her case, it will be euthanasia, because she is completely paralyzed and therefore cannot physically be assisted to kill herself by taking lethal meds, as is the case for assisted suicide.
From Swedens Radio International:
A letter to the Swedish Social welfare board has rekindled the debate here on mercy killing or euthanasia at present banned by Swedish law.
The letter has come from a 31-year-old woman who has been tied to a respirator since the age of 6 growing constantly worse from a neurological disease from birth.
Unable to take a single breath on her own or to move, she is asking to be put to sleep and that the machine be shut off so that she can end her life in what describes as in dignity.
She wants this to be done now while she still has full mental capacities and before she gets worse.
Her Swedish doctor insists that her request must be respected otherwise this is forced treatment against her will, and he is asking the association of doctors for a ruling.
The head of the associations ethical committee says he agrees, that the social welfare authorities have in general agreed with the committees line, but now has make a clear decision lifting the ban on euthanasia to make it easier for the patient and the doctors to make their decisions.
Earlier Swedish headlines have been captured by some Swedish terminal patients travelling to euthanasia clinics in Switzerland and elsewhere to get the help they are denied here in Sweden.
I predict months of handwringing, the pro-deathers loudly commandeering the media for their nihilistic propaganda, and the beatifying of this woman with significant medical disabilities.
I further predict that sooner rather than latter the Swedish legal system will be cowed into going along with euthanasia.
And along the way, trust me, well be told repeatedly what a good, compassionate, and loving idea this is.
That's what they ALWAYS do.
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This article doesn’t make Mr. Mostert sound like a very pleasant human being.
What makes him “unpleasant”? Do you mean the fact that he opposes euthanasia?
dissenters will be euthenized.
He writes with a holier-than though, high-horse snarkiness that makes him sound every bit as annoying as the activists he condemns.
People in horrible condition with no chance to recover should be allowed to commit suicide if they wish. And yeah, with proper consent, witnesses, etc, I see no real problem with assisted suicide in many cases.
Really no different than a soldier wounded and about to be captured and tortured by Islamic radicals- if he/she feels they are going to die anyway and may as well go out on their own terms, I just don’t have any objections to it.
Why? Because he opposes euthanasia?
ANYONE has the right to commit suicide, but that doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean that the government should participate.
Really no different than a soldier wounded and about to be captured and tortured by Islamic radicals- if he/she feels they are going to die anyway and may as well go out on their own terms, I just dont have any objections to it.
It's totally different. That is dying to protect others.
The government should not be in the business of killing innocent people. They damn sure shouldn’t be killing soldiers for getting captured.
Apparently there was a word....or combination of words that you simply didn’t understand?
Suicide is killing oneself. That’s the individual’s own decision.
Euthanasia is not suicide, it’s murder. There’s no such thing as *assisted suicide*, it’s legalized homicide.
What the deathbots want it to legalize certain forms of murder done by certain groups of people (so called medical “professionals”) to certain groups of people, those whose lives are not deemed to be worthy of living any more.
There are very effective ways of doing yourself in if you’re really determined to. You don’t have to have someone murder you because you lack the wherewithal to do it yourself.
The government should not be in the business of endorsing murder.
As soon as someone trots out the phrase “holier than thou”, it begs the question - what’s wrong with being “holy” or rather, standing up for morality?
Someone doesn’t feel “holy” and therefore feels guilty? And dislikes people who stand up for morality?
High horse snarkiness? Meaning he says he’s right, and those who want laws changed so they can legally kill people are wrong?
It’s one thing to commit suicide oneself.
People do it every day.
It’s entirely another thing to want doctors to be able to kill people. Call it “assisted suicide”, “euthanasia”, or “death with dignity” - it’s murder.
Thou shalt not kill.
I didn’t seen any holier-than-thou attitude in his writing. Where are you getting that from?
Dignity is what a person brings to death, it has NOTHING to do with how they die and even less to do with how they “look” when they die.
Hitler had a party before he died, dressed in his finest uniform and chose the exact manner of his death. I’m sure he “looked dignified” before he died, but he didn’t have a shred of dignity.
Jesus Christ was stripped naked, beaten, mocked and nailed to His Cross. It’s very unlikely that He “looked dignified” to His executioners, yet He died with more dignity than anyone who will ever live.
Dr. Mostert is one of the leading experts on disabled people in the world:
Did you mean “retzach”?
That reminds me of the Days of Praise entry we had on Tuesday. I was hoping not to have to type it out from my booklet, so I searched, and discovered Free Republic has a thread about it. Thank you Sopater.
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You said the truth as clearly and beautifully as anyone could.
At least the Calvary Baptist had the balls to kick murdering Judge George Greer out of their church when he was scheming to kill Terri Schiavo. They finally killed her on March 31, 2005.
Lutherans, cut the crap. Euthanazi's, rot in hell.
When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
I would contend she has every legal and moral right to have her machine turned off.
She also has the right to ask that this be done while she is unconcious so she doesn't suffer as she dies.
I don't consider this euthanasia. That would involve giving her medication that kills her directly.
I am not sure what kind of equipmment is keeping this woman alive. The word “respirator” was used; usually this means a machine which does all of one’s breathing; and usually a person is sedated into a coma to tolerate the pain and discomfort. I’ve visited a friend who was on one; he was similarly sedated into unconsciousness; it was a temporary therapy after a serious emergency operation, and he survived and 20 years later is alive relatively healthy.
My understanding of “assisted suicide” is being given something that causes death such as any kind of pharmaceutical drug or other poison, or removing food and water. Of course some people are also bedridden and cannot take care of themselves at all, and if left unattended, would die.
But the realm of machinery that keeps people alive such as ventilators or respirators or other machines that take over bodily functions like heart or lungs - to turn these off, if the patient has previously requested, or is brought to consciousness and then requests them to be turned off, is not suicide. I do not know the details in this case.
I had an old friend who was diagnosed a few years ago with a very fast growing, inoperable and incurable lung cancer. He was in his mid-50s. He was put on a ventilator, and sedated heavily. His family arrived, and was told that there was not a tiny possibility of treatment or cure, and that death was inevitable, as the cancer had spread throughout both lungs and other parts of his body. They brought him to consciousness, told him the situation, and asked if he wanted to be kept alive on the ventilator or have it turned off.
He chose to have it turned off, and neither he, his family, or I consider it suicide. He left this world with prayer and in the company of his family and a couple of close friends.
You are free to use that word if you want. It still doesn’t explain why you condemn Dr. Mostert for his opposition to killing.
I agree. Your friend died naturally.
[If all the woman wants is to turn off the breather, she is not committing suicide, she is living free of assistance for a few moments, and then dying naturally of her illness. I think people who want to die naturally are ok. But if you need to ask someone to give you a lethal injection or a pill or otherwise cause you to die, you are asking too much of them. They become your killer and it’s wrong to ask that of them. And it’s wrong to play God and do it to yourself. But if it’s time to “let go and let God”, ok.]
Exactly. Everyone born here has to die (aka “depart from the earthly tent) at some point. No one can stay in the perishable body forever, nor would any sane person want to.
But when we arrive and when we leave, is in God’s hands, and to try to wrest that power away from Him is pure destructive evil.
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