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Tom Coburn at Town Hall Defends Nancy Pelosi as a "Good Person"; Takes Shots at Fox News - Audio
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | April 6, 2010 | Brian

Posted on 04/06/2010 1:00:41 PM PDT by Federalist Patriot

Here are several audio clips from GOP Sen. Tom Coburn's Q&A with constituents about the new ObamaCare Law, where Coburn went out of his way to defend Nancy Pelosi and the intent of Democrats. He also took shots at Fox News several times:

Coburn Says Use of IRS to Enforce ObamaCare Not Intended to Put People in Jail. . .

Coburn Says Nancy Pelosi is a "Good Person"; Warns Audience Not to be "Biased by Fox News" . . .

Coburn Urges to Stay Informed from Many Sources . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomslighthouse.com ...


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KEYWORDS: coburn; foxnews; pelosi
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1 posted on 04/06/2010 1:00:41 PM PDT by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

Are there any conservatives left in Californication??


2 posted on 04/06/2010 1:01:37 PM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Federalist Patriot

I’m pretty surprised at this from Coburn, one of my favorite members of all of Congress.


3 posted on 04/06/2010 1:02:21 PM PDT by jpl
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To: Federalist Patriot

Just shows to go ya’ that the “Ruling Class” will always defend their own.


4 posted on 04/06/2010 1:02:59 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

It would appear that copies of the boudoir pictures of a naked Coburn cavorting with little midgets in cocoa butter have been sent from Rahm Emanuel’s office to Nazi Pelosi.


5 posted on 04/06/2010 1:04:35 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama is doing to America what Roman Polanski did to his victim, but without lube.)
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To: jpl
my favorite members of all of Congress.

Absolutely...I still trust him & will give him the benefit of the doubt here.

6 posted on 04/06/2010 1:05:41 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Dear Tom — Buhbye


7 posted on 04/06/2010 1:08:05 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Federalist Patriot
The real story here isn’t Coburn calling Pelosi “nice.” It’s his assertion that a woman on FNC who said “they can put us in prison” for not obtaining gov’t-approved health insurance under Obamacare is misinformed. She’s not, obviously. So either Coburn doesn’t know the contents of the bill or he’s lying about its contents.
8 posted on 04/06/2010 1:08:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Federalist Patriot

Another house RINO. Boy...what a surprise. Apparently Coburn isn’t concerned about the loss of his credibility.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 1:10:41 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: GeronL

They’ll tell you that the state is loaded with conservatives...

... but never explain why almost 2/3 of their congressional delegation is a bunch of evil Marxist Donks...

...and why members of the 1/3 minority will defend the evil Marxist Donk tyrants.


10 posted on 04/06/2010 1:12:10 PM PDT by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: Federalist Patriot

But Pelosi is not a good person. Doesn’t matter how many times that guy repeats the mantra, Nancy will never be good.


11 posted on 04/06/2010 1:17:42 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Federalist Patriot

I would say that Coburn’s defintion of a “good person” and mine are two very different things.


12 posted on 04/06/2010 1:20:26 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Tom Coburn is exactly correct. Most liberals are good are good hearted and well intentioned. Likewise most of those who supported the Bolshevik revolution were good hearted and well intentioned.

We make a mistake in attacking people’s character and motives. Our strength is in the facts. The fact is that many well intentioned people are going to hell.

The fact is that good intentions rarely result in good results. The law of unintended consequences rules.

Example from our side. Some freepers support a big government approach to immigration that would give the gubmint the power to tell private employers who they can and cannot hire. They think they have good intentions.

They don’t see that government will not use that new power against illegal immigrants. Gubmint will use that new power against those on a DHS hate-list given to it by the Southern Poverty Law Center.


13 posted on 04/06/2010 1:20:48 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Federalist Patriot

“Coburn Urges to Stay Informed from Many Sources . . .”

In other word, be sure to take lies into consideration before forming your opinions.

Whatever moron.


14 posted on 04/06/2010 1:24:38 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Federalist Patriot
At one point Palin described Obama as "a very nice man,"…

Shall Mrs Palin be put in stocks and whipped?

15 posted on 04/06/2010 1:29:08 PM PDT by jla (Obama & Co. vs. Jefferson & Madison - my money's on the latter)
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To: GeronL

He represents Oklahoma...


16 posted on 04/06/2010 1:29:22 PM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Coburn Says Use of IRS to Enforce ObamaCare Not Intended to Put People in Jail. . .

Operative word here is *intended*.

It can, and will wind up doing so, -but that is not its "intention".

Coburn just morphed into Robert Gibbs.

Absolutely pathetic.

17 posted on 04/06/2010 1:29:44 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: GeronL

“Are there any conservatives left in Californication??”

Well, I believe there is a rumor that Free Republic
is based in Fresno and then there is me up here in
rural NorCal so , yes, there are “conservatives left
in Californication”.

As a point of fact, if you looked at an electoral map
of CALIFORNIA you would learn that there is a similarity
between the Golden State and the nation. The coastal
area which contains the majority of population is
very blue while the interior area including the
great Central Valley and the Sierra Nevadas is very
red. Since you now know, it sure be nice if you didn’t
paint us with a broad brush.


18 posted on 04/06/2010 1:31:35 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Somebody's been hitting the bloo-koolaid, hard:


Democrats,Obama,DNC,blue kool aid,kool aid,blue
19 posted on 04/06/2010 1:32:55 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Federalist Patriot

ONE OF THE PEOPLE PLANTED INSIDE THE REPUBLICANS TO KEEP UP WITH STRATEGIES? OOPPSS! Sorry for the caps.

If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck .... it is a duck.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.


20 posted on 04/06/2010 1:33:48 PM PDT by Countyline (God loves you ... He wants you to love Him back; to learn of Him and obey His commands.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Wonder what it takes for him to consider a person ... not good?

He must be blind, deaf, and not informed.

MO


21 posted on 04/06/2010 1:35:41 PM PDT by Countyline (God loves you ... He wants you to love Him back; to learn of Him and obey His commands.)
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To: PhiKapMom

have you seen this?


22 posted on 04/06/2010 1:36:55 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: spintreebob
Thank you, for a post of clarity. Cogent points, and true.

I agree. Unfortunately most people going to hell have a notion it isn't so, God is love, there is no hell, and they need do nothing, cause it is what they think.

God help the lost, in Jesus name. amen.

23 posted on 04/06/2010 1:40:29 PM PDT by Countyline (God loves you ... He wants you to love Him back; to learn of Him and obey His commands.)
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To: Arm_Bears
Just shows to go ya’ that the “Ruling Class” will always defend their own.

I can't seem to recall a Democrat ever supporting Dennis Hastert or Newt Gingrich like this. The Red Queen must have some dirt on Tom.

24 posted on 04/06/2010 1:46:13 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Federalist Patriot

What must be in Coburn’s FBI file?


25 posted on 04/06/2010 1:48:31 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Uh oh!
Somebody is blackmailing Tom........


26 posted on 04/06/2010 1:50:07 PM PDT by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: Charles Martel

Point well-taken.

Allow me to modify my initial observation—Republicans in the “Ruling Class” will always defend a Democrat that is under fire.


27 posted on 04/06/2010 1:50:54 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
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To: Federalist Patriot
Coburn Says Use of IRS to Enforce ObamaCare Not Intended to Put People in Jail. . .

It should be a wonderful consolation to those in jail or threatened with jail time that the government didn't really mean it.

28 posted on 04/06/2010 2:18:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: Federalist Patriot

I liked Tom Coburn. Tom Coburn WAS one of the few in Congress that I had any respect for. Not anymore.... the man is a complete fool.

I do not give a hoot what he ever says or does again, about anything, he’s toast with me.

I am really learning to hate politics...... and ALL of these two faced bastards.


29 posted on 04/06/2010 2:21:24 PM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Can you spell RINO?

Sure. C O B U R N.

Look under RINO in the dictionary and you’ll find Coburn’s photo.

The RINOs are more afraid of the Tea Party than of the Democrat Party.

Sad day for Conservatives in the Republican Party.


30 posted on 04/06/2010 2:29:38 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: Federalist Patriot; PhiKapMom

What’s up with “Freedom’s Lighthouse?” Why is he gunning for Coburn?


31 posted on 04/06/2010 2:32:26 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: wilco200
I'm in shock after listening to this. Gee, I wonder if Al Franken, Harry Reid, Barney Frank or even the President of Iran are all “Nice” people according to Coburn.

He knocks Fox for being biased and then says he reads two newspapers for balance....The New York Times and The Washington Post (and sometimes the Wall St Journal).

This really speaks volumes for why our Country finds itself in it's current crisis.

If this is supposed to be one of our brightest, most Conservative Republicans, we have no chance.

32 posted on 04/06/2010 2:33:06 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: jpl

He will regret those words when things start collapsing around the rats. The GOP needs to decide which side of history they want to be on.


33 posted on 04/06/2010 2:33:51 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Federalist Patriot

I’m sure that in some alternate reality she might be. Not in this one.


34 posted on 04/06/2010 2:35:42 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Federalist Patriot

I guess by nice Coburn means Pelosi knows how to use her company manners and not spit or scratch in public. And smiling for the camera while advocating the murder of babies in the womb, yeah thats real nice too.


35 posted on 04/06/2010 2:55:03 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: Federalist Patriot

They have something on him. When does his self-imposed term limit reach its limit?


36 posted on 04/06/2010 2:55:50 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Federalist Patriot

We then have no choice but to put the Coburn critter on the “toast” list.

If he got anywhere near that sub-slime b*****, I no longer consider him human.


37 posted on 04/06/2010 3:03:07 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: spintreebob

“Most liberals are good are good hearted and well intentioned.”

I disagree. Most that I’ve met are filled with hate and bitterness. They are envious of those better off, and condescending to those who are not.

They use government as an excuse for their own sins. They want government to care for the poor, so that they do not have to. They want government schools because they don’t want to educate their own kids - assuming they didn’t abort them first.

“19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.” - Romans 1

The Apostle Paul met some of the same liberals I have...


38 posted on 04/06/2010 3:03:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: jersey117

Someone has been in the Senate too long.

Talking down to the “dummies” (that would be non-liberals) who don’t see the vision of the annointed properly like a freakin’ school marm. The crowd should have booed his nasty, disrespectful self off the stage! Who listens to whom? The elected leader is stuck in gaga land in the Senate and knows nothing outside of his little circle; the peole he’s supposed to represent live life in the State.

I am not surprised to hear him say he reads two newspapers a day; The New York Times and The Washington Post, as if this makes him well informed. Then realizing those are not ‘fair and balanced’ sources to anyone except a Rino in the Senate, he drops in “sometimes the Wall Street Journal.” What an ass. Why did not they boo him when he talked down to them? Who does he think he is!!!!


39 posted on 04/06/2010 3:16:09 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Mr Rogers

I’ve known a lot of liberals over the years. I’ve known and worked closely with literally hundreds of Alinsky organizers and thousands of Alinsky activiist volunteers.

They are no more filled with hate and bitterness than conservatives ... or non-political. I’ve known some very hateful conservtives ... and hateful moderates too. I agree that hateful is not “good hearted”.

You say they want government to care for the poor, so that htye do not have to. My experience is that some (but not all) liberals are sincere in their mis-guided desire to have the government play santaclaus. When they take employment as teachers, social workers, religous workers, etc they are truly sincere in their motivation to help people.

This discussion started with Coburn’s comment on Pelosi. Frankly, I don’t know Pelosi and can’t say if she is good hearted or not. But I do know that many liberals are truly sincere ... sincere but mis-guided.


40 posted on 04/06/2010 5:12:53 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

It wasn’t long ago that FReepers were telling us how conservative Tom Coburn was. Oh well . . .


41 posted on 04/06/2010 5:13:55 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: spintreebob
But I do know that many liberals are truly sincere ... sincere but mis-guided.

The regimes in the Soviet Union, Communist China, Cambodia and Germany were all sincere as are the current regimes in Iran, Syria, Libya etc. Sincere isn't a get out of the gulag free card.

42 posted on 04/06/2010 5:17:08 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: spintreebob

I have only known a small number of liberals, but I’ve known them really, really well and personally.

And IMO they are not sincere, nor are they good hearted. Is it sincere and goodhearted to think that abortion is a good thing? Just for example.

I find them to be angry, ignorant, illiberal, intolerant, and mentally unhinged. They believe lies and untruths. Just because they very passionately believe leftist crap doesn’t make them “sincere”, and just because they claim “it’s good for people” doesn’t make them good hearted.

So I take strong issue with your blanket statement.

I used to be a hardcore leftist myself, btw.


43 posted on 04/06/2010 5:21:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: ChrisInAR; All

How can anyone who supports Nancy be trusted....?

Lets hope some voters let him know that he has fallen off the tower.


44 posted on 04/06/2010 5:24:05 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Rational Thought

Yikes! He said he reads (only) those two for balance?

I would read either of them only if I had eaten something bad and needed an emetic.


45 posted on 04/06/2010 5:25:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Considering that Pelosi has spent three years attempting to do to my country what Hitler failed to do, I don’t care if she’s nice to her dog (if any dog would have her). She is not a good person. Her goals are evil, and her methods are evil. Socialism must be stopped, and she’s the leader of the drive toward socialism.


46 posted on 04/06/2010 6:23:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Federalist Patriot

Nice of you to make sure this is out of context in what Dr. Tom was saying.

It was so earth shattering our local media didn’t even cover the event.

Anyone who cannot take what some Fox News people say and dispute it are not thinking. Dr. Coburn has NEVER been about personally attacking anyone. You go after someone’s agenda not after the person themselves. What a novel idea — have the debate on issues not personalities. He is also a stickler for wshat the law says not what some people want it to say.

Paul Ryan and Tom Coburn probably know the current Obamacare law better then anyone else in America because they have read it.

What’s your beef with Coburn — he doesn’t want to trash someone personally and he believes that you should stay informed from a bunch of sources instead of just Fox News?

Shame on Dr. Coburn for wanting us top think!


47 posted on 04/06/2010 6:25:50 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Halgr

BS — he doesn’t support her agenda but he won’t attack her personally — this is the problem on here with too many people who see something and make it into something it is not.


48 posted on 04/06/2010 6:27:15 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: La Enchiladita; xsmommy

Good question. None of our media covered it but this group did and took it out of context. Dr. Coburn is trying to lower the rhetoric of attacking members of Congress personally and instead go after their agenda and it gets turned around he supports Pelosi.

Then we have the deal with Fox News — I have been complaining about Fox News for years and mistakes they make all the time and why when they report, I get a second source before posting. Anyone who relies on Fox News 100% for their news isn’t thinking and I agree with Dr. Coburn.


49 posted on 04/06/2010 6:30:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Federalist Patriot

I just listened to Dr. Coburn’s full comments and he said that he is 180 degrees opposed to Nancy Pelosi but she is a nice lady. That means personally but he is 180 degrees opposed to her agenda.

This was all taken out of context including Fox News comment which he explained and how they had gotten it wrong but he did go on to explain the intent of IRS which he does not agree with.

Shame on Dr. Coburn for wanting people to think instead of be lemmings to Fox News. That is what I figured his take was and you put up headlines and excerpt to make him look bad. WHY?

After watching the full video, this is my last comment on the subject because nothing can be done when someone uses excerpts to further their own agenda for whatever reason.


50 posted on 04/06/2010 6:43:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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