Skip to comments.Duncan Hunter for President 2012 – Reasons 10 through 17
Posted on 03/23/2010 12:08:25 PM PDT by pissant
10. Although Duncan Hunters name is nearly synonymous with the Border Fence on the US-Mexico border (at least the part of the REAL fence that is working), he should also be known for his stances on abolishing the anchor baby laws, beefing up the numbers of Border Patrol officers, scuttling all benefits to illegal aliens, snuffing out the notion of sanctuary cities, and, most importantly, standing firm on his position that illegal aliens must be deported. It is the same position he came to Congress with in 1980. It has not changed. When asked during his 2008 presidential primary run by the Washington Post what he would do with the millions already here, Hunter responded:
"You realize we deport thousands of people every month? We tell folks, You have to go home. Make your country a good country. Put pressure on your government if you dont like things. Get after those congressmen in Mexico and those congressmen in other countries.
Asked again in December 2009 why he opposes any kind of amnesty, he told Conservative Central:
The effect of calling an amnesty when reviewed in the historic context that is the 3 million folks who were given amnesty in the 1980s when Congress said now this time we really mean it, read the fine print nobody else gets to get in. They obviously let their friends and neighbors and relatives know that they got amnesty and so you had, which was entirely predictable, another wave of people heading north expecting to catch the 2nd amnesty. So as the credibility of the US government for enforcement slides lower and lower, if we get a second amnesty, if anyone thinks there wont be another vast wave of illegal aliens coming in anticipation of a third amnesty, then I think we can sell those folks the Brooklyn Bridge fairly quickly. They are extremely gullible. Of course there will be a big wave of people.
11. On the hair-brained idea for a virtual border fence the kind touted by Republican know-nothings like Rick Perry, Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson, along with the Democrats that was just cancelled due to poor performance, Hunter had this to say in an interview last week:
"Now I also told the good Senators and Homeland Security that the Virtual Fence would be virtually worthless. And theyve now killed the thing. Yeah, the virtual fence has now been abandoned.
"I told them further that theyd pay Boeing a fortune. Boeing had never come in under cost on any project theyve ever done for the American taxpayer, whether its military aircraft or a virtual fence.
"They must have got tired of looking at the field reports, where the Border Patrolmen had their laptops bouncing off the ceiling as they were vectoring left and right in the open deserts as bands of illegal aliens zigzagged on them in the dark of night.
"The virtual fence was one of the dumbest acts in show business yet they were able to propose and pitch this thing - and pay for it with a straight face. But youll notice nobody is suggesting that they put a virtual fence around the Whitehouse. They decided to keep a real one."
12. Some people, mainly political opponents of Duncan Hunter, have claimed that since he is staunchly and unapologetically Pro-AMERICAN manufacturing and not a free-trade kool aid drinker, that he is some kind of Union flack. Nothing could be further from the truth. While Hunter is not anti-union - pointing out that some Unions, historically, were more anti-communist than many in his own party - he has a pretty poor scorecard from the AFL-CIO. They rated him at 20% in 2003 and 2005, indicating an anti-union voting record. The UAWs ratings for Hunter were even less, and his ratings from the NEA, and other government unions; worse still.
Meanwhile, despite his anti-WTO, anti-NAFTA, and anti-sovereignty usurping, supranational entity stands in general, Hunter has an US Chamber of Commerce lifetime rating of 84. That is higher than various libertine free-traders and China suck-ups such as Jeff Flake (71), John McCain (82), and Ron Paul (62).
Better yet, Hunter was rated 100% by the National Federation of Independent Businesses, and awarded the Guardian of Small Business Award in 2002, with the President of the Federation saying Hunter is a "true and consistent advocate for Main Street small business." He also rated 100% from Gary Bauers pro-business Campaign for Working Families.
13. Duncan Hunter is the antithesis of the nanny-state politician. In addition to being a true believer that Americans do not want to become Europeans, Hunter was instrumental in pushing welfare reform onto the Clinton Administration. In fact, to Hunter, the legislation was not nearly tough enough. Hunter has a 15% rating from RESULTS, the liberal anti-poverty group, 0% from ARC which focuses on federal funds for the mentally retarded, 8% from the Humane Society Legislative Fund, 0% from the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund (despite Hunters great appreciation for mounting elk heads in his home), and 10% from the Social Security pimping Alliance for Retired Americans (Hunter wants to privatize SS).
Hunter also received a whopping 4% rating from the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights which specializes in pushing the homosexual agenda (compared to 9% for Mike Pence, 26% for Thad McCotter), 14% from the National Farmers Union despite representing an agricultural dependent area, 7% from the National Association of Wheat growers, 0% from the National Breast Cancer Coalition, and a blazing 5% from the Republicans for Environmental Protection (even old James Inhofe rated a 10% with these fruitcakes).
Hunter led the charge in 2003 to exempt military installations from endangered species laws, saying These troops need to have places to train, and these training grounds are becoming more and more restricted because of applications, and I think wrongful applications, of our environmental laws. He told the North County Times, We went at this with the viewpoint that the most important endangered creature is the 19-year-old Marine rifleman.
Hunter was rewarded with a zero rating from the League of Conservation Voters.
But perhaps the most illustrative thing Hunter said regarding the nanny state was given to the Des Moines Register, who asked each GOP Republican Candidate the same question: What do you want to be remembered for after you leave the Presidency? Hunters response was the shortest answer and the best one of the lot. He said, I would like to see a country where the day I walk out of the White House, after a couple of terms, the American people are more independent of government than the day that I walked in.
14. Sovereignty reigns supreme with Hunter. This article from Congressional Quarterly in July 2007 shows us what Hunter thought about President Bushs Security and Prosperity Partnership with Mexico and Canada and the associated toll road superhighway that Slick Rick Perry was trying to build. As excerpted:
Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, who has spent much of his Republican presidential campaign thus far stumping to security-conscious conservatives, threw his constituency a bone July 24.
As House consideration of the Transportation, Housing and Urban Development spending bill (HR 3074) ground to a close around midnight, Hunter added language that would partially block funding for a White House-led group the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, in which the United States, Mexico and Canada participate.
Sounds like bland stuff, except that some conservatives believe the group is secretly pushing for the construction of a "NAFTA superhighway" from Canada to Mexico, via a private toll road planned across Texas.
"Its time, before they facilitate this multimodal operation, for the administration to consult Congress," Hunter said, adding that he is concerned about national security risks. Some conservatives, such as political activist Phyllis Schlafly, see such a cross-border highway as the first step to establishing a mini-European Union for North America.
The White House-led group could not be reached for comment, but its Web site dismisses as myth the idea that it has plans for a NAFTA superhighway or that its working toward an economic merger of the three countries.
The Whitehouse slammed Hunter for cutting off the funds, calling his allegations of untoward schemes for a NAFTA superhighway and such a myth. To which Hunter replied wryly, then they have nothing to worry about then, do they?
15. Duncan Hunter has always stood firmly on the side of recognizing and celebrating Americas Christian heritage. While others cower in the face of Political Correctness, Hunter is unapologetic in his stances, whether it is abortion, displaying the 10 Commandments on public property, or, in this case, prayer in schools. A 1984 article (excerpted) from the San Diego Union Tribune, titled School Prayer Proposal Pushed by Hunter in House sheds some light on the subject:
With the fate of President Reagans proposal for school prayers in doubt, a San Diego area congressman is doing his best to get the idea moving in the House of Representatives.
Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Coronado, belongs to an informal group of like-thinking House members who have dubbed themselves the Conservative Opportunity Society.
When the 60 or so members met Feb. 29, they turned at Hunters instigation to the emotional, controversial and highly topical issue of prayer in public schools.
Hunter proposed that a bipartisan group conduct an all-night discussion of school prayer on the floor of the House.
What resulted was the participation of 51 Republicans and 12 Democrats in the longest "special order" on a single issue in the history of the House. A special order is time reserved for discussing an issue after the regular business of the day is concluded.
But many senators seemed unimpressed. Yesterday, the Senate rejected a proposed constitutional amendment that would permit silent meditation in public schools, a compromise proposal that fell well short of the spoken prayer advocated by Reagan and Hunter.
"The Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution with the firm belief in a Supreme Being. I think it is ironic that we in Congress start each day with a prayer, but public school children are denied the same right," he says.
Hunters efforts didnt go unnoticed at the White House.
A few hours after the talkathon ended, Hunter received a call from President Reagan, who is the most prominent advocate of the school prayer amendment. Reagan said he had received a number of calls from supporters of the amendment, saying they had seen the House proceedings on television.
16. Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party! The New Hampshire Republican primary debate in 2007 had this little exchange which hit the nail on the head and coined a new wing of the GOP:
Wolf Blitzer: Congressman Hunter, I want you to weigh in. Arnold Schwarzenegger, your governor in California, has become very popular out there by bringing in independents and moderates and trying to forge a consensus among Republicans and Democrats in your state. Shouldnt the GOP nationally be following that Arnold Schwarzenegger example in California?
Hunter: No! And let me just say, I look at Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani, my good friend John McCain. Governor Romney joined with Bill Clinton for the 1994 gun ban, when I was fighting that. Mayor Giuliani stood with him at the Whitehouse for that. Governor Romney has passed what I consider to be a major step toward socialism with respect to his mandated health care bill. John McCain is standing strong with Ted Kennedy on this Kennedy-McCain-Bush border enforcement bill. I think the guy whos got the most influence right here with these three gentlemen is Ted Kennedy. And I think we need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party.
17. In 2007, a year before the Paulson/Bush/Pelosi house on fire crisis requiring a banking bailout, the State of California was pushing the feds for a sub prime mortgage bailout, and pushing hard. Schahrzad Berkland of the California Housing Forecast decided to write to Duncan Hunter to find out what his position was for his home states federal sub prime bailout request. Berkland, apparently a conservative, or at least a fiscally sane businessman, was happy with Hunters written response.
Hunter wrote, in part: I share your belief that it is not the role of government to step in when people have made an unwise business decision. The disclosure requirements imposed on lenders provide consumers with the information they need to decide on the best loan available to them. Rest assured that I will keep your thoughts in mind should this issue come before the House. Furthermore, we must promote personal responsibility not government dependence.
Hunter, of course, went on to vigorously and vocally oppose the Paulson/Bush/Pelosi crap sandwich the next year as well. Unlike Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, McCain, Obama, Romney, Pawlenty, Palin, Reid, Gingrich, and the rest of the usual suspects.
Chnace? Twice in one statement?
I see the typical DUmbass RINO responses...Do they really think we will fall for the “we need another media annointed candidate” BS???
We went with the “star power” of Lame McCain - the same dud that all the media whores (and many here who listen to them) came up with as their “best electable” squishy “moderate” candidate....a DUmocrat with an “R” next to his name.
When that didn’t work, they tried to push FLOP Thompson in order to clear out conservatives and make more room for FLIP Romney, Goober Huckerbee, and Juan McAmnesty. That “star power” didn’t rise very far, did it? Once mission was accomplished with all conservatives out of the running, Flop Thompson pulled out too leaving it between three PRO-AMNESTY RINOs.
I will always take the MOST CONSERVATIVE Republican candidate - never again for a RINO. If Hunter runs, then it would be him over anyone currently on the short list.
Eh, Rastamon, how goes it. Haven’t seen you for a coon’s age.
As much as I really want Duncan Hunter for President in 2012, I think Palin has a better chance. We haven’t yet had a female president, Palin fill the bill while being a genuine Conservative.
Paul Ryan is a the top of my list at the moment as well. Maybe Ryan/Demint or more probably Demint/Ryan. Hunter is great on the issues. However, he will have less name recognition now after his retirement and he will be four years older. Both of those two facts would hurt Duncan Hunters ability to win and losing in 2012 is not an option. For the sake of our country we have to win.
“I will always take the MOST CONSERVATIVE Republican candidate - never again for a RINO. If Hunter runs, then it would be him over anyone currently on the short list.”
If the GOP runs another squishy moderate like McCain, I won’t vote GOP whether a Palin or even Reagan is running with him.
I’ve had enough of this silly game of republicans pretending to be conservative. If they can’t follow their own platform, they need to keep losing.
No more Congressmen or Senators. No more.
The man has great principles but he campaigns as badly as Dole. He is not useful.
“As much as I really want Duncan Hunter for President in 2012, I think Palin has a better chance. We havent yet had a female president, Palin fill the bill while being a genuine Conservative.”
The media sidelined Duncan Hunter, but they’re going to tear Palin to shreds. By what they’ve done already, anyone should see that.
I’ve never understand the Hunter fans. He seems like a nice man but also something of an authoritarian and statist. His backers never mention, for example, that he voted for BOTH the prescription drugs boondogle and No Child Left Behind. His ranking from the National Taxpayers Union was also quite low.
How about this. No more wishy washy RINOs. We don’t need the “expertise” of another open borders governor, another global warming believing executive, another flip flopping chief, or another pandering Poobah.
WE NEED A REAGANITE. Period.
“The man has great principles but he campaigns as badly as Dole. He is not useful.”
More BS. Hunter had big crowds everywhere he went. The crowds were energized. Dole fell off the stage....remember that? But you keep it up, and insure we get just that, another Dole.
Dole campaigned badly because he had ZERO principles. Just like McCain, Romney, Pawlenty, Rudy, etc etc
No more affirmative action experiments.
I’ve been here....just have tried not to post for awhile. Tired of being pi$$ed off and responding to DUmbass newbies who have yet to learn anything since the last time around.
The same JACKASSES who say they want a Reagan but are willing to run a Romney if it means they get a (temporary) “win” with someone who always moves the ball for the other team.
I wish him nothing but the best. He’s a good man.
“His backers never mention, for example, that he voted for BOTH the prescription drugs boondogle and No Child Left Behind.”
Yes, he did. And he’s regretted not bucking Bush more...but then he was the only one bucking Bush in the GOP on several things....did you support Bush??? Or Ron Paul..the only one who didn’t support the GOP position on those issues???
Duncan Hunter’s conservative record is still better than any you can name, but then most people here could care less about that.
” Tired of being pi$$ed off and responding to DUmbass newbies who have yet to learn anything since the last time around.
The same JACKASSES who say they want a Reagan but are willing to run a Romney if it means they get a (temporary) win with someone who always moves the ball for the other team.”
Amen. Sadly, all the squishy R’s around here aren’t all newbies. They can be forgiven. Others just want to keep us on the same endless road.
Dole campaigned badly because he didn’t really want the job. Hunter campaigned also as if he really didn’t care if he got it or not. Campaigning was interesting to him but not terribly exciting.
We already have Romney. It’s His Turn and the Democrats, having their candidate already, will reregister and vote in the Republican primaries for Romney. Hunter cannot overcome that. It will take someone with the vision and energy of Ronald Reagan to beat the Republican Tradition. So far only Palin has shown any of that.
I don’t get you Pissant. You’re obviously intelligent, politically savvy, educated, but you’re drawn to one Quixote like cause after another. You might as well run Hunter and Keyes on the same ticket just for thematic effect. Hell, run them both on the Falcon Party ticket and go for perfection within a theme.
“Campaigning was interesting to him but not terribly exciting.”
One experienced the same feelings watching his campaign, it was interesting but not terribly exciting.
Sarah Palin. She is following Reagan’s playbook and is solid on principles. I don’t know that Republicans will vote for a woman when it comes to the Election same as Republicans generically won’t vote for a black man but Sarah Palin has shown more drive and more conservative vision than her rivals so far.
“Hunter campaigned also as if he really didnt care if he got it or not. Campaigning was interesting to him but not terribly exciting.
You sure know a lot about a guy you don’t like and likely NEVER paid any attention to in the first place.
You sound like you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Hunter’s problem with his campaign was that he did his job while he tried to campaign. And he was the ONLY candidate NOT to run for congress and the prez at the same time, like McCain does election cycle after election cycle.
Duncan Hunter is a man of honor and decency. Maybe you’re right, maybe someone like that can’t be president. Certainly not to the GOP faithful! They’d rather have a Sarah Palin, who no one can figure out exactly what the hell she means. With a Duncan Hunter, at least, we know where he stands.
Why don’t you see if we can get a new FB page for Duncan Hunter. I for one know that when he was running for President I wasn’t using it but I am on it now like crazy and forward lots of groups to friends.
“Sarah Palin. She is following Reagans playbook and is solid on principles. “
Oh, good grief. There are dozens of threads on FR with thousands of comments, arguing about what she ‘meant’....she’s as ‘clear’ as a river full of mud. But we’ve been told, ‘just wait’....she’ll ‘clarify’....
If we do Amnesty again we might as well simply award citizenship to everyone between the Rio Grande and the Colombian border. With 20 million new Democrat votes that will happen soon enough anyway and the United States will absorb and then be absorbed by Mexico.
“If we do Amnesty again we might as well simply award citizenship to everyone between the Rio Grande and the Colombian border. With 20 million new Democrat votes that will happen soon enough anyway and the United States will absorb and then be absorbed by Mexico.”
Please, convince Sarah Palin of that, and Romney, McCain, Huckabee and probably the rest of the so called candidates that the GOP seem to pick for us. Because every one of them is never going to fight amnesty.
I like his political positions, particularly on borders/immigration, but that doesn't mean he's a realistic candidate.
The charisma of margarine? One of the absolute BEST responses came from him during the debates where he REFUSED to apologize for America!
As for charisma, yeah, we can all see where charisma has gotten us.
Time for the grownups to be in charge!
I like Sarah Palin but I can’t see her toe to toe with Putin... yeah, she is tough but not Ranger tough.
Besides, after watching her now that she is on Fox, she says the same thing over and over, right on cue.
She is definitely an asset but I don’t think Presidential. JMHO
Gee I do believe some guy named Scott Brown just on in some New England state with that ole Mom and Pop approach.
Face it, technology can render the old RNC useless!
Authoritarian and statist??? Surely you are joking? The guy that wants to get rid of entire departments, who has fought the EPA his entire career, was the man standing between Clinton and his f’d up Crime bill as other republicans wilted, the guy who laid waste to Slick’s socialized medicine proposal, the guy who has valiently fought to cut every single benefit from illegal aliens - not to mention deport them, the guy who gets a fat ZERO rating from environmental groups, the guy with a perfect record on the 2nd amendment and property rights? That statist?
I agree with your analysis. I worked a little in 2008 trying to get Hunter on the Virginia primary ballot. We couldn’t even do that. He just never got traction in a crowded field. But let’s not waste him in a VP slot. Hunter for Secretary of Defense.
Love McCotter and Ryan, but you cannot elect a President because of sound bites on YouTube, besides it is the House that makes the laws, it would be nice to keep some people there don’t you think?
We live in very dangerous times, we need someone with stones!
In fact, pissant, you're sort of making him look foolish by insisting that he will or should run again. Had he gotten enough votes to make him more competative, then running again would be a more realistic possibility.
I'm not just spinning my wheels here...I live here! He has passed the gaunlet to his son. I have no doubt that Duncan D is headed for great things once he's a bit more politically seasoned.
Forget his experience, his expertise in trade and military, his stance on illegal immigration, the 2nd Amendment, abortion, freedom, etc. He should appear on Dancing with the Stars so people will be able to see his “charisma” and have some name recognition!
It would probably help somewhat if the primaries were closed as well.
Keyes was an Ambassador who has lost seven elections. Hunter won 14 of them, most of them convincingly. He was President of the American Security Council, he co-founded the Conservative Opportunity Society with Vin Webber and Newt, he helped write the Contract with America, he was Chairman of the House Armed Services committee as well as being ranking minority member, he’s a Vietnam Combat Veteran, he is a lawyer who ran his own business, he’s on the board of CPAC, he is THE recognized expert on our military systems, he was Reagan’s point man on SDI, he won the AZ and TX straw polls last time and tied in SC - despite being outspent 50 to 1, typically, and despite having a full time job unlike Huck, Fred, Mitt, Rudy, etc.
And on the issues, no one, not even Reagan, is as solid.
Why don’t you ask him if he’s going to run again. I did. Do you want to know his answer or do you prefer to pull things out of your ear?
Duncan Hunter would be a great President, but why doesn’t he run for the Governor of California? Or even against Boxer to become a U.S. Senator?
A term or two as a successful California governor or U.S. Senator could help launch him into the White House.
It’s VERY difficult for a US Representative to go directly into the Oval Office - in fact I’m not sure when the last time it happened.
I agree. I hope he does run. Being a governor would give him great experience.
He doesn’t need any more experience. He’s the right man for the POTUS today.
You still around PING?
LOL. Forget that the pencil neck commies in China and Russia and the turbaned gangs in Iran and SA would crap their pants if Hunter is elected.
You also tried to badger him into supporting a third party. You got no where with that.
We actually have events down here with San Diego monthly Republican meetings, Lincoln Day dinners, and Town Hall type meetings where both Hunters appear, along with other state and local political dignitaries. We get to attend small, pre-event, cocktail hours with these same politicians and their staff AND we get to speak with them in a relaxed, informal setting.
Quit trying to fool FReepers into thinking you know more than anyone else.
You are pulling stuff out of your ear, fella.
Do you want to know what he said about running again or not?
And I never once, EVER, mentioned or suggested a 3rd party candidacy to him.
WTF are you babbling about?
What an unkind post.
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