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Great Moments in Birthism: Orly's First Hearing
You Tube, court transcript ^ | 18 April 2010 | Antibirther & Orly Taitz

Posted on 04/23/2010 4:32:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers

The following YouTube animation is from the transcript of Orly Taitz's presentation in Brockhausen v. Andrade.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AntiBirther#p/u/1/ppk7lgUD3-Q

The transcript can be found here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18284002/BROCKHAUSEN-v-ANDRADE-Transcript-of-Proceedings-Pleas-to-Jurisdiction-Hearing-12209

You can find the case discussed on FreeRepublic here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170430/posts


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; orly; orlytaitz; taitz
Why post this?

Because it shows the level of legal 'expertise' that is wasting money and time from electing conservative candidates. I know there are many who believe that "natural born citizen" makes Obama ineligible because either A) his father wasn't a US citizen, or B) he was born in Kenya.

But you cannot win in court unless you think things thru PRIOR to getting there. Questions like standing and jurisdiction are part and parcel of a lawsuit, and going about it wrong wastes time and money - while exposing conservatives to liberal ridicule.

Hopefully folks will listen, and understand why volume of lawsuits is a poor substitute for a thoughtful lawsuit.

1 posted on 04/23/2010 4:32:01 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

YouTube link - it didn’t work as a source for posting:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AntiBirther#p/u/1/ppk7lgUD3-Q


2 posted on 04/23/2010 4:33:17 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

“DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office” http://bit.ly/dDgP3a All 3 branches of Fed. Gov. know

The issue is real and will never go away until answered.


3 posted on 04/23/2010 4:34:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Gee! I have an interesting idea!

Obama should immediately release all of the best evidence that would prove or disprove that he is a natural born citizen:

** original long form birth certificate
** Passports
** college applications, and scholarship applications
** selective service records
** social security numbers used in his lifetime
** a record of name changes
** record of his repatriation to the U.S.
** adoption records
** school records and citizenship claimed on those records

An honest man would be **HONORED** to prove that he was a natural born citizen. He would promptly release all of the very best and certifiable evidence.

A guilty fraud ties the issue up in court, and misuses Department of Justice resources and U.S. attorney time to prevent discovery.

By the way....Obama used Department of Justice resources and U.S. attorneys at a time when plots were being laid to KILL soldiers on the base and in recruitment centers, and blow planes out of the sky. If Obama is playing a political dirty trick, the American people will not be amused.

4 posted on 04/23/2010 4:54:18 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Mr Rogers
By the way...I am disgusted with Rush and the rest of the so-called “conservative” yappers for ignoring this important constitutional issue.

Rush wrote today in the Wall Street Journal, “I insist that the temporary inhabitants of high political office comply with the Constitution,...”

WHAT A PHONY!!!!

5 posted on 04/23/2010 4:58:49 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

I support Arizona’s new law, and wish it called for ALL birth, travel and educational records to be made public by any candidate. However, that wouldn’t float, since it would add to the Constitution.

I agree that any honorable man would release it without hesitation or qualm.


6 posted on 04/23/2010 5:00:47 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: wintertime

Rush is actually one of the few that have teased the issue up now and then.

We all know there is a REASON why the talk show guys and FOx treat it as radioactive.

They have been warned.

But that will shift.


7 posted on 04/23/2010 5:02:19 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Mr Rogers

The legal prowess of Orly Taitz is just ... well, unequaled.


8 posted on 04/23/2010 5:09:14 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Mr Rogers
Has this been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNjRthxvSFg&feature=player_embedded

Every birther thread summed up into an 8 minute dialogue.

9 posted on 04/23/2010 5:13:08 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Mr Rogers

Good man. Thoughtful post and correct. These fellows are barking up the wrong tree, wasting valuable energy better spent electing conservatives, and they’ve given the Left some life by protecting Obama with looney rightwing coverage.

You’re not stupid at all.


10 posted on 04/23/2010 6:22:03 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: wintertime

Yes, they are phonies. I include Bill O’Reily and Glenn Beck in this with Limbaugh and some others. I stopped watching them and reading their stuff when they began to ridicule folks who are asking legitimate questions.

Perhaps the phony debate between the libs and the conservatives is to keep up from seeing and hearing what is really going on.


11 posted on 04/23/2010 7:02:29 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Mr Rogers

Obama’s father was never a US Citizen, and as such, Obama II is not a Natural Born Citizen, and is not qualified. We have gone thru this...are you still saying that he is?????
Both parents must be US Citizens, and he needs to be born in the US to be Natural Born. He was not, so is not.
Everything else discussed, are curiosities. The one fact, not hidden is that his father is not a US Citizen.
Discussion over. He is a usurper, and needs to be removed, not impeached, from office.


12 posted on 04/23/2010 9:27:44 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

“Both parents must be US Citizens, and he needs to be born in the US to be Natural Born.”

No, that is not the law. Nor is that what 50 states, voters and Congress believe, and it doesn’t seem to be what any court to date believes...

You cannot define your terms on your own and expect anyone else to obey your interpretation.


13 posted on 04/23/2010 9:31:05 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

http://www.breitbart.tv/the-b-cast-interview-was-obama-a-committed-marxist-in-college/


14 posted on 04/23/2010 9:50:51 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Mr Rogers

We have gone thru this before. The constitution states that the POTUS must be NBC. Obama is not.


15 posted on 04/23/2010 10:07:52 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

The Constitution does not define NBC. Therefor, it cannot be your authority for saying Obama is not a natural born citizen.


16 posted on 04/23/2010 10:13:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

We have gone thru this before....many, many, times.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/Citizenship-Terms-Used-in-the-US-Constitution-The-5-Terms-Defined-Some-Legal-Reference-to-Same


17 posted on 04/23/2010 10:23:20 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Texas Fossil

Eric Holder’s Department of Justice continues to deploy taxpayer funded attorneys around the country to file dismissals on behalf of Obama, denying all American citizens access to the courts as a peaceful remedy, which only fuels the fire of discontent and the questions about Obama persist.

Michelle Obama states that Kenya is Barack’s “home country.” She knows, after twenty years with Barack. The Ambassador or Kenya has confirmed the same His family friends all know it, and are in fact quite proud of the fact that Americans had no hesitation in electing a “black man from Kenya” as President of the United States.


18 posted on 04/23/2010 10:35:13 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Mr Rogers

The video is hilarious, since it humorously dramatizes, from an actual court transcript, how Taitz simply flies by the seat of her pants, ignoring all established rules, law, logic and reason — and so do these threads, since most who comment totally ignore the subject of the post but instead launch into the same tired pseudo-evidence endlessly listed on every thread, while villainizing the same justice system that uses rules, law, logic and reason to form its opinions.

It’s the childish equivalent of “nah, nah, nah — I can’t hear you” while sticking one’s fingers in ears.


19 posted on 04/24/2010 3:11:42 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Mr Rogers
"The Constitution does not define NBC. Therefor, it cannot be your authority for saying Obama is not a natural born citizen."

Look to the writing of the founding fathers. It is clear that the definition of 'natural-born citizen' was well understood by those present at the ratification of our Constitution. Have you seen the recent discovery of writings by David Ramsey?

20 posted on 04/24/2010 3:37:32 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Mr Rogers

Correction to spelling: David Ramsay


21 posted on 04/24/2010 3:43:25 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: cycle of discernment
But that will shift.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So? When? Personally, I don't think they will.

Obama has really won a big one. He has succeeded in sowing distrust about the integrity of the so-called “conservative” media.

I was reading that Comcast will be starting a conservative oriented cable channel. Hopefully, Fox and Clear Channel will soon be getting some **honest** competition in the form of genuinely conservative reporting.

22 posted on 04/24/2010 6:08:45 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: zardozzed

I belive you are incorrect. Please post a link where this is specifically stated. I have read Wong Kim Ark, and will be surprised if I see the area Emphasized in your post.


25 posted on 04/26/2010 1:26:47 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: zardozzed

Let me help you out:
Held: In a 6-2 decision, the Court held that under the Fourteenth Amendment, a child born in the United States of parents of foreign descent who, at the time of the child’s birth are subjects of a foreign power but who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying on business in the United States, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under a foreign power, and are not members of foreign forces in hostile occupation of United States territory, becomes a citizen of the United States at the time of birth.

Wong Kim Ark was a citizen, not a natural born citizen.


26 posted on 04/26/2010 1:29:33 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: zardozzed

What part of “Please provide a link” don’t you understand. I read Wong Kim Ark, and saw no such wording.
Thanks you...


28 posted on 04/26/2010 4:10:52 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: zardozzed

I just read Fullers Opinionl, and Grays Dissent. I read the final opinion by Fuller, and in no place does it say natural born status was given to Wong Kim Ark, simply citizenship. Grays dissent was equally revealing, regardless, in the final decision, Wong Kim Ark was not granted natural born status...
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html


29 posted on 04/26/2010 4:36:04 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: zardozzed
Because they realize that it makes its adherents (and Obama opponents generally, by association) look like kooks.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Conservatives must STOP STOP STOP allowing the mainstream ( really Marxist) media to define and frame what is acceptable to be discussed!

I will give a non-birther example:

For nearly 2 decades Rush Limbaugh REFUSED to use the words “Marxist” or “communism”. Instead, if he wanted to be bold he would use the phrase “radical leftist”.

For all those years Rush **knew** we were dealing with Marxism and for **years** Rush refused to call them what they were. Only when Beck came along and proved it was safe enough to call the enemy what who and what it really is ( Marxist, communist, Marxism, communism) did Rush have the courage to finally start using the “M” and “C” words.

In other words Rush avoided calling the enemy by their true names because he was afraid of being laughed at by the mainstream media ( Marxist media). Rush allowed the mainstream media to define and frame what was allowed to be discussed.

Rush, Beck, OReilly, Hannity, Coulter, Medved and the other yappers have gonads the size of dust mites. They are either cowards or phonies and they are allowing the Marxist media to censor discussion of Obama’s eligibility because they are afraid that the Marxists will laugh at them.

What WEENIES!

30 posted on 04/26/2010 4:52:50 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?

A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

Even if Orly NEVER brings Obama to trial, she has almost single handly brought his ineligibility to world wide attention, caused him to spend MILLIONS on lawyers to keep his records hidden AND CAUSED THE MUZZIE TO SWEAT BULLETS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded


32 posted on 05/21/2010 10:54:00 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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